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Bin Laden Dead?

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http://www.nydailynews.com/news/wor...ntel_on_osama_bin_ladens_location_was_in.html

CIA director Leon Panetta said Sunday that it's been almost a decade since the agency had "precise information" on Osama bin Laden's whereabouts.
In an interview with ABC's This Week, Panetta admitted the last time the CIA had good intelligence on bin Laden's location was "the early 2000s."
"He is, as is obvious, in very deep hiding," said Panetta.
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Or dead?

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2010/06/29/gordon-duff-cia-hints-bin-laden-dead-since-early-2000s/

June 29, 2010

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This week, CIA director Leon Panetta, admitted there has been no information on Osama bin Laden’s whereabouts since “the early 2000′s.” During briefings with the directors of Paksitan’s information and intelligence agencies it was confirmed that Osama bin Laden had been killed, as stated by Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto, in 2001. “Informed sources,” senior Pakistani commanders who worked with the CIA and bin Laden against the Soviets back in the 1980s, had confirmed Osama bin Laden’s death, as reported in the mainstream Islamic news, as having occurred on December 15, 2001.
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I think Al-Qaeda would probably tell the world if Bin Laden died of natural causes.

As long as they promise to continue their glorious jihad of madness, and perhaps blow something up shortly afterwards, it's not like it would change a great deal in terms of the war on terror. Al-Qaeda wants to eviscerate the American economy with attrition in order to induce a complete withdrawel from the Middle-East, and attrition would not lessen with the death of Bin Laden.

It would be far better for them, in terms of morale and propaganda value, if they can push the angle that Bin Laden died naturally when Allah called him, and that the American empire was never able to get to him, would it not?

If they tried to obfuscate his death, I mean... It would just be stupid, and clearly these are not stupid people. Eventually people are gonna know he must be dead, and if you don't come up with the obituary first, your enemy will, and they will spin it to suit their propaganda.
 
Good god. Truther nonsense in this section.

Whatever next? Must be Obamas fault.
 
Besides the obvious non-advantage to those close to him in keeping secret his death...

I don't think they could keep the secret even if they wanted too. It's too important an event. Someone in the know would inevitably give himself a feel-important boost by confiding his precious knowlege in someone else, and so on and so on. Before you know it, everyone is shampooing with Faberge Organic.
 
Here's a clue: If the byline says Gordon Duff, odds are good that it's a bunch of nonsense.
 
So you folks have some evidence that bin Laden is alive?

Perhaps you should let Panetta know.

Sounds like he could use the help.

:D
 
bin Laden

Thanks for the information. I had kind forgotten some of this. I wanted to ask the forum if y'all think that posting a $20,000,000 reward is unwise. I doubt that anyone in the Europe, the US, Japan and the rest of the modern prosperous world knows where bin Laden is and we are the ones that have enough contextual knowleged to know what $20 million is and can do. The CIA could go much cheaper with the people who are likely to know - for instance $25,000 and a new identity and place to live in anonymous land. What is more important is to communicate these things only to the people in the areas who are likely to deliver - not the world. I'm not an intrigue expert but the policy seems to make us look a bit despirate and foolish with money. I'm a firm believer in paying for information. Police forces do it all the time, but police target their local communities and the people who are likely to know - they only go as broad as they have to - and even that is an admission of cluelessness. Payinig for info needs to be a robust part of any intelligence gathering, but the preference need to be for keeping it as cheap as possible and narrowcasting the need under tables as much as possible. A $20,000,000 offer just makes us seem like a joke - as though we don't know what we are doing - even if this is true it shouldn't be broadcast.
 
BeAChooser said:
So you folks have some evidence that bin Laden is alive?

Perhaps you should let Panetta know.

Sounds like he could use the help.

:D
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But Panetta doesn't think he's dead. I figure the audio tapes Bin Laden keeps releasing are probably evidence enough for a reasonable person to conclude that he's still alive.
 
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I figure the audio tapes Bin Laden keeps releasing are probably evidence enough for a reasonable person to conclude that he's still alive.
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But who is telling you those audio tapes are authentic? :)

And why put out only audio tapes if you are trying to send a message to your followers around the world. Prior to the attack on Afghanistan, bin Laden's visage was constantly seen on tape after tape. He was not shy at all. Why has he not done that for many years now? He could do that without providing any clues as to his location so its not a matter of his security. It's not a matter of equipment. I could make a tape with my phone. And his followers would go nuts seeing him. It would eliminate all suspicion that he is dead. It would be far more powerful than a mere audio tape. It would be galvanzing to his movement and a finger in the eye to those who are seeking him. Yet, all we hear are words on tape … words and tape that could be easily faked.

No, I think a reasonable person would conclude he's dead and has been for some time.
 
BeAChooser said:
But who is telling you those audio tapes are authentic? :)

And why put out only audio tapes if you are trying to send a message to your followers around the world. Prior to the attack on Afghanistan, bin Laden's visage was constantly seen on tape after tape. He was not shy at all. Why has he not done that for many years now? He could do that without providing any clues as to his location so its not a matter of his security. It's not a matter of equipment. I could make a tape with my phone. And his followers would go nuts seeing him. It would eliminate all suspicion that he is dead. It would be far more powerful than a mere audio tape. It would be galvanzing to his movement and a finger in the eye to those who are seeking him. Yet, all we hear are words on tape … words and tape that could be easily faked.

No, I think a reasonable person would conclude he's dead and has been for some time.
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Audio and video. Only truther morons think he has been dead for years.

This is hilarious.
 
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BeAChooser said:
And why put out only audio tapes
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He hasn't.

BeAChooser said:
Prior to the attack on Afghanistan, bin Laden's visage was constantly seen on tape after tape. He was not shy at all. Why has he not done that for many years now?
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If you re-read this question verrrry closely, you might find the answer.

BeAChooser said:
It's not a matter of equipment. I could make a tape with my phone.
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Maybe he forgot to pay his bill. Or maybe he lost his iPhone while he was jet-skiing, or something like that.
 
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He is very much alive. I suspect he is under BeAChoosers bed.
 
I did hear that a recent tape from Bin Laden commented on the dreadful performance of the England football team, but that was dismissed as having no signficance since the statement could have been made at any time in the last 44 years...
 
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Was tehre a recent bin laden tape ? It has been years since the media showed one ehre. Or maybe I wasn't paying enough attention to madmen in the news, with the more pressing news of recession and bank failure.
 
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