Bin Laden Dead Truthers Mourn

Does anyone have an exact time of the attack on the mansion, so we can time this more exactly? I just read large explosions from helicopters late at night.

I think they just fired a missile at the mansion, there was never any attempt to nab him. Probably the American special forces helicopter shot down the Pakistani helicopter so they would have a few more bodies to display.
 
http://mediadecoder.blogs.nytimes.c...-announcement-leaked-out/?partner=rss&emc=rss

9:45 pm Eastern US time, the White House say they will hold a news conference

The terse announcement came just after 9:45 p.m. Sunday from Dan Pfeiffer, the White House communications director. “POTUS to address the nation tonight at 10:30 PM Eastern Time,” he wrote on Twitter, sharing the same message that had just been transmitted to the White House press corps.

So what time was Osama actually killed on Sunday night Pakistani killed - or rather what time did the mansion have missiles fired at it?
 
I thing the most ironic part in all of this, is that the media and the president are hailing this death as a success, but meanwhile there are reports now that all military bases are on high alert fearing terrorists attacks in retaliation of this killing. maybe it wasnt the best move afterall??
 
Bin Laden's body headed for burial at sea (convenient)

Apparently, there is no reason to even provide his body as evidence of his death, as it has just been announced that his body is headed for burial at sea so no one can find it, or analyze it. So critical thinkers are "paranoid" if we do not blindly accept such "news"?

The reason that was given was so his burial place would not be a shrine. The "rush" was to make it by next prayer session. So now any Muslim criminals who are killed, and Muslim accident or murder victims must now be buried at sea before an independent autopsy can be done?
http://blogs.abcnews.com/thenote/20...y-headed-for-burial-at-sea-officials-say.html

Why didn't we extend that courtesy to Saddam's sons?

Fox News reported that Bin laden was dead in December 2001.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,41576,00.html

Will Obama next take credit for killing John Wilkes Booth?

Why didn't JSOC just shoot or pull the plug on his kidney dialysis machine?
 
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I can't be bothered arguing about this, the quibblers and naysayers are pretty much irrelevant anyway - it makes next to no odds if they can be convinced or not.

A reasonably detailed account:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/05/01/osama-bin-laden-dead-killed_n_856091.html

for anyone who wants to try and put things together.

really, no debate or arguments? then whats the point of posting on JREF?

I just find it strange that they are burying him “in accordance with Islamic practice and tradition."

they were also sure in a hurry to bury him at sea. No photos of the body?

http://twitter.com/#!/SaeedCNN/statuses/64948211164512256

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/05/02/us-binladen-burial-idUSTRE7411YA20110502
 
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I thing the most ironic part in all of this, is that the media and the president are hailing this death as a success, but meanwhile there are reports now that all military bases are on high alert fearing terrorists attacks in retaliation of this killing. maybe it wasnt the best move afterall??

I think that the results would've been the same on that front if he had been captured instead of killed. All of that aside are you suggesting that we should've let him get away because of something that his followers might do? Do you even bother to listen to yourself and think things through to their logical conclusions or are you just that dense?
 
I think that the results would've been the same on that front if he had been captured instead of killed. All of that aside are you suggesting that we should've let him get away because of something that his followers might do? Do you even bother to listen to yourself and think things through to their logical conclusions or are you just that dense?

All I am saying is if we are supposed to be pragmatic with our foreign policy and figure that the ramifications of killing a terrorist leader would be worst than letting him live then we should choose the route that will lead to less casualties - I thought that was what the war on terror was all about, keeping people safe
 
Buried at sea?
WTF?

What a joke.

They couldn't capture him?


Will the freaking cartoons ever stop?
 
Buried at sea?
WTF?

What a joke.

They couldn't capture him?


Will the freaking cartoons ever stop?
I guess they should have tried to convince him and his bodyguards and friends to stop shooting back, so he could be captured instead.

I'm surprised you didn't mention this to them before they started the mission. And I'm sure you would have had a few other handy hints and tips for the Special Forces team too. :rolleyes:

Carry on if you want to continue looking trollish.
 
Breaking across the news networks at the moment. We won't know anything for certain until Obama has made his statement.

In any case, bin Ladin doesn't matter to the truthers anyway, they'll either just ignore it or claim that he has been stored in a freezer for the past 10 years. That, or they'll call it a 'May Surprise' designed to deflect from the whole Birther nonsense.

More excuses for raising gasoline prices.
 
I guess they should have tried to convince him and his bodyguards and friends to stop shooting back, so he could be captured instead.

I'm surprised you didn't mention this to them before they started the mission. And I'm sure you would have had a few other handy hints and tips for the Special Forces team too. :rolleyes:

Carry on if you want to continue looking trollish.

Do you really believe anyone can hide from American technology for ten years?
 
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I can't be bothered arguing about this, the quibblers and naysayers are pretty much irrelevant anyway - it makes next to no odds if they can be convinced or not.

A reasonably detailed account:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/05/01/osama-bin-laden-dead-killed_n_856091.html

for anyone who wants to try and put things together.

Thanks for that link

Final preparations were made on Sunday. At 2 p.m., the president met with top advisers for an hour and half, at which point he returned to the Situation Room for an additional briefing. Twenty minutes after that, he learned that bin Laden had been “tentatively identified.” By 7 p.m. he was told it was highly probable that bin Laden was at the compound. By 8:30 p.m., he received an additional briefing. He signed off on the attack after that.

No other intelligence operatives in other countries were told of the attack before it occurred -- including Pakistani operatives -- according to administration officials. Vice President Joseph Biden informed congressional leadership of the attack shortly before it took place, aides on the Hill told the Huffington Post.

Details about the fight itself are still difficult to come by. According to local reports in Pakistan, a helicopter involved in the attack had a mechanical problem and crashed.

U.S. forces intentionally destroyed the remainder of the wreckage to reduce signs of their presence in the area , according to NBC and other media reports. Two helicopters remained to provide cover for Joint Special Operations Command forces; in addition, there was a predator drone.

The fight lasted only 40 minutes and was described by a senior administration official as a “surgical raid” conducted by a Navy Seals unit. Bin Laden's adult son was killed, as were two of his couriers and a woman being used as a human shield. Bin Laden himself “did resist the assault force,” a senior administration official said. Reports on Sunday night said the terrorist leader was ultimately shot in the head.

If this is true there is no way there can have been a DNA identification - even in the extremely unlikely situation of an ABI 3700 sitting on a military base on 24/7 standby.

Final approval of the attack at 8:30 pm and announcing a press conference at 9:45 pm. As I said, an absolute minimum is 4 hours once a sample arrives in a lab.
 
Also, were the reports of Bin Laden having kidney disease false? maybe he got it cured during those 10 years

http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,182523,00.html

http://replay.web.archive.org/20011...o.uk/article/0,,2001370005-2001380403,00.html

Yes, I was hoping some kind of autopsy would have been done to answer the vexed kidney question (I believe he probably didn't, but it was just a guess)

So 8:30 pm the President gives final approval
9:45 pm says prepare for a press conference
11:00 pm press conference announcement - has body in Afghanistan
4:00 am - we are told Osama has already been transferred to some undisclosed ocean and dropped overboard.

As I already said, I think it is Osama but he probably died of natural causes - perhaps a cancer that gave some warnings contingency planning was necessary - and this is all an elaborate pageant for the spectators.
 
Keep it up truthers, this is quite hilarious. I'm giving first prize (so far) to TruthMakesPeace for his claim that the Seals could easily have shot the gun out of his hand.
 

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