Bizarre: Did Bill rape Hillary?

[daredelvis]

Bill Clinton's re-election campaign for governer illegally recieved funds from a failed savings and loan funneled through his White Water land deal. There were only *4 people who could have written it and only one person who stood directly to gain from it (Bill Clinton).

Do you have a credible link for that allegation? (not that I don’t trust Drudge)

Daredelvis

 

[RandFan]

Fascinating. I say that because I didn't follow the whitewater case with a close eye, but I had never read about the re-election campaign money issue. You would think that would have played somewhat more prominently in the coverage.

It played quite a bit actually. The problem is that there were so many other twists and turns with the Rose Law firm working both for the government and the savings and loans, Hillary's involvement with the law firm, her claims she did little work for the firm, documents removed from Vince Fosters office after he died, that Foster was involved with the whitewater deal, the documents removed were allegedly about the deal, Hillary's disappearing mystically re-appearing billing records, and many other seemingly sordid and confusing links to politicians and shady characters. Its one of those connect the dots sort of things. Kind of like the whole Bush going to war for oil and the benefit of his friends type of things.

There just wasn't any hard evidence besides crusted body fluids on a blue dress. Had Bill kept little Willy out of any oral orifice while in the oval office it would have all blown over. So to speak.

 

[RandFan]

Do you have a credible link for that allegation? (not that I don’t trust Drudge)

Daredelvis

No, and I have said that A.) I have posted spurios information from Drudge before and B.) If it is shown false I will appologize.

 

[Bjorn]

Its one of those connect the dots sort of things. Kind of like the whole Bush going to war for oil and the benefit of his friends type of things.

"Kind of like" - do you believe both or none of them?

 

[jj]

Re: Re: Bizarre: Did Bill rape Hillary?

Even if he said it it reads like a joke to me.

It has a strong smell of an intensely sarcastic reaction to a stupid question.

 

[corplinx]

Bill Clinton was a flawed man with a penchant for women other than his wife. It isn't inconceivable that perhaps he sought other women because Hillary has intimacy issues of some sort leading to frigidity. It isn't inconceivable that if the Juanita Broderick story was remotely accurate, that he may have had forced intercourse with his wife. In other words, I find the base claim plausible (though not likely).

The second claim about the rape being the source of Chelsea's birth I find lacking on the surface. Once again it is an anonymous source and could be crossed-wires between the source and Clinton (if the source actually exists and isnt flat out lieing).

However, the lack of evidence will always leave it unproven. Klein uses an anonymous source. Even if other claims the source makes can be validated, it doesn't mean the rape claim is.

On the surface I would say this claim is beyond skeptical inquiry unless some compelling evidence proves otherwise but I don't think it will. You have Bill, Hillary, and an anonymous source Clinton bragged about it to. If the source indeed exists, then Clinton obviously knows who the person is and can "out" them. The person would have been on Bermuda and close to the Clintons. I am sure a good reporter could deduct who it is from those clues alone or deduct that the source does not exist.

 

[RandFan]

"Kind of like" - do you believe both or none of them?

Kind of like I don't drink the Kool-Aide. Things aren't always as they appear. I like to stick with what I know. I don't mind speculation but I don't live my life by it. I suspect Bill Clinton did a number of shady things trying to get re-elected. I suspect Bush's motives were not always honorable.

 

[Meadmaker]

It played quite a bit actually.... Its one of those connect the dots sort of things.

Not to beat a dead horse, but I am curious about those campaign contributions.

The reason I'm curious about them is that this would seem like an issue that is actually legitimate.

The fact that the Clintons were part of a shady real estate deal didn't bother me. All the stuff I read about the Rose Law firm didn't bother me. The fact that a lawyer's time sheet would not be 100% accurate doesn't bother me. The fact that Hilary was obviously lying about not being able to find her billing records didn't bother me much. Certainly not enough to make a federal case out of.

What I got out of what I did follow was that the Clintons were partners in a rather shady real estate deal that lost a bunch of money, and that Bill was a philanderer. Who cares?

But if they were actually lining their pockets via a campaign fund with money laundered through a losing real estate deal, that would bother me.

So, do you have to connect the dots to see that they got a 50,000 dollar campaign contribution illegally? Or is the campaign contribution a matter of record, but no one could prove where it came from?

 

[nightwind]

Clinton

This has to be the most bizarre and ridiculous accusation I have heard about Clinton. You would almost think someone was trying to sell a book or something!

 

[daredelvis]

No, and I have said that A.) I have posted spurios information from Drudge before and B.) If it is shown false I will appologize.

Sorry, I was specifically asking about a link or a reference for the accusations about campaign contributions. The Drudge comment was just poorly placed sarcasm.

Though I must comment that if I am to take you skepticism about the rape allegations seriously I would think that another thread title would have been used. Example: “More outrageous allegations about Clinton from partisan hack”.

Daredelvis

 

[jj]

Once again, at worst it sounds like an extremely sarcastic reply to a really stupid question asked at a really stupid time.

 

[RandFan]

Sorry, I was specifically asking about a link or a reference for the accusations about campaign contributions. The Drudge comment was just poorly placed sarcasm.

Though I must comment that if I am to take you skepticism about the rape allegations seriously I would think that another thread title would have been used. Example: “More outrageous allegations about Clinton from partisan hack”.

Daredelvis

Fair enough. I think however that my words speak for themselves. Was the title provocative and perhaps unfair? Perhaps. However it is possible to be both skeptical and provocative.