Merged Boston Marathon CTs

[eppursimuove]

About the Saudi national, that the first lady may have visited in the hospital. And his alleged visits to the White House.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/201...&utm_medium=story&utm_campaign=Share Buttons#

The First Lady visited many victims at that hospital, not just the Saudi. It is not unusual to visit the White House, millions of people did every year(until that recently changed). Here is an article debunking this particular woo.

http://news.yahoo.com/glenn-beck-conspiracy-theory-whats-evidence-202312996.html

^Debunks the No Fly List/212 3B etc.
The Homeland Security Secretary replied that the Saudi in question had not been on a watch list prior to the bombings and was never really a person of interest in the case.

“Because he was being interviewed, he was at that point put on a watch list,” Napolitano added. “And then when it was quickly determined he had nothing to do with the bombing, the watch listing status was removed.”

If you read the article you will see that different persons with the same name as the "Saudi national" had visited the White House in tour groups and such. What I think is funny is how CT:s jump to conclusions and put stuff together in their often twisted minds. IF some shady person would visit the White House for some shady business, then would he visit that way and leave traces in such lists? I mean, come on. The fictitious "they" are not stupid, are "they"?

 

[Scotty Ladouche]

If you read the article you will see that different persons with the same name as the "Saudi national" had visited the White House in tour groups and such. What I think is funny is how CT:s jump to conclusions and put stuff together in their often twisted minds. IF some shady person would visit the White House for some shady business, then would he visit that way and leave traces in such lists? I mean, come on. The fictitious "they" are not stupid, are "they"?

Indeed, if I were visiting the White House as part of a 'false flag black op', I would definitely sign the guest book.

 

[Biscuit]

Until you see actual trauma, shock and death in real life, you can have no opinion.

I agree. The CT yahoos have never seen it. I have. It is not pretty. It is not like what the basement dwellers think it is like based on their Hollywood expectations.

I have seen people in shock from accidental injury, most memorably a car accident. It was very surreal.

Some comments by CTsers on cluesforum(hate to repeat my hate for that place)are evil,photos of the dead young woman being ridiculed.
You should be able to have such sites shut down.

Freedom of speech its a fickle mistress. They would probably like to see us "shills" shut down as well.

HA! Winner!

Are you saying I "nailed" it?

 

[abaddon]

I have seen people in shock from accidental injury, most memorably a car accident. It was very surreal.

Indeed it is. You know what sticks most in my memory? Not the horrendous injuries, not the dying chap, it's the smell. The smell of blood and death. And it really does have a smell, for those who thankfully have not had that unhappy experience.

 

[Biscuit]

Scotty Ladouche?

When two guys with earplugs walk across a street from where, in several seconds, a bomb will explode your explanation withers and dies.
I'll believe a vet cite/site thank you very much.

Where is your evidence for this timeline of the events?

 

[squealpiggy]

I have seen people in shock from accidental injury, most memorably a car accident. It was very surreal.

Friend of mine used to be an EMT and told me about this one guy got crushed between a couple of cars. His legs were like jelly, he was fine, he was joking and flirting with the medics, asking for a smoke.

His legs were a mess though.

 

[derchin]

Here's a entire article on this so called conspiracy:

17 Unanswered Questions About The Boston Marathon Bombing The Media Is Afraid To Ask

http://endoftheamericandream.com/ar...-the-media-is-afraid-to-ask#comment-875260719

 

[Biscuit]

Friend of mine used to be an EMT and told me about this one guy got crushed between a couple of cars. His legs were like jelly, he was fine, he was joking and flirting with the medics, asking for a smoke.

His legs were a mess though.

When I was a kid (5 or 6) my best friend got his arm caught in our front door, a giant wood door that weighed a ton. Snapped his forearm in 2. Just muscle holding it together. He said he would walk home and get a band-aid. Fortunately my older sister showed up and after she puked was able to get him help. He never once cried, just held his arm to his body and kept insisting on walking home to get that band-aid.

 

[freud]

I'm not sure if it's been posted in this thread, but I stumbled across this sad bit of comedy this morning. The CTs are fancying themselves as quite the sleuths after discovering this bombshell of a clue where the Boston police commissioner made a "huge slip-up" and used the term "actors" to describe the Tsarnaev brothers. Listen as Youtuber DAHBOO77 passionately attacks the official story: "I think YOU'RE an actor too, dude!"



So much conviction, so little substance.

actor [ak-ter]
noun
1.
a person who acts in stage plays, motion pictures, television broadcasts, etc.
2.
a person who does something; participant.

 

[Regnad Kcin]

With regard to CTs in general, I don't know whether to weep with aching empathy that so many of my fellow species parade their Guinness Record-qualifying degree of ignorance and stupidity, the footfalls of which must set off Richter-scale false alarms at the National Earthquake Information Center, or delight in the soul-lifting, nasal passage-clearing rapture such flat-tired clown car displays seem almost eager to provoke.

Either way, were I a professional educator, I'd be more than a little embarrassed.

 

[Biscuit]

Here's a entire article on this so called conspiracy:

17 Unanswered Questions About The Boston Marathon Bombing The Media Is Afraid To Ask

http://endoftheamericandream.com/ar...-the-media-is-afraid-to-ask#comment-875260719

#1 - Why is he the only witness to this? I think he is confusing the reports of a controlled detonation of a 3rd device an hour or so after the first two went off.

Alastair Stevenson is a veteran marathon runner who has competed in dozens of marathons around the world, including the London Marathon. He’s very familiar with the security typically found at marathons, and he immediately noticed something odd about the Boston marathon security.

No he isn't as he has never participated in the security of a marathon.

#2 - Why did authorities deny that a bomb squad drill was being held?

I would guess because there was not a bomb squad drill being held.

#3 According to The Mirror, the FBI is reportedly “hunting” a 12-strong terrorist “sleeper cell” that Tamerlan and Dzhokhar Tsarnaev were allegedly a part of…

First I have heard of this and the mirror has one anonymous source. Could be a case of over active imagination on the sources part. As I understand it the special interrogators are a group set up after the end of water boarding specifically trained to interrogate terrorists. Maybe they speculated about a cell but the suspect is saying they acted alone. Perhaps the investigation is trying to not spook any potential cell members?

#4 - Probably not but I am not sure what that proves.

#5 Debka is reporting...

Yea I can write an article with wild assertions and provide zero evidence too.

#6 - Seems like a good lead. I am sure the FBI is looking into all of it.

#7 - another focus of the investigation.

#8 - It's probably to early to determine the extent of their contacts.

#9 Did Tamerlan Tsarnaev post a video on YouTube last summer...

I don't know why don't you check? All of these hypothetical "Did they" questions are largely pointless and don't indicate any cover up.

#10 Why aren’t we being told that the “pressure cooker bombs” used in the Boston Marathon attacks are very similar to the kind of pressure cooker bombs that are commonly used in the Middle East?…

I have actually heard this being reported almost from the first day. So we are being told this.

#11 - Because he is no longer a suspect and being deported on immigration violations.

#12 - Not relevant.

#13 - Terrorism is not a genetic trait.

#14 - Was the meeting scheduled before or after the bombings took place?

#15 - As the link says, "to discuss syria." The reports of chemical weapons likely triggered the meeting.

#16 - He was no longer a person of interest and she meet with lots of the victims IIRC.

#17 - Probably because the bombing was on patriots day and tax day. I believe they all couched these as "speculation."

 

[threadworm]

Here's a entire article on this so called conspiracy:

17 Unanswered Questions About The Boston Marathon Bombing The Media Is Afraid To Ask

http://endoftheamericandream.com/ar...-the-media-is-afraid-to-ask#comment-875260719

In what way isn't this website part of 'the media'? You know, the media not asking the questions it's asking?

 

[Bishop]

I'm amused/appalled by the commentators who say that this is not how somebody with their legs blown off acts. Based on all their years of experience with traumatic amputations, of course.

These are the same people who refused to believe grieving Newtown parents really were grieving because of their lack of non-stop sobbing and wailing.

And they're the same people saying that the lighting and shadows in such and such a photograph are all wrong, that an explosion of this precise kind should actually have done more damage to this spot and less to that spot, and that the police would never have tolerated all the civilians still staying at the site of the bombing. It's remarkable how they're all such experts in so many unrelated fields, isn't it? It's like if Doc Savage was a conspiracy theorist.

 

[Clayton Moore]

Yes, that is my name, gotta problem with it?

As I asked, and you avoided answering, did you read my first 10 posts in this thread?? I thoroughly debunk the theory that there was Craft operatives there.(and I feel as idiotic as you saying 'Çraft operative', because Craft does not have operatives. They offer training to LEO and military, they do not contract out security services)

The content of your posts is garbage. How do two quasi military guys with earplugs and huge backpacks walk across the street from where a bomb will go off just before it goes off?

Maybe the brothers noticed them and dumped their packs so they didn't become suicide by bombing dupes.


So a member who has hardly ever posted comes galloping in with stuff from another forum.

Old 18th April 2013, 02:24 PM #336
carlosy
New Blood

Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 16

I just found this on another forum.
A team of Craft International members were at the scene right before the explosion.
imagebam.com/image/85758d249697803

http://www.imagebam.com/image/85758d249697803

So with no JREF poster(that I noticed) even mentioning Craft
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=9168356&postcount=622
Old 21st April 2013, 12:06 AM #622 Scotty Ladouche Student Join Date: Apr 2013
dashes in to solve the mystery that hadn't even been commented on by a regular, let's say 500+ posts, JREF forum member.

Hi, first time poster, I registered so that I could share with you all who those mysterious SEAL/Craft/private security guys in all the CT websites are. Forgive me if it's already been posted, but my quick scan of the thread revealed nothing.

They are Massachusetts WMD-CST.What does this acronym mean? I'm glad you asked. Since I cannot post links until I have 15 posts, please copy the following article title into Google search and click on the first search result-

Guard’s WMD Civil Support Teams Can Respond Faster Than Other Federal Assets

In the above article, note how many public events these guys are on standby at, it's in the 100s every year, it is perfectly reasonable the Boston Marathon is one of them.

Also, note the mention of the ADVON Suburban, which perfectly matches the description and operation of the Suburban with communications gear that showed up at the finish line just after the explosions, which these guys then congregated around. The picture of the one gentleman with the radiation detector, and of others ripping the skirting off the bleachers so they could see if anything was hidden underneath them, would be exactly the behavior I would expect from members of such a unit. They also interacted with what is assumed to be the FBI bomb squad once they showed up on scene.

But don't take my word for it, in the following link (pop it in Google again), the website of the National Guard themselves say the Massachusetts CST team were there, and were assisted by the Rhode Island and New York teams.

National Guard's civil support teams respond to crisis nation-wide


Oh, and the baseball cap with the Punisher logo that one of them is wearing is available for purchase by anyone online. No one else is wearing anything with that logo (the logo on the one mans chest is not a Craft logo, no Craft logo has white writing like that underneath). It is not a part of the teams 'covert' gear, it is just a baseball cap this guy wore to work, and I guess he thinks it looks badass.


Despite this making, ummm, way more sense than them being private contractors there to do a (spooky voice) false flag , everywhere I have posted this so far in the CT realm, it has met with utter denial, and some advice that I should quit shilling for the Craft, or something like that. They also ask, "if they were there, how did they not stop this??" Well, there was no WMDs (the death toll would have been higher than 3), and the explosive material was in a container that, by design, is completely air tight.

These guys are pretty badass, I'm glad they are out there, and it's a shame the CT media is running their pictures through the mud. I can understand why no real media has covered them, they are cards to hold close to your chest, so to speak. We got a sneak peak behind the curtains of the Federal security apparatus, and these CT are absolutely clueless about it.

Oh, and the baseball cap with the Punisher logo that one of them is wearing is available for purchase by anyone online.

Last time I heard on duty military personnel don't wear unauthorized covers.

 

[Brass]

Just had a thought....how does contradictory evidence prove a conspiracy. If a conspiracy was truly at play here, wouldn't the authorities make sure the case was watertight and that nothing slipped out?

 

[phunk]

The content of your posts is garbage. How do two quasi military guys with earplugs and huge backpacks walk across the street from where a bomb will go off just before it goes off?

Evidence that they walked across the street right before the bomb went off?

 

[plague311]

The content of your posts is garbage. How do two quasi military guys with earplugs and huge backpacks walk across the street from where a bomb will go off just before it goes off?

Maybe the brothers noticed them and dumped their packs so they didn't become suicide by bombing dupes.

And then, just to show that they had no intention of being a suicide, one of them straps a suicide vest on. They are seen shooting at police officers and throwing explosives out of a moving vehicle, just after robbing a store, and shooting a police officer in the head? That'll show the world that they have no intention of being killed by bombers. Booya

So a member who has hardly ever posted comes galloping in with stuff from another forum.


http://www.imagebam.com/image/85758d249697803

So with no JREF poster(that I noticed) even mentioning Craft
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=9168356&postcount=622
Old 21st April 2013, 12:06 AM #622 Scotty Ladouche Student Join Date: Apr 2013

I think if you go to all the forums in the world, they will say that they despise new members. Especially ones that provide factual, documented information, instead of constant strawmen, red herring, and colorful displays of incredulity. /sarcasm

dashes in to solve the mystery that hadn't even been commented on by a regular, let's say 500+ posts, JREF forum member.

Relevance?

I would like it noted that I have been here since Dec of 2011, that's about a year and 5 months. I only have 878 posts. Why does the post count matter? You aren't credible if you have less than 500 posts?

Last time I heard on duty military personnel don't wear unauthorized covers.

I didn't know they were on duty military personnel.

 

[Scotty Ladouche]

Clayton Moore-

I explain the 'Çraft' men thoroughly in my posts, please read them and the links (though I suspect you are just here to spout off, not learn).

Yes, I joined this site specifically to share information that had not been posted here, one of the few places on the internet not under the influence of woo. If this is nefarious to you, there is nothing I can do about that.

Military men where all kinds of non issued gear when in the field. (We should find out what sunglasses they are wearing, maybe Ray-Ban is in on this too lol.)This man chose to wear a cap of a facility where he likely trained at. In case you just skimmed (likely) over what I wrote, I'll repeat it again. Craft provides training to LEO and military, they do not do security operations. They are not mercenaries or private security contractors in any way, shape or form.

Conversing with you is like slamming my head repeatedly into a brick wall, but less enjoyable.

 

[nomuse]

And they're the same people saying that the lighting and shadows in such and such a photograph are all wrong, that an explosion of this precise kind should actually have done more damage to this spot and less to that spot, and that the police would never have tolerated all the civilians still staying at the site of the bombing. It's remarkable how they're all such experts in so many unrelated fields, isn't it? It's like if Doc Savage was a conspiracy theorist.

Now THERE'S an interesting thought. Doc as a Don Quixote figure. With Monk and Ham trailing along, trying to patch up things after him. "Um, Doc, that wasn't actually a supervillian you just destroyed in his lair, it was some random light-house keeper. And that death ray...?"

 

[phunk]

just after robbing a store,

They didn't actually rob the store. My understanding is that someone else robbed the store not long after they were in it, then they were spotted on the security video by the police investigating the robbery.