Bjarne on: Dark Energy, only an illusion.

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Bjarne said:
What else as space can a MF be ?
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Photons.

I thought I should repeat that, because apparently you didn't read MRC_Hans' post.

And I know I've told you this before, but we're back to you thinking magnetic fields are some mysterious unknown again, so I'll repeat myself:

Magnetic fields are described by Quantum Electrodynamics (QED), which is the best tested and most precise theory in the history of physics. It's that simple.
 
This thread should be moved to the Religous Topics Threads. There is no science coming from Bjarne, it is not based on anything but faith.

Paul

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Photons.
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Magnetic fields are described by Quantum Electrodynamics (QED), which is the best tested and most precise theory in the history of physics. It's that simple.
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Still you have not the slightest idea WHAT a MF really IS. (Not what is does) but how it does what it does.

What is the NATURE of a MF (except bla bla bla what it does)

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Bjarne said:
Photons.
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Seems he doesn't believe in Photons, what a dark world he lives in.

Photons form elecromagnetic waves, it's well known that electomagnetic waves have both electric and magnetic components. Thus photones can "have" magnetism.
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Without Photons, no magnetism.


Paul

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Funny, someone comes up with a term and we have to explain it.

Once again, if something has to do with the electromagnet force, Photons are part of it. This includes anything to do with magnetism. The exchange particle is a PHOTON.
Paul

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if something has to do with the electromagnet force,
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The EM force has nothing to do with:
  • what space really is,
  • how space and matter is connected
  • what happens whit the space / matter connection, - when matter moves.
The cause of :
  • the MF of the Sun
  • the MF of the sun wind,
  • the MF of magnetars
  • the MF we assume must be in the central galaxy
Are all unknown.

None of those has anything to do with the EM force and also not with photons.
We do not understand the cause of any of those phenomena’s, - pretty cow logic simple, - because "we" , - (not me) probably believe nature must follow our limit understanding and not its own.

We MUST electromagnetize EVERYTHING before we can understand the mentioned MF.
And this is therefore > here, - the stupidity has its source.

For the cow IQ the real world is not like that, but just > basis:
Matter sucks/deforms/consumes/stretch space.
The day we begin to understand this simple fact, - we have taken a big steep.

Bull and cow are (many times) been used to drag ploughs, - exactly like matter is dragging space.
Hence Bulls and cows know that energy is lost to mother Earth, exactly like energy is lost to the Universe when matter drags space in its wake..
This is what a MF really is.

But cows and bulls have this simple understanding much deeper inside their blood. And I guess also farmers too.

We should be just about 0.000000000000000000000000273% more open minded, and we would see that bright simple light in the dark.
Cows are always open minded, also this is a HUGE advantage compared to humans.

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Bjarne said:
  • the MF of the Sun
  • the MF of the sun wind,
  • the MF of magnetars
  • the MF we assume must be in the central galaxy
Are all unknown.

None of those has anything to do with the EM force and also not with photons.
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Wait...what?! :jaw-dropp

You're saying the magnetic fields of the sun, solar wind etc. aren't electromagnetic?!
 
Bjarne said:
Still you have not the slightest idea WHAT a MF really IS. (Not what is does) but how it does what it does.

What is the NATURE of a MF (except bla bla bla what it does)
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What exactly is a cow?
What is the nature of a cow?
What is the reason for a cow?
 
Let's see, there are four known forces, three have exchange particles we know of. Could there be more forces, yes of course there can be. Has there been any need for a new one in understanding the universe, none so far. Has anyone on this thread shown the need for one besides Bjarne, no. What math has he shown that could be peer reviewed to show this need for something new, none. So why should we take him serious, I don’t know why.

Look, if you think you have something new, you have to show first that you know what has been learned already so you can point out what needs to be corrected, you have not shown you know anything about what is known already. You have only shown that you are clueless.

Paul

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Bjarne said:
The cause of :
  • the MF of the Sun
  • the MF of the sun wind,
  • the MF of magnetars
  • the MF we assume must be in the central galaxy
Are all unknown.

None of those has anything to do with the EM force and also not with photons.
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Is this more of your ignorance of physics, Bjarne?
The fatal flaws and basic ignorance in Bjarne's ideas in his threads

The cause of
  • the MF of the Sun
  • the MF of the sun solar wind.
    (which strictly speaking has no MF because it is neutral on large scales but like any plasma there are MF on scales of ~10 meters),
  • the MF of magnetars
  • the MF we assume must be in the central galaxy (whatever this gibberish means)
  • the MF we measure in the entire galaxy.
  • the MF we measure between galaxies.
  • etc.
is known. It is basically the movement of charged particles (electromagetism).

The fact that you do not understand the cause does not mean that other people do not. Scientists have been studing magnetism for centuries. Our knowledge of magnetism is extermely good as any high school student can tell you.

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Bjarne said:
Ohh come on dreamer , - Tell me about that “bit”.
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I tried, but you refused to listen.

The point is that a MF can travel through space with the speed of light.
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It sure can.

A MF IS NOTHING, because it IS space (in motion)
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What makes you think it is nothing?

What else as space can a MF be ?
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Basically photons. (Warning: That is rather over-simplified, but for the cow mind, it will suffice.)

Hans
 
You're saying the magnetic fields of the sun, solar wind etc. aren't electromagnetic?!
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Excactly
And I am saying you have no idea at all how it is created.
If so tell my how can the Sun somethimes have 2 north poles ?
How is the very strong MF of the solar wind created ?
etc?

What exactly is a cow?
What is the nature of a cow?
What is the reason for a cow?
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All matter originates and exists only by virtue of a force... We must assume behind this force the existence of a conscious and intelligent Mind. This Mind is the matrix of all matter.
Max plank

Look, if you think you have something new, you have to show first that you know what has been learned already so you can point out what needs to be corrected, you have not shown you know anything about what is known already. You have only shown that you are clueless.
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And this is exactly what I will do.
Central gravity is misunderstood.
The way matter connects with space is not understood at all.
I will prove that - by predicting the ADG (inside a object) will not decrease towards the center , so like "we" believe..

The cause of
• the MF of the Sun
• the MF of the sun solar wind.
(which strictly speaking has no MF because it is neutral on large scales but like any plasma there are MF on scales of ~10 meters),
• the MF of magnetars
• the MF we assume must be in the central galaxy (whatever this gibberish means)
• the MF we measure in the entire galaxy.
• the MF we measure between galaxies.
• etc.
is known. It is basically the movement of charged particles (electromagetism).

The fact that you do not understand the cause does not mean that other people do not. Scientists have been studing magnetism for centuries. Our knowledge of magnetism is extermely good as any high school student can tell you.
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Evidence ? ?

Where is the evidence ?

Ohh you must mean this >>

http://www.naturaldelights.biz/yahoo_site_admin/assets/images/koran_gold_400q.227183730_std.jpg

http://gospelgifs.com/clips/clipz-1/images/ggw001.gif

Amen


PS if you did not got the message:
"We" (not me) believe electromagnetism is the cause of almost ALL MF - BUT ; there is no evidence what so ever.

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A scientific truth does not triumph by convincing its opponents and making them see the light, but rather because its opponents eventually die and a new generation grows up that is familiar with it.
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It is funny how the only rebuttal Bjarne can make is childishly ridiculing the answers he gets.

Try to act like a grown-up, Bjarne - then maybe you'd be able to recover a sliver of credibility. Maybe you could even stop some of the laughing.

I will prove that and by predicting the ADG will not decrease towards the center of an object.
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Let's see the math predicting this. You do know that the math must precede the experiment, right?
 
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