Bjarne on: Dark Energy, only an illusion.

[Paul]

How many times shall I tell you that gravity is a side effect of the nuclear interaction

Based on your record of not listening to a word you are told, I should imagine it will be many more.

and that nuclears certainly that can dissolve ?

My hovercraft is full of eels?

the cause of deformed space ?.

A dead cow in a bun knows more about spacetime than you.

How can you bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla about the process whereby space deforms, when you obviously know NOTHING about how it is caused.

How can you bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla about the process whereby space deforms, when you obviously know NOTHING about how it is caused.

I could accpet this is you had a thesis or a idea, but you have NOTHING except bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla .

I could accpet this is you had a thesis or a idea, but you have NOTHING except bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla.

So how can you pretend you know how deformed space is held together, or not held together..?

So how can you pretend you know how deformed space is held together, or not held together..?

All you have; is what you believe, and this is the holy truth right ?
But objective you have absolutely NOTHING (as usual)

All you have; is what you believe, and this is the holy truth right ?
But objective you have absolutely NOTHING (as usual)

 

[Bjarne]

But the idea that no one can find the main source of the gamma ray fog is "incredible," said Martin Weisskopf, a project scientist for the Chandra X-ray Observatory at NASA's Marshall Space Flight Center who was not involved in the study.

"The important thing here is that there is a population of gamma-ray sources out there that one cannot identify, and that's very exciting," Weisskopf said from Hawaii's Big Island, where the study was presented during a meeting of the High Energy Astrophysics Division of the American Astronomical Society.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2010/03/100303-gamma-ray-fog-fermi-dragons/

 

[Paul]

I don't suppose you have a point?

 

[Anders Lindman]

But the idea that no one can find the main source of the gamma ray fog is "incredible," said Martin Weisskopf, a project scientist for the Chandra X-ray Observatory at NASA's Marshall Space Flight Center who was not involved in the study.

"The important thing here is that there is a population of gamma-ray sources out there that one cannot identify, and that's very exciting," Weisskopf said from Hawaii's Big Island, where the study was presented during a meeting of the High Energy Astrophysics Division of the American Astronomical Society.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2010/03/100303-gamma-ray-fog-fermi-dragons/

Peculiar that the gamma radiation is like a flat disk stretching the entire visible universe: http://images.nationalgeographic.com/wpf/media-live/photos/000/132/cache/gamma-ray_13278_600x450.jpg

Looks like something from the Big Bang. Maybe the start of the Big Bang was like a disk rather than a sphere (if the Big Bang theory is true).

 

[Bjarne]

I don't suppose you have a point?

All stars exploded almost at the same time probably for 13,7 billion years ago, in a Big Crunch…
This mean we should be able to see many gamma rays burst coming from the same galaxies that just had appear in at the edge of the universe.
But the interval for galaxies to appear takes a lot of time; - think about the closest galaxies to us is 2 million LY away.
This mean sooner or later we will be able to see a new galaxy appear at the edge of the Universe, emitting plenty of gamma ray burst, but only for a relative short period. Soon such galaxies will be less transparent.
Hence due to less transparency spreading of gamma will be more diffuse. – I guess this is what the gamma mystery mentioned about is about.

 

[Reality Check]

Peculiar that the gamma radiation is like a flat disk stretching the entire visible universe: http://images.nationalgeographic.co...os/000/132/cache/gamma-ray_13278_600x450.jpg.

Not very peculiar that "gamma radiation is like a flat disk" because it is the gamma radiaiton from the Milky Way.

Photo: New Probe's First Gamma Ray Sky Map Unveiled

A view of the entire sky captured by the recently launched Fermi Gamma-ray Space Telescope shows bright radiation coming mostly from the Milky Way's galactic plane.

 

[Anders Lindman]

Not very peculiar that "gamma radiation is like a flat disk" because it is the gamma radiaiton from the Milky Way.

Photo: New Probe's First Gamma Ray Sky Map Unveiled

Oh. Well, ok that explains the flatness.

 

[Bjarne]

For Bjarne, and those who might really be interested:

LHC: Higgs boson 'may have been glimpsed'

http://www.stltoday.com/news/multimedia/image_b861f825-ea95-51f7-ad89-558f274e48ea.html

http://au.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20111212013002AAJ4O68

 

[MRC_Hans]

I was about to reply to Bjarne's posts, but I realized it would be a waste of time.

Hans

 

[Bjarne]

I was about to reply to Bjarne's posts, but I realized it would be a waste of time.

Hans

Hans I believe I know all your answers, even if I told you the moon is yellow, you would reply no, no, no , wrong, wrong, wrong

 

[MRC_Hans]

Hans I believe I know all your answers, even if I told you the moon is yellow, you would reply no, no, no , wrong, wrong, wrong

And, entirely true to style, you are wrong.

Hans

 

[Paul]

All stars exploded almost at the same time probably for 13,7 billion years ago, in a Big Crunch…

You don't even know why that's a stupid statement, do you?

I guess

Constantly, and without any hint of appropriate embarrassment.

 

[Bjarne]

You don't even know why that's a stupid statement, do you?.

Waaaw
Paul have a point
He believe he can disprove that big bang started from a "point" of everything (matter) that exploded.

 

[MRC_Hans]

Waaaw
Paul have a point
He believe he can disprove that big bang started from a "point" of everything (matter) that exploded.

We have been engaging in a battle of wits, against an unarmed man.

Hans

 

[Bjarne]

We have been engaging in a battle of wits, against an unarmed man.
Hans

There are other mysteries, too. For instance, all types of galaxies contain at least a sprinkling of supermassive stars poised to explode. So, astronomers expect to see gamma-ray bursts coming from spiral galaxies, elliptical galaxies, barred galaxies—the whole gamut. Yet the bursts seem to prefer oddball irregular galaxies over all the others. No one knows why. Another example: The first waves of star formation after the Big Bang should have produced an abundance of supermassive stars primed for gamma-ray bursting. Yet there seems to be a dearth of explosions at redshifts (distances) corresponding to that early epoch. Where are the missing gamma-ray bursts? NASA's newest observatory, the Fermi Gamma-ray Space Telescope, launched in 2008, is on a mission to answer that question and others like it. Breaking results may be revealed at the Symposium.
http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2008/16oct_grboverview/

 

[Bjarne]

Scientists thought that the gamma-rays outside our galaxy were jets emitted from the large black-holes found in the center of other, distant galaxies. But, data gathered with the Fermi telescope has indicated that this is wrong… Well, not entirely wrong, but about 70 percent wrong.
Active galaxies can explain less than 30 percent of the extragalactic gamma-ray background Fermi sees,
http://www.calacademy.org/sciencetoday/gamma-ray-mystery


An omnipresent fog of high energy gamma-ray radiation that bathes the entire Universe is being produced mostly by a mysterious, unknown source, revealed scientists this week at a meeting of the American Astronomical Society’s High-Energy Astrophysics Division in sunny Hawaii.
http://www.astronomynow.com/news/n1003/04fermi/

EDITH
Galaxies close to the edge of the visible universe are to blame, it will take 100,000 year before all the gamma from a exploding galaxy can travel from the one end of the periphery to the other, but before gamma and other EM waves will reach that far, such galaxies are no longer transparent. This is why after a short while we will see NOTHING, and the gamma will be diffuse.

Furthermore galaxies almost at the edge at the visible universe, - those that appear in the visible "horizon" few hundred thousand years earlier ( e.g; 13,5 billion years ago) (many up to few million years ealier) are also at that time plasma and is also covering what happens behind.

Therefore there will always be a "mist" of plasma at the edge of the visible Universe that will prevent us for looking through it / or light to escape, and causing gamma to get diffuse..

Don't forget this NASA > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEnpOMYdLgE

 

[Reality Check]

EDITH
Galaxies close to the edge of the visible universe are to blame, ...gibberish...

Gamma-ray Bursts: The Mystery Continues

There are other mysteries, too. For instance, all types of galaxies contain at least a sprinkling of supermassive stars poised to explode. So, astronomers expect to see gamma-ray bursts coming from spiral galaxies, elliptical galaxies, barred galaxies—the whole gamut. Yet the bursts seem to prefer oddball irregular galaxies over all the others. No one knows why. Another example: The first waves of star formation after the Big Bang should have produced an abundance of supermassive stars primed for gamma-ray bursting. Yet there seems to be a dearth of explosions at redshifts (distances) corresponding to that early epoch. Where are the missing gamma-ray bursts?

The point is that we see galaxies in the early universe.
These galaxies should have many massive stars.
Massive stars are thought to be one source of GRB (when they collapse to from black holes).
The conclusion is that we should see GRB from galaxies in the early universe.
The mystery is there are fewer GRB from these galaxies.

You seem to have a fantasy that "plasma" somehow hides gamma ray bursts. That is idiotic because we actually see GRB from them.

Don't forget this NASA > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEnpOMYdLgE

NASA does not forget that.
You are persisting in your ignorance of science. Mysteries are good. It means that we can investigate and resolve them using science.

600 Mysteries in the Night Sky

Gamma rays are by their very nature heralds of great energy and violence. They are a super-energetic form of light produced by sources such as black holes and massive exploding stars. Gamma-rays are so energetic that ordinary lenses and mirrors do not work. As a result, gamma-ray telescopes can't always get a sharp enough focus to determine exactly where the sources are.
For two thirds of the new catalog's sources the Fermi scientists can, with at least reasonable certainty, locate a known gamma ray-producing object*, such as a pulsar or blazar, in the vicinity the gamma-rays are coming from. But the remaining third – the "mystery sources" -- have the researchers stumped, at least for now. And they are the most tantalizing.

 

[Paul]

We have been engaging in a battle of wits, against an unarmed man.

If anyone's seen Takeshi Kitano's Zatoichi, there's a wanna be soldier that keeps running in circles around Aunt Oume's house...

 

[Paulhoff]

My GPS still works.

Paul

 

[Paul]

My GPS still works.

Yeah, well, it's just, you know, magic or something.

I mean, it can't possibly be science because Bjarne posted a picture of Santa and cows teach him the secrets of the cosmos.