Bjarne on: Dark Energy, only an illusion.

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And here is what that cow would answer you;
"Stop pushing ! - then I would stop walking, muuuh",- , only humans is walking restless around without reason, not cows. Muuuhhh-Capisco?

If space could answer you it would say; Hans I don’t like you to push a body through me, the day you stop pushing that body constantly using energy on it I will stop that motion.

No.

All the Space probes anomalies are in the first places caused by deceleration + (in the follow wind zone) = acceleration (or more exact relative less deceleration).

So the underlying cause of all the space probes anomalies, are in fact nothing BUT different level of deceleration.

No. Bjarne things don't happen because you say so.

The effect on satellite is much weaker as of the Moon.

No, it will be the same. The effect of gravity is the same on ALL objects, because the lower force is balanced by a lower mass. (In a vaccum, a feather and a rock fall at the same speed).

These are apogee anomalies fast building up and cancel out. If you give me the duration of the apogee precession period, I can easy calculate the influence. Notice time of 1 orbit is always the same (not affected) only the distance to the Satellites by apogee and perigee.

That seems to be gibberish. If the excentricity changes, the orbital period changes.

Let assume the influence is 5 cm per period (before it cancel out) - the only way of discovering this would be that the signal will come 0,05 / 300,000,000 later or sooner as expected. Who do you think would notice. I believe even not an atomic watch?

Nobody cares what you believe. Such a difference would almost immidiately be noticed on GPS sattelites, and of course geostationart sattelites would drift.

No, RR in or Solar system is the first place you must understand it.
For example; The Earth do have larger speed at perihelion, this mean the mass at the Earth is simply larger at that point.
Not much but is must be true.

Of course the relativistic mass chages.

You can calculate, but to weak to measure (with a gravimeter).

You can't measure it with a gravimeter, since it will move at the same speed.

.... You haven't understood anything about relativity, have you?

If our speed in the Milkyway would stop, we would lose gravity too, - the same if the speed of the local cluster would stop.

That is one of the most silly things you have ever said (and that is no mean feat).

And as you know, I believe there are a level more, > the speed of the rotation of the Universe + there could be one level higher than this, - the speed of the Universe itself.

Nobody cares what you believe.

Relative to what you may ask? – Answer relative to different observer. Speed is different and each time the more and more “absolute” perspective is different.

You have not understood relativity. At all.
- Well, it is a bit over cow level, so how should you?


Seen form an overall perspective no, - you only get the results you want, - based on the uncompleted data you enter into the equations.

Yeah, I have noticed this is the way you work: Get the results you want, by entering incomplete data. I might add: Into incomplete equations. :p

Bjarne, we have long since found you out: You haven't got a clue, you just make up stuff as you go. At least most crackpots have some idea, and stick to it, but you just let your imagination run free.

Hans
 
The fun thing here is that Bjarne has now completely forgotten why he is so eager to argue that there is resistance against motion:

In his original dream, matter continuously sucked in space, causing a 'space wind' that was pulling stuff together.

It was then pointed out to him that for this to work, there had to be a friction between space and matter.

So, since he hasn't even grasped such a simple concept as inertia, he claimed that such a resistance indeed existed (RAM).

He has now been through several iterations as each of his notions was shot down. From simple misunderstanding of inertia, to magnetic drag, and now we are at some stuff he calls relativistic resistance (RR).

In the process, the steady stream of space has been abandoned (even Bjarne realized that he could not explain where all that space went) in favor of some alternative pulling and release of space, and the 'space vacuum' was invented instead. The fun thing is that since the space vacuum (which, if you go into it, is indistinguishable from conventional gravity) is now an elastic interaction, he no longer needs his RAM/RR thingy. I expect that sooner or later he will realize this and abandon it in favor of some equally silly idea.

It seems that anything goes as long as it is not the stark reality, in which Bjarne is just an unlearned chap who should get on with his life.

Hans
 
You can waffle, misunderstand, ignore, insult, lie and invent all you want Bjarne, but until you produce some evidence the conclusion must be that you are incompetent, a liar or an incompetent liar.

So this is what you’ll call all scientist that sooner or later did have their breakthrough ?

So this is what you'll call all scientists that sooner or later did have their breakthrough for liars or an incompetent liars?

I know there is something rotten in the State of Denmark, but I didn’t know it were so bad in UK (too) - - maybe it is not, maybe this is only a lvery ocal situation - over there...
 
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So this is what you’ll call all scientist that sooner or later did have their breakthrough ?
You are not a scientist and you have most certainly had no breakthrough.

Unless you count the time you broke through the BS barrier.


So this is what you'll call all scientists that sooner or later did have their breakthrough for liars or an incompetent liars?
I was referring to you specifically Bjarne, you cannot or will not provide anything of evidenciary value. Most of the time you cannot provide anything of even basic competence.
 
No, it will be the same. The effect of gravity is the same on ALL objects, because the lower force is balanced by a lower mass. (In a vaccum, a feather and a rock fall at the same speed).
We are not speaking, and have never been spoken about mass depending influences.
But system depending influences.
Mother Cow pleasseeeeeessse heeeelpp me.
I will soon give up explaining Hans annnnyyyyyythiiiiing.

That seems to be gibberish. If the excentricity changes, the orbital period changes.
Bjarne
These are apogee anomalies fast building up and cancel out. If you give me the duration of the apogee precession period, I can easy calculate the influence. Notice time of 1 orbit is always the same (not affected) only the distance to the Satellites by apogee and perigee.
Hans
That seems to be gibberish. If the excentricity changes, the orbital period changes
Mother Cow pleasseeeeeessse heleeelpp me.
I will soon give up explaining Hans annnnyyyyyythiiiiing.
Hans there is 2 different influences, one is an influence of the eccentricity (not excentricity) , always when there is such 2 possibilities to chose from you can manage to mix it all together. .

I cannot do more for you.
I have before offered you free Cow logic lessons
I think we shall start from there, before taking advanced levels.
YES in the one case the orbital eccentricity (not excentricity) is changing, - this happen for the Moon (we don’t know why) and on a very much smaller scale it must happens for satellites orbits too, - and not to forget for ALL Moons.

Nobody cares what you believe. Such a difference would almost immidiately be noticed on GPS sattelites, and of course geostationart sattelites would drift.
No because in this case there is no time lost of the orbit due to the apogee precission anomaly, only insignificant signal delay or too fast signal.

The other anomaly is a orbital eccentricity this will be less as 5 mm per year.
This anomaly will cansel it self out fast and appear agian.
It is billion parts we are talking about. It is extremely difficult to discover.

We already have good reason to believe satellites too will be affected with such magnitude.


You can't measure it with a gravimeter, since it will move at the same speed.
Rubbish, if the Speed of the Earth would be fast enough you must be able to measure it with a gravimeter.
It has nothing with a different observer to do; - if this was the case a person living at Jupiter and Mercury would not agree about the mass of the Earth.

In his original dream, matter continuously sucked in space, causing a 'space wind' that was pulling stuff together

Liar I NEVER claimed that,

but only that matter in motion would drag space, - and that would cause a space wind. - This is a completely different story.

The basic claim is that gravity, dark matter and dark energy is a trinity, - the glue / common denominator is to understand the nature of gravity, - which mean that gravity = absorbed space.

All space does is only to stretch or release its own "density".
Dark Energy is release of space.
Gravity the opposite
Dark Matter = the same influence on space as visible matter - but dark matter = matter that exploded 13,7 billion years ago, still the effect from that matter is here, - that effect is releases as so called dark energy, the opposite...

This is the basic theory.


A second parts of the theory is a consequences of; what just have been mentioned; - it is for example about: now when we know how matter and space is connected, we can remove our blindfolds and begin to understand why there is RR (relative resistance), - why and how speed is causing mass increase, and at the same time resistance against motion - simply because, - relativistic mass increase only can be a result of larger space absorption. And this Cow logic simply mean RR

We are now in daylight, and the road is strait, - just follow that, it is all from here so obviously.

And don’t stop , before this theory proves itself.
It is inevitable…

The evidence are already everywhere around us, and more will follow.

The good thing is this theory can point out exactly where to look, - look in exactly the predicted directions and you’ll certainly see more and more evidence popping up everywhere.

For example all the moons are not following orbits we can predict based on the prevailing knowledge. And whys should they ? - space probes does also not follow orbits we can predict , stars not either, and off course also not the planet.

Someone want a bet 1 million USD that the orbit our Moon not follows an orbit we can predict based on known common knowledge?
 
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But system depending influences.
Mother Cow pleasseeeeeessse heeeelpp me.
I will soon give up explaining Hans annnnyyyyyythiiiiing.

You have never been able to explain anything to me (or anybody else), because you don't know anything.

Someone want a bet 1 million USD that the orbit our Moon not follows an orbit we can predict based on known common knowledge?

You don't have a million to bet.

I have long since offered to bet you 1$. You should be able to afford that.

Hans
 
We are not speaking, and have never been spoken about mass depending influences.
Never, not ever, about anything?


But system depending influences.
They sound interesting, care to tell us what they are and exactly what their effects are?


I will soon give up explaining Hans annnnyyyyyythiiiiing.
You are in no position to pretend to be able to explain anything to anyone. You are not even capable of explaining your own ideas without inventing expressions, misusing terms and wholesale fabrication of data.


...influence of the eccentricity (not excentricity)...
Someone with your poor grasp of proofreading and lax approach to grammar is not entitled to play pedant.


The other anomaly is a orbital eccentricity this will be less as 5 mm per year.
Where did you get this data, or did you make it up again?


This anomaly will cansel it self out fast and appear agian.
Why would it do that?


It is billion parts we are talking about. It is extremely difficult to discover.
Yet you claim to know it to an accuracy of millimetres.


We already have good reason to believe satellites too will be affected with such magnitude.
Do you mean that you think that should be the case but have no data to support it?


It has nothing with a different observer to do;
If it's relativity, it only has to do with observers.


if this was the case a person living at Jupiter and Mercury would not agree about the mass of the Earth.
Are you suggesting that Earth is moving at relativistic speed in respect to Jupiter and Mercury?


Liar I NEVER claimed that,
If you want someone to believe you didn't claim something it is generally not a good idea to basically repeat the claim immediately following the denial.


This is the basic theory.
Whatever that is, it is not a theory.


And this Cow logic simply mean RR
Show me a cow with a position on the physics faculty at a major university and I may stop thinking you are a disingenuous tool.


We are now in daylight, and the road is strait, - just follow that, it is all from here so obviously.
It's just a pity that the road leads to a cliff and everyone else took the Maglev to Realityville.


The evidence are already everywhere around us, and more will follow.
Some would be nice, any would be a start.
 
What is the formula for RR?
Asked on 17 April 2011

Since you seem too incompetent (or scared?) to do the RR claculation for the Moon despite being able to somehow do it for other orbiting bodies, I may have a go when I have the actual equation that you used to get your numbers.

P.S.
Bjarne, show us "the equation hat unite gravity and the strong force"
Asked on 16 March 2011
Over a month now and no equation. So it seems that you were lying or just deluded, Bjarne :jaw-dropp!
But you could just be mistaken - have you posted a retraction of that statement, i.e. that you have no equation?
 
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I have turned the direction of the solar systems motion

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Otherwise I could not get the Pioneer space probes to decelerate.
Furthermore I have done new calculations; http://www.science27.com/english/Mercury.html
So there will not be any new Ice age, for I believe more that 100,000 year.
The next 50,000 year the orbit of the Earth will become more circular.
It will be warmer winter at the Southern Hemisphere and Colder Summers
We will get the opposite, - warmer summer and colder winter.

( The influence of CO2 - ?)

The Voyager space probes have also been affected, but there was not spin-stabilization on these probes, this is why distance measurement not was accurate enough.

If it would had been we would have detetced that Voyager-1 - was acclerating and Voyager-2 decelerating.

It is all pretty simple upwards motion (see the image) = RR - downwards motion = less RR.
 
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Very astute, Bjarne; I told you that a few weeks ago.:rolleyes:

There is no RR.

Hans

But you did not told me what you had in mind, - at least not the motion direction of the solar system.

Anyway the influences will be stronger as you belive..
 
What is the formula for RR

Still posting your idiotic cartoons and no answer to
What is the formula for RR?
Asked on 17 April 2011

Since you seem too incompetent (or scared?) to do the RR claculation for the Moon despite being able to somehow do it for other orbiting bodies, I may have a go when I have the actual equation that you used to get your numbers.

P.S.
Bjarne, show us "the equation hat unite gravity and the strong force"
Asked on 16 March 2011
Over a month now and no equation. So it seems that you were lying or just deluded, Bjarne :jaw-dropp!
But you could just be mistaken - have you posted a retraction of that statement, i.e. that you have no equation?
 
Still posting your idiotic cartoons and no answer to

The Moon do have a known (long term) eccentricity anomaly = about 5mm extension ever year.
The reason is unknown.
I will off course try to solve that too.
Don't worry.

Notice
This anomaly is first discovered decades after the Lunar Laser Ranging experiment begun.


The Moon does also have a short time eccentricity anomaly.
This will reach about 0,9 meter within a ½ year and then cancel out again the next ½ year that follows.
This anomaly is still not discovered by the Lunar Laser Ranging experiment.
Calculation is done here > http://www.science27.com/english/IrregularMoonsNew.html
 
I will off course try to solve that too.

Too? You have not solved anything so far.

Don't worry.

Don't worry, we don't.

The Moon does also have a short time eccentricity anomaly.
This will reach about 0,9 meter within a ½ year and then cancel out again the next ½ year that follows.
This anomaly is still not discovered by the Lunar Laser Ranging experiment.
Calculation is done here > http://www.science27.com/english/IrregularMoonsNew.html

Bjarne, don't be silly; the LLR maps the distance ot the moon down to millimeters. 0.9 meters would have been discovered almost immidiately.

Hans
 
Bjarne, don't be silly; the LLR maps the distance ot the moon down to millimeters. 0.9 meters would have been discovered almost immidiately.

Hans

We do yes, but we are looking for long terms anomalies .

Even The long term anomaly, already known (but not understood) that have been just in front of our noose every day, - showing the eccentricity increasing 5mm every year, - has for decades been hidden even though measurement have taken place - 30 years * 5 mm = 150 mm
How could that much have hide do you think, -?
Even though it was there all the time and increasing ?

It tells you something about what we really measure, and also what we NOT are measuring.

Data are not compared based on few month measurements.

I have reason to believe this is not the case.
To check whether an anomaly occurs and cancel out within a year would require very complicated calculation.

No one wants a do such without reason.
What I mean; Tell me would begin to do very complicated probability calculation, showing how likely it is to find a cow in your bed tonight?
I mean without first having a reason to believe that really is realistic to believe so ... and therefore to use time on such "mad" calculation.
I guess you would not be stupid enough to spend time on that, - would you?
And I guess Scientist are logical too and exactly so lazy like you.

Why should scientist spend time to check for a short time anomaly occurs and cancel out every year? It is not easy to make exact calculation. – So fare I remember there are more than 70 influences that affect the Moon.
 
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