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thaiboxerken said:
Then it's an unfounded opinion. It's still my opinion and I'll keep it.
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Bwahahahahahahahaha. I thought dogma and superstition was only for the religious.

Not even close, the conclusion is not a restatement of the premise.
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I'm not surprised you lack them mental capacity to spot circular reasoning when you see it.
 
thaiboxerken said:
Wetback is a racial slur.
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No it's not, it's a slur against poor migrant workers from a particular nationality. If "wetback" is a racial slur, so is "redneck".
 
No it's not, it's a slur against poor migrant workers from a particular nationality. If "wetback" is a racial slur, so is "redneck".

Yes, they both are slurs against particular races of people. However, since you are convinced that "wetback" is not a racial slur, can you give me an example of a "real" racial slur?

You sure do like to spin alot.
 
Tony said:
No it's not, it's a slur against poor migrant workers from a particular nationality. If "wetback" is a racial slur, so is "redneck".
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Hmmm yep. Both are racial slurs. I mean you wouldnt call some white Canadian migrant worker a wetback would ya?
 
thaiboxerken said:
can you give me an example of a "real" racial slur?
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There are no words that are real racial slurs. It's all about how words are interpreted and who's doing the interpreting. The "real" slur is in the intention behind the word.
 
Context does play a big part in the meaning of a word. However, wetback is exclusively used to describe mexican immigrants. It is a racial slur by definition.
 
So you're saying that "redneck" is a racial slur?

Yes.


Red herring.

Hardly, it's a relevant point. It shows that the term is exclusive to one race of people.
 
thaiboxerken said:
So if I refer to you as a cracker, then that's not a racial slur?
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I honestly don't give a damn. My biggest problem is with the double standard. Would you care if I called you a "◊◊◊◊◊◊" (or what ever the hell) in return? If not, we're cool. :)
 
I honestly don't give a damn. My biggest problem is with the double standard.

What double standard?

Would you care if I called you a "ni**er" (or what ever the hell) in return?

Yes.
 
thaiboxerken said:
Yes.
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I'm going to remember that.

Hardly, it's a relevant point. It shows that the term is exclusive to one race of people.
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Another red herring. It doesn't refer to an exclusive race. If refers to a poor migrant worker who is of mexican nationality (he can be white, black, or green).
 
If refers to a poor migrant worker who is of mexican nationality (he can be white, black, or green).

Which means it is racist, by definition. Thanks for clarifying my point.

I'm going to remember that.

Good, I don't use racial slurs to refer to people, and I expect others not to describe me with those kinds of slurs as well.
 
thaiboxerken said:
Which means it is racist, by definition. Thanks for clarifying my point.
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By definition it is NOT racist because it does not refer to an exclusive race. It doesn't even refer to _a_ race. A nationality or religion is not a race
 
Tmy said:
Hmmm yep. Both are racial slurs. I mean you wouldnt call some white Canadian migrant worker a wetback would ya?
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Depends. Did he swim the Rio Grande to get in?
 
Tony said:
By definition it is NOT racist because it does not refer to an exclusive race.
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Hispanics are often called wetbacks, regardless of their nationality.
 
thaiboxerken said:
If refers to a poor migrant worker who is of mexican nationality (he can be white, black, or green).

Which means it is racist, by definition. Thanks for clarifying my point.

I'm going to remember that.

Good, I don't use racial slurs to refer to people, and I expect others not to describe me with those kinds of slurs as well.
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Mexican is a race?
 
Ed said:
Mexican is a race?
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According to one of the definitions of "Race" it is:

A group of people united or classified together on the basis of common history, nationality, or geographic distribution: the German race.
 
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