Bjarne on: Dark Energy, only an illusion.

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I have some guesses at what might have happened to the silo experiment:

1) Results are in, but the report is being withheld, pending payment of the earlier reports.

2) The results are in, but they are not favorable to Bjarne's ideas, so he ignores them.

3) DTU has found out that he is misusing their good name and have closed the cooperation.

Hans
 
MRC_Hans said:
I have some guesses at what might have happened to the silo experiment:

1) Results are in, but the report is being withheld, pending payment of the earlier reports.

2) The results are in, but they are not favorable to Bjarne's ideas, so he ignores them.

3) DTU has found out that he is misusing their good name and have closed the cooperation.

Hans
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“An expert is a man who has made all the mistakes which can be made, in a narrow field.”
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Read a few pages here, Crikey why are people so bitchy in cosmology related threads like this where different theories challenge the mainstream idea. This is supposed to be how science works. Come up with a crackpot idea, test it, then granted, it usually fails, but you might get lucky. Its called progress.

Cosmology and astrophysics are not really scientific disciplines. More an internally consistant theory/guess at what the EM data we get from space could mean.
 
Zeuzzz said:
Read a few pages here, Crikey why are people so bitchy in cosmology related threads like this where different theories challenge the mainstream idea. This is supposed to be how science works. Come up with a crackpot idea, test it, then granted, it usually fails, but you might get lucky. Its called progress.

Cosmology and astrophysics are not really scientific disciplines. More an internally consistant theory/guess at what the EM data we get from space could mean.
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Problem here is that Bjarne's crackpot idea failed even at the conceptual level, but he persists.

Hans
 
Bjarne said:
“An expert is a man who has made all the mistakes which can be made, in a narrow field.”
Niels Bohr
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Well, even if you made all the mistakes that could be made, it doesn't make you an expert, sorry.

However, the drawings of the Domus Vista show why there appears to be an anomaly in the gravity curve. The mass distribution in the lower floors is clearly different.

How about the grain silo measurements?

Hans
 
However, the drawings of the Domus Vista show why there appears to be an anomaly in the gravity curve. The mass distribution in the lower floors is clearly different.
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These floors pull upwards and this is what you see.
You can also see that at 3rd floor ADG is about 200 microgal below FAG
There are no way you can explain that
According to your religion it should be zero (near the COG)
Especially the cellar and 3rd floor pulls LOCALLY downwards, and still ADG is here around MINUS 200 microgal
If that was not the case the NEGTAIVE values below FAG would have been much greater, and hence YOU and the prevailing theory would have a much greater problem.
But Hans you’ll not understand that too.
Have a nice day.

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Have you consider to take some lesson from Mother Cow ?

And how can you estimate a value for the basement, when you have no measurement from there?
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We should have done yes. But focus was more directed towards COG
Both theories agrees that ADG her must be around minus 60 -70 microgal,
So WHAT is your problem with that Sir ?
Anyway you will have a strong local pull downwards due to HUGE concrete foundation, this will anyway FORCE you to estimate.
Very GOOD explanation and science…SIR
 
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Do I sense a language barrier here? Could be the cause of some confusion. The theories either wrong, or someone will soon become an internationally celebrated scientific pioneer.
 
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Do I sense a language barrier here? Could be the cause of some confusion. The theories either wrong, or someone will soon become an internationally celebrated scientific pioneer.
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I understand that Bjarne have a similar problem getting his theories accepted on Danish language physicist forums.
 
Bjarne said:
These floors pull upwards and this is what you see.
You can also see that at 3rd floor ADG is about 200 microgal below FAG
There are no way you can explain that
According to your religion it should be zero (near the COG)
Especially the cellar and 3rd floor pulls LOCALLY downwards, and still ADG is here around MINUS 200 microgal
If that was not the case the NEGTAIVE values below FAG would have been much greater, and hence YOU and the prevailing theory would have a much greater problem.
But Hans you’ll not understand that too.
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As I have told you repeatedly, you cannot put a sign to the gravity from the building, because you have no baseline.

How about the grain silo measurements?

Oh, and:

How about the grain silo measurements?

Hans
 
As I have told you repeatedly, you cannot put a sign to the gravity from the building, because you have no baseline.
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There are no such crap as baseline, - but a FAG line.

304,6 µgal per meter - you can add or deduct few percent depending where on the planet you are, - and that’s all what is allowed my dear.....

So just plug in the FAG and calculated the difference from the measured ADG values, - so cow logic simple to do.

Even a blind cow would understand that ADG then seems to be accelerating form GF (incl cellar) to the 3rd floor, - no less as about minus 200 - 250 µgal .

You SHOULD according to your religion have zero here, (near the COG) so simple is that.

The silo experiment was not original part of the theory and also never a certain statement, - I wrote several times that; it should not surprise me if COG was to be found at the GF. – It is found a place none of us could guess, - > near the 5th floor.

So what?

The theory is still alive and stronger as ever, - now when all the data are confirmed and now when drawing of the building clearly shows that the 3 lower floor and the cellar + foundation are DAME HEAVE, - and pulls upwards, it is only left to compare this with the measurement, and try to get a REASONABLE pattern and understanding out of this.

BUT what you do is inventing a baseline factory, - manipulation the data , to find a place to hang your hat, - because you don’t want to understand ANYTHING, - even not that rain is heavier than air.

BUT there are no upwards acceleration so like the values below FAG clearly shows.

There is NO WAY where ADG can reach 200 µgal in such light building.

The measured 200 µgal below FAG is NOT a speed, BUT a depth in the space vacuum. – It is rather a expression of ; µgal-meter, - a new “unit” invented to describe the depth of a space vacuum below the FAG line..

Meter multiplied with the average ADG = µgal-meters.


Ohhh my dear this all like flow of mathematical wisdom as would it have some directly from Mother Cows mouth.

Let us try like that:

Let us say you in 10 second can reach a distance of 10 meter.

You must start from 1 m/s and either be decelerate from 1/ms to zero, - or move with constant speed 1 m/s

Which theory is correct?

Can you see the mathematical wisdom painted on the wall?

We are talking about OBJECTIVE MEASUREMENT of a “ADG-distance” into a vacuum, seen in a mathematical perspective, - I have named the units; µgal-meters. Almost the same principle as km/h - m/s or what so ever...

I guess you cannot see anything on that wall right ? - and I guess you never will.

A scientific truth does not triumph by convincing its opponents and making them see the light, but rather because its opponents eventually die and a new generation grows up that is familiar with it.
Max Planck
 
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Bjarne said:
There are no such crap as baseline, - but a FAG line.
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There is no such crap as a FAG line. There is a baseline measurement.
To cater for your bovine fetish:
Even a blind cow knows that without a measurement of the ADG without the building (the baseline measurement), there is no way to determine the center of gravity (COG) from the data.
You can set the baseline to the ADG at the first floor and subtract the free air gradient to get an estimate of the COG.
You can set the baseline to the ADG at the top floor and subtract the free air gradient to get an estimate of the COG.
These will give different values.
 
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