Bill O'Reilly shouts down Michelle Malkin!?

I wonder if Bill fears that he sees a bit too much of himself in the CTs. His rantings about the "culture war" are similarly characterized by silliness, lack of rigour, poor logic, fear mongering and dark motives. In fact, he probably thinks that there are only so many dupes to go around and worried that the CTs will distract his army of halfwit disciples. Fear not, Bill; the CT crowd are your demographic.
 
ConspiRaider said:
This is a woman who thinks racial profiling is a good thing, who defended the internment of Japanese-American citizens during WW2, who said that Norman Mineta (an interned Japanese-American citizen) should resign as Transportation Secretary because his judgment would be colored on disallowing racial profiling, who said when 3 detainees at Gitmo killed themselves: "Boo-freakin-hoo".

She also charged John Kerry of self-inflicting one of his wounds in Vietnam.

Yeah - I'd say she's insane, wouldn't you?
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I wasn't talking specifically about her, I was refering to closing line that I quoted, which was something like "of course she's insane, she's a right winger!".

I guess I couldn't help myself and responded emotionally. I really like this place, but as a conserative, I do find it hard to fit in. There are so many of you here who are obviously left leaning. I don't have a problem with that. What I have a problem with is that some of you just gratuitously attack the right in such a manner.

I could also take pot shots at lefties over and over. But I choose not too. Not just because I don't think it's productive, but because I don't believe that all lefties are all "the same", so to speak. Some of them are nuts, and some are sane. Some of them are idiots, and some of them are genius. The kind of pot shots I would want to take would be over-generalizing the left in the same way some of you are doing to the right.

It's clear that some of you hold conservatives / Republicans in complete disdain. Completely black and white for you. I find that to be rather odd. It strikes me as being fanatical about your ideology.

I find it a bit intimidating personally. It's hard to feel like I would ever be accepted by some of you, just because I am conservative. I am just hoping some of you could possibly take a moment to realize that not everyone on the right is an evil, racist, bible thumping bigot, and tone down your rhetoric a bit. But failing that, I am just going to try to ignore such comments in the future, because it can only lead to arguments.
 
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I'm just concerned that Sword is watching O'Reilly. Dude, don't you get enough blustering stupidity on the internet? ;)
 
ConspiRaider said:
This is a woman who thinks racial profiling is a good thing, who defended the internment of Japanese-American citizens during WW2, who said that Norman Mineta (an interned Japanese-American citizen) should resign as Transportation Secretary because his judgment would be colored on disallowing racial profiling, who said when 3 detainees at Gitmo killed themselves: "Boo-freakin-hoo".
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Let me add my own boo-freakin'-hoo over the suicide of a murderous barbarian who was only sorry that his own death couldn't have destroyed the lives of a few innocents.



She also charged John Kerry of self-inflicting one of his wounds in Vietnam.
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She didn't charge John Kerry with self-inflicting one of his wounds--she pointed out that he demanded--and received--a purple heart for a self-inflicted wound. NOBODY denies that one of his scratches was self-inflicted. Your confusion on this issue stems from assuming that people are contending that he deliberately inflicted the wound. NOBODY is saying that: it was an accident. What Kerry's critics argue is that he milked three very minor wounds for medals and a ticket home.



Yeah - I'd say she's insane, wouldn't you?
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No, she 's not least bit insane. She's highly intelligent and espouses views you disagree with. You can't refute what she says, so you slander her.
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My favorite O'Reilly technique... I forget who I saw that he was debating with, but I think it's a trick he uses a lot. Whenever he's losing a debate, he seems to say:

"We disagree, but I'll let you have the last word."

Opponant states position in summary, video feed is cut.

O'Reilly says "Well, that's completely untrue. Thank you for coming on the show."
 
pomeroo said:
Let me add my own boo-freakin'-hoo over the suicide of a murderous barbarian who was only sorry that his own death couldn't have destroyed the lives of a few innocents.

She didn't charge John Kerry with self-inflicting one of his wounds--she pointed out that he demanded--and received--a purple heart for a self-inflicted wound. NOBODY denies that one of his scratches was self-inflicted. Your confusion on this issue stems from assuming that people are contending that he deliberately inflicted the wound. NOBODY is saying that: it was an accident. What Kerry's critics argue is that he milked three very minor wounds for medals and a ticket home.

No, she 's not least bit insane. She's highly intelligent and espouses views you disagree with. You can't refute what she says, so you slander her.
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Pathetic, Ron, that you are defending this right-wing hate-spewing woman. Racial profiling, eh? Yeah - now THERE'S a good idea! Right! Maybe we should start with profiling Filipinos, which is what she is. Of course you need to understand that I am being facetious - I don't want ANYONE profiled based on race. The very thought of it sickens me. So tremendously anti-American. But she does. And you support her. Why do you hate America, Ron?

When are you going to start caring about people, Ron? I mean in a broad sense? Because THAT is what marks the main difference between right wingers, such as yourself, and liberals. Liberals care about all people in a general sense. People they've never met. People who've not even been born yet. Right wingers care only about themselves.

Witness the global warming issue. You're not going to find very many liberals who deny AGW, or that actions need to be taken NOW to deal with it. Right wingers? Oh you're going to find LEGIONS of right wingers who will gleefully scorn this issue as a "loony lefty conspiracy". Such as you've done in the past.
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ConspiRaider said:
On the other hand, it's a good day on Earth when a fool such as Michelle Malkin gets shouted down by anyone. She is insane. But what do you expect? She's a right winger.
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Conspiraider, insanity is not exclusive to right wingers. Ever heard of George Galloway ? He's as left wing as they come and as nutty as a fruitcake lol
 
peteweaver said:
Conspiraider, insanity is not exclusive to right wingers. Ever heard of George Galloway ? He's as left wing as they come and as nutty as a fruitcake lol
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Good points. "Insane" is a rather strong word, I'll admit that.

The problem is extremism, whether it's right or left. This Malkin character is an extremist. ANYONE who defends racial profiling as a tactic in the conveniently never-ending war on an emotion (terror) is an extremist.

Leftist extremists? I don't like 'em either. Not a bit of it.
 
pomeroo said:
Let me add my own boo-freakin'-hoo over the suicide of a murderous barbarian who was only sorry that his own death couldn't have destroyed the lives of a few innocents.
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Of course the fly in your ointment is that the people in Guantanamo have not been tried at all so you ASSUME the ones who killed themselves are murderous barbarians. I'll contain my joy in the meantime.

She didn't charge John Kerry with self-inflicting one of his wounds--she pointed out that he demanded--and received--a purple heart for a self-inflicted wound. NOBODY denies that one of his scratches was self-inflicted. Your confusion on this issue stems from assuming that people are contending that he deliberately inflicted the wound. NOBODY is saying that: it was an accident. What Kerry's critics argue is that he milked three very minor wounds for medals and a ticket home.
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You are aware that self-inflicted wounds qualify for purple hearts, correct? So it really is immaterial.


No, she 's not least bit insane. She's highly intelligent and espouses views you disagree with. You can't refute what she says, so you slander her.
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Actually, there is a long and detailed critique of her research method and conclusions about internment on the net.

Lurker
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Beth said:
An interesting idea. Maybe he won't allow a proper debunking because he actually believes them but can't say so because he's not allowed to.
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If it was only this issue I would say maybe, but it's almost on every issue. For instance, he told someone to shut up recently because she said the hearing on the recent Attorney firings were going to be transcribed for the senators only. They will not be transcribed for ANYONE. There will be NO written record of the hearing if Bush has his way. He called her a liar and shut her up. Facts don't concern O'Rielly. Just like the truthers.
 
Lurker said:
pomeroo said:
Of course the fly in your ointment is that the people in Guantanamo have not been tried at all so you ASSUME the ones who killed themselves are murderous barbarians. I'll contain my joy in the meantime.
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Guilty as charged. I assume EVERYONE at Gitmo, having been captured on the battlefield in Afghanistan, is a murderous barbarian.


You are aware that self-inflicted wounds qualify for purple hearts, correct? So it really is immaterial.
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Yes, I am aware of that. The complaint with Kerry is that none of his wounds was serious--they were, in fact, little more than scratches--and he used them to browbeat people into awarding him medals. Nobody would be holding his abbreviated tour of duty against him if he hadn't decided to morph into Sgt. Fury at the Democratic National Convention. This is a guy who entered the national consciousness by slandering other vets as war criminal criminals, after all.


Actually, there is a long and detailed critique of her research method and conclusions about internment on the net.

Lurker
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Malkin is a polemicist, not a scholar.
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pagan said:
Scumbag O'Reilly is working his ass off for you guys.

Isn't that reason enough to reconsider your position?
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Bill O'Reilly has down nothing for 'us' at all. He is akin to JDX who also shuts down, shouts down, and threatens anyone who does not hold his particular point of view.

I envision the 'proper' debate that JDX wants as being very much like a Bill O'Reilly interview.
 
Matthew Best said:
Well, was everyone at Gitmo captured on the battlefield in Afghanistan?
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No, this is simply not true. A large majority are suspected to have been random farmers rounded up and turned in for a monetary reward. The lack of proper criminal trials has convinced me the evidence they have of terrorist involvement is one step down from 'full of holes'.
 
Another night, and now it's O'Reilly and Dennis Miller theorizing that Rosie doesn't even believe what she's saying about 9/11 and Iran, etc. See, she is stuck in a bad deal with The View, with no ownership stake, so she's trying to get fired from the show.
 
e^n said:
No, this is simply not true. A large majority are suspected to have been random farmers rounded up and turned in for a monetary reward. The lack of proper criminal trials has convinced me the evidence they have of terrorist involvement is one step down from 'full of holes'.
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The official line is all the detainees at Gitmo were captured on the battlefield. The "random farmers" stuff sounds like a typical leftist fabrication, but I admit that I'm giving you my opinion, not presenting a hard fact.
 
Now we all know that the Irish are particularly good at three things: drinking, fighting and River Dancing.

O'Donnell vs. O'Reily. It would be the shouting match of the century, even money.
 
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