Bjarne on: Dark Energy, only an illusion.

[Bjarne]

What science tells us is
what dark matter acts like (and thus candidates for what it is)

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what dark energy acts like (and thus candidates for what it is)

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that the Big Bang happened and candidates for what caused it.

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the curvature of space really explains gravity what a gravitational wave really is

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photon energy lost in the expansion of the Universe is eitehr really lost (there is no reson to think that GR conserved energy at cosmological scales) or is converted to gravitational energy

Or blalp blap blap
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exactly why the distance to e.g; the moon ( a small field of gravity) not is affected by the expanding universe (gravity dominates)

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Only ignorant people think that the small scale distance ""should"" be affected that way.

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exactly why it requires more and more energy to reach diminishing speed increment (special relativity).

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exactly why stars continue to fall into galactic black holes.

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exactly how matter can “touch” affect space

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exactly how cosmological redshift is possible without loss of photon energy

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That Bjarne is ignorant because "how speed of matter can create gravity" is wrong. Gravity is not created by relativistic mass increase because an observer on the mass sees no mass increase!

You cannot see mass increase
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good possibilities for the cause of decelerating space probes

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good possibilities cause of accelerating space probes

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good possibilities cause of the orbital eccentricity anomaly of the moon

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good possibilities cause of the large magnetic field of galaxies, and cluster of galaxies.

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[steenkh]

The conclusion of all this seems to be that for Bjarne, physics is nothing but "incoherent crap", and when his lack of understanding is explained to him, all he hears is "blap blap blap". Bjarne's world is cow physics, and he is not interested in the real world.

Is it worth continuing this thread and wasting effort on teaching him physics?

 

[MRC_Hans]

Yes I know


Yes it is true that you don't know, and even have no clue of the cause of ;

• what dark matter is
• what dark energy is
• why BigBang happened
• what the curvature of space really mean
• what a gravitionel wave really is
• what happens to photon energy that “must” be lost in your picture of the Universe ?
• why distance to e.g; the moon ( a small field of gravity) not is affected due to the so called expanding universe when distance between big field of gravity (galaxies) ""should"" be affected that way.
• why it requires more and more energy to reach diminishing speed increment (what is the process about).
• why stars continue to fall into galactic black holes.
• how matter can “touch” affect space
• how cosmological redshift “should” be possible without lose og photon energy
• how speed of matter can create gravity
• the cause of decelerating space probes
• the cause of accelerating space probes
• the cause of the orbital eccentricity anomaly of the moon
• the cause of the large magnetic field of galaxies, and cluster of galaxies.
• and much much much much much more........

I haven't time to go into details, but the above reflects YOUR level of knowledge, not that of science. There are many of those things we don't understand full, but we certainly have good clues to the solutions.

However, YOU obviously don't have a clue.

It is like the car mechanic that claims he have true knowledge of a car, but in fact only he have only a true understanding of the drain plug, - the rest of the parts he have no idea at all what is about, - how all these other parts works together with anything else.

He is as much a car mechanic as you are a scientist.

*** I *** prefer to; "repair my car myself" - and use my own head , - instead of trusting a herd of arrogant orthodox omniscient "mechanics".
You know it is always better to at least truly try to understand how the car is working (in a holistic way) instead of getting lost in the drain plug and left brained incoherent nonsense..

Then I hope, for the safety of everybody, that you are a far better maechanic than you are a scientist.

To understand it all have something with the right brian half to do, - did you know that?

You know, - I like the right brian half.

I suggest we leave Brian out of this.

Science should be just a little more humble, and could learn a lot from the stupid mechanic, - and not always be so arrogant orthodox omniscient, - like we much too often see. - But I am not sure it ever will happen.

Bjarne respect is not something you can demand, it is earned. So far, I'm afraid your respect account here and everywhere else where you have been trying to flaunt your ideas is deep in the red. You have had a unique success in making a complete fool of yourself. You have been so consistently mistaken that if you told me the time of the day, I would double check it.

- In fact, I'm truely puzzled: Why do you keep on? Even if you imagine that you are right, you MUST have noticed that everybody is laughing at you. Are you so hungry for attention that you will rather play the clown than nothing at all?

Hans

 

[MRC_Hans]

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You cannot see mass increase
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That is a very good assessment of your contributions so far *). This is what makes it so sad: Not only are your ideas pure fantasy, based on a nearly total lack of knowledge and understanding, but they even fail their own premises. Even if RR existed, it would not have the effects you imagine.

I will not see that I haven't seen such a total fail before, because unfortunately I have, but you are certainly in the top failure legue.

There was a time when you seemed to listen a little to sense, but for a long while now, you have simply ignored all arguments and dug yourself ever deeper into your own nonsense. This is a one-way street, and you must go it alone. I pity you.

Hans

*) And note the repeated misspellings. This, in his own self-esteem, superbrain cannot even use a spellchecker. Two errors in four words, cut and pasted over half a page.

 

[MRC_Hans]

The conclusion of all this seems to be that for Bjarne, physics is nothing but "incoherent crap", and when his lack of understanding is explained to him, all he hears is "blap blap blap". Bjarne's world is cow physics, and he is not interested in the real world.

Is it worth continuing this thread and wasting effort on teaching him physics?

It is a long time since I gave up teaching Bjarne anything. For a while, I felt I learned a little, because every time Bjarne posted some new cow droppings, I went in and studied the actual science. However I don't even need that any longer, because his claims have become so absurd that they evade scientific references.

So yes, perhaps we should stop giving him the attention he so craves.

Hans

 

[MRC_Hans]

Oh, and I predict that Bjarne will now claim he has defeated us.

Hans

 

[Bjarne]

This is what makes it so sad: Not only are your ideas pure fantasy, based on a nearly total lack of knowledge and understanding, but they even fail their own premises.

For example; photon energy cannot be lost, except in your fantasy.
Distance to the moon is NOT increasing due to the so called expanding Universe.

The idea that space expands is so incoherent with everythingelse that is possible can be.

All you have is fantasy, - but no fact at all, and this is what you too often use as basic for all further understanding.

The so called dark energy is the biggest evidence possible to get, which prove that RR is real, simple because dark energy is released gravity.
The evidence is so big, it is much bigger as when the left brian cannot see the wood because there is much too much trees and bush around..

Dark energy is ONLY a gravitionel wave.
But this is too big for a; - lost in the drain plug brian, - to understand.

I am sure you can understand that sometime a mechanic really can lost himself in the drain plug.
The right brain half is never lost in the bush, and if it happens it is maximum 2 % .
The left brain half can easy be 999999999999,999613812367 % lost in the bush, or in the drain plug.

*) And note the repeated misspellings. This, in his own self-esteem, superbrain cannot even use a spellchecker. Two errors in four words, cut and pasted over half a page.

The left brian see details.
As I told you, - I will do the right brian work, - above bush .
You can do the lost left brain work, - in the bush .

OK ?

 

[Paul]

Brians

Brain

A Brain

Bjarne's Brain

 

[Bjarne]

Paul

Is yours brain more worth as mine, do you think ?

 

[Daylightstar]

...
You can do the lost left brain work, - in the bush .
OK ?

Looks like you have one of your cows trying to do that for you already. But apparently it's stuck.
http://www.facebook.com/pages/A-COW-STUCK-IN-A-BUSH/334036846991

No wonder you do so badly with your 'left brain work'.

 

[Daylightstar]

Paul

Is yours brain more worth as mine, do you think ?

Monetary worth or processing capability worth?

 

[Little 10 Toes]

And at least most people on this board know how to use the quote function.

 

[MRC_Hans]

For example; photon energy cannot be lost, except in your fantasy.

It can. You see, the energy of a photon depends on its wavelength. The shorter the wavelength, the higher the energy. So what happens when a photon gets red-shifted?

Yes, its energy is lower.

Distance to the moon is NOT increasing due to the so called expanding Universe.

The idea that space expands is so incoherent with everythingelse that is possible can be.

Nevertheless this is what we observe.

brian OK ?

No.

Hans

 

[MRC_Hans]

Paul

Is yours brain more worth as mine, do you think ?

Presumably your brain is the most valuable, Bjarne.

Because it has never been used.

Hans

 

[Bjarne]

It can. You see, the energy of a photon depends on its wavelength. The shorter the wavelength, the higher the energy. So what happens when a photon gets red-shifted?
Yes, its energy is lower.

you try to bend certain science so that it fits to Utopia" when you change the wave length you will have less energy per second. - The math is so simple that a cow concrete brain know this even after it have been death in 8000 year.

Nevertheless this is what we observe.

No this is what you NOT observe
You do NOT observe the distance to the moon is expanding, we talk about something you do NOT observe.
In the same way if you cannot see a cow in your bed right now you have NOT observed that cow.

 

[Paul]

Paul

Is yours brain more worth as mine, do you think ?

I don't know, yours appears to be faulty which may command a premium from curious anatomists.

 

[Paul]

you try to bend certain science so that it fits to Utopia

Yep that's what happens: scientists created a Utopia where parts don't always fit, things behave strangely, most of the universe is trying to kill us and we don't know how it really works.

After that they spent their time constructing elaborate false theories to best fit their new Platonic paradise.

when you change the wave length you will have less energy per second. - The math is so simple that a cow concrete brain know this even after it have been death in 8000 year.

What happens to the frequency O great one?

No this is what you NOT observe

We don't observe the universe expanding?

You do NOT observe the distance to the moon is expanding, we talk about something you do NOT observe.

That's what you talk about, we observe the moon receding by about 38mm per year.

In the same way if you cannot see a cow in your bed right now you have NOT observed that cow

What if it's an invisible cow but I can hear it?

Or smell it?

Or sense its radiated heat?

Or observe the deformation of the mattress?

Or observe a change in the energy of the bed/cow system?

Or measure its gravity?

Or record the reflection of radio waves?

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[Bjarne]

What if it's an invisible cow but I can hear it?

Or smell it?

Or sense its radiated heat?

Or observe the deformation of the mattress?

Or observe a change in the energy of the bed/cow system?

Or measure its gravity?

Or record the reflection of radio waves?

etc

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You mean the cow is made of dark matter?
So dark matter smell?
This is exactly also what I thought.
The smell must be very similar to something between concrete and rubbish right ?

 

[Paul]

You mean the cow is made of dark matter?

No, I didn't mean that because I'm not an idiot.

So dark matter smell?

Yes, that's how we know where it is.

This is exactly also what I thought.

I can't imagine that this would surprise anyone.

The smell must be very similar to something between concrete and rubbish right ?

Polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons.

 

[Bjarne]

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