Bigfoot, Skinwalkers, and Bigelow Aerospace

[William Parcher]

There is this conglomerate of wacky woo centered at a place called Skinwalker Ranch in Utah. The place is supposed to be sorta haunted with UFO visitors, interdimensional things, Bigfoot and/or Werewolf, orbs, and other paranormal whatnot. There seems to be a following amongst the Bigfooters and they do discuss it over here on the Bigfoot Forums (BFF). You hear from people who have been there and it includes some Native Americans. They see all sorts of incredible things. Well, they claim they do.

Anyway, this company called Bigelow Aerospace bought the Skinwalker Ranch and is doing research there that is related to UFOs and other weirdness. This company builds spacecrafts that can be rented by civilians (I think)...

Bigelow Aerospace is dedicated to developing next-generation crewed space complexes to revolutionize space commerce and open up the final frontier to all of humanity. At Bigelow Aerospace, we're building the future today!

Skinwalker Ranch.org

Skinwalker Ranch is a ranch located in the Uintah Basin of Utah; it is the site of a series of paranormal activities. The ranch is supposed to cover 480 acres relatively near to the Utah cities of Roosevelt and Vernal. Its name comes from the "Skinwalker", a supernatural being in Ute folklore. The paranormal activity at Skinwalker Ranch has been intermittent, but according to sources, the alleged activity encountered is unusual or unidentified aircraft, balls of light, poltergeist activity, cattle mutilation, and strange creatures. have been reported.

Robert Bigelow of Bigelow Aerospace is the current owner of the ranch. The research there is co-funded by several grey/black operations. My current understanding is that YES there is a current iniative to conduct ALOT more research in the area and that a new team (more members) are being deployed. Although NIDS is dissolved the parent group Bigelow Aero is still very very active on the property. The rumor is that the activity is currently extremely active and the end of the month should be phenomonal. I wish i could be there.

MUFON to receive major funding from billionaire backer (Robert Bigelow)

Billionaire real estate investor and entrepreneur Robert Bigelow of Las Vegas is now betting his bucks on MUFON to find valuable new knowledge about alien propulsion systems.

Bigelow, who has long been known to give millions of dollars to fund serious UFO research, has just concluded a deal with MUFON whereby he will supply this organization with whatever it needs to be able to go out and bring back the hard evidence, not only to document the reality of UFOs interacting with us, but most importantly to gather the kind of information that will truly advance scientific understanding of this phenomenon.

So we have a woo billionaire who is researching alien propulsion systems (UFO) at a ranch he bought which is known for paranormal activity? It's like a real life adventure novel. Tally ho!

 

[madurobob]

Oh ****.

My mother grew up in Utah, on her father's ranch near Roosevelt and Vernal (adjacent to the Ute Indian Reservation where he ran the trading post). The ranch was sold years ago, but I still hold the mineral rights (and receive several $K/year from oil leases that have never been acted on).

I'm planning a trip out there next summer to check out the old homestead. Now I have another reason to be excited about it!

(ETA - and if the oil ever hits and I become a billionaire, I'm buying one of Bigelow's alien-powered craft to buzz Vegas with)

 

[bryan]

Bigelow has not only started working with MUFON, but they have hired field teams to respond to "U.F.O. incidents" with Bigelow funded air travel, vehicles, and "response equipment" to document reported U.F.O. sightings, and collect "Evidence".
Many of the U.F.O. nuts that have been involved in MUFON are now bragging about how they are professional U.F.O. Investigators.
Bigelow has also been a supporter of the Denver E.T. Commission and all of it's supporters.
When you look at the people involved it is a mix of related groups working as different companies (Bigelow, MUFON,The Disclosure Project, The Orion Project, CsETI, U.F.O. ThinkTank, and many more)
It all comes down to believers trying to prove something without any evidence.
Steven Hawiking said it best "I am discounting reports or U.F.O.'s. Why would they appear only to cranks and weirdos? If there is a government conspiracy to suppress the reports and keep for itself the scientific knowledge the aliens bring, it seems to have been a singularly ineffective policy so far".

 

[RecoveringYuppy]

Bigelow is also connected with the guy that Geller fooled:

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/vision_remota/esp_visionremota_5.htm

 

[Tiktaalik]

I live near there, but I don't think they're letting anyone visit it right now. Otherwise, skeptic trip would occur...

 

[vwgub]

small point

Skinwalker is not from Ute folklore it is from Navajo folklore.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skin-walker

 

[hamelekim]

This is from years ago. I have the book written by George Knapp and some other guy. By the time George got out there the paranormal events has pretty much died out.

It would be a waste for a skeptic to go now as they would see nothing, and the believers would expect nothing as well.

NIDS is dead and they pretty much don't do anything on the ranch anymore. They have a caretaker and that's about it.

 

[HarryHenderson]

Skinwalker is not from Ute folklore it is from Navajo folklore.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skin-walker

Actually, based on your own link, not entirely. There's mention of it in Hopi and Lakota 'folklore' also. I say 'mention' because very little of the article has direct citations.

As for this particular topic, it's kinda funny all the 'activity' ceased when George Knapp showed up. I'm quite familiar with him as a respected 'newsman' in Las Vegas and I'm sure that although he might have a tendency to be a bit of a creduloid regarding certain super-para-un-natural phenomena, I do believe he's more a 'truth seeker' than anything else. I know he's convinced 'something' was going on there, he's just not sure what.

Not sure how coincidental it is that Bigelow also hails from Las Vegas, not that it matters really. He's surely financially capable of getting to the bottom the story, if that's his real goal. It seems he does have a bent for the paranormal, but I've never used that as a true gauge of intelligence or capability and he appears to have a willingness to learn. Despite even my own sometimes opinions to the contrary, anyone that makes a billion dollars (throught their own 'hard work') is not and cannot be considered stupid.

 

[neltana]

So, at first I thought the skinwalker ranch link was for the ranch itself...and I thought it was odd that they would say "The ranch is supposed to cover 480 acres relatively near to the Utah cities of Roosevelt and Vernal." Wouldn't they know how many acres they had?

Then I realized that this was a website about the ranch. It appears to be run by the Hyper-Anamolous Expedition Research Organization. They run expeditions to watch paranormal activity around this hotbed of paramornal activity.

We investigate and research verified reports and sightings of anamolous activity while protecting those involved. In addition we offer expeditions (by invitation) for others to experience this firsthand including lodging, use of gear, transportation, and a quality experience which can only come from being in the thick of the anamolous daily. Finally a research group situated in Utah's famous Uintah Basin. A hotbed for UFO's, many types of craft, crypto-odditites and high strangeness have been reported in this area for years.

Not your average research organization. These are not average expeditions. These are intense and sometimes physically demanding expeditions which are dedicated to the hardcore researcher.

(snip)

Lodging for all of our guests researching the Uintah Basin is included courtesy of Strawberry River Bed and Breakfast

My, my...that does seem hardcore.

Like I have often said, Scooby-Doo got it wrong. Monsters and weird lights in the sky attract paying customers, they don't scare them away!

 

[makaya325]

I will tell you this right now: Skinwalker ranch is very, very, very creepy

 

[jakesteele]

Oh ****.

My mother grew up in Utah, on her father's ranch near Roosevelt and Vernal (adjacent to the Ute Indian Reservation where he ran the trading post). The ranch was sold years ago, but I still hold the mineral rights (and receive several $K/year from oil leases that have never been acted on).

I'm planning a trip out there next summer to check out the old homestead. Now I have another reason to be excited about it!

(ETA - and if the oil ever hits and I become a billionaire, I'm buying one of Bigelow's alien-powered craft to buzz Vegas with)

I'll agree with everything you ever say in these debates if you'll just please take me with. You can be Jed and I'll be Jethro.

 

[madurobob]

I'll agree with everything you ever say in these debates if you'll just please take me with. You can be Jed and I'll be Jethro.

[jed]
Weeeeel doggy, jethro! This here flying machine is faster than ol Duke after a sip of Granny's rheumatiz medicine!
[/jed]

I wonder if the Skinwalker ranch turns out to be next door to my grandparent's old place, if I could wander on to it "accidentally" without being shot?

 

[makaya325]

[jed]
Weeeeel doggy, jethro! This here flying machine is faster than ol Duke after a sip of Granny's rheumatiz medicine!
[/jed]

I wonder if the Skinwalker ranch turns out to be next door to my grandparent's old place, if I could wander on to it "accidentally" without being shot?

Which reminds me, ever heard of the "Bullet-proof wolf"? Sounds like a kick-arse word!

 

[madurobob]

Which reminds me, ever heard of the "Bullet-proof wolf"? Sounds like a kick-arse word!

yes, and I've hard of the "rancher who can't hit the broadside of a barn", too!

I used to read rense.com quite a bit, and when I first read about this "skinwalker" thing several years ago I asked my mother and uncle about it. They were born and raised on the Ute reservation, so I figured they'd at least know something about this great Ute myth.

Neither of them had heard of the word "skinwalker" and neither of them knew of any spooky legends about strange happenings at a nearby ranch. Both had the presence of mind to point out that they left Utah in the mid 50s before the reports of strange UFO activity apparently started - and that wasn't it a coincidence that these reports started about the same time Hollywood started pumping out UFO movies?

 

[makaya325]

Regardless whether the story is real, It still makes up for a good campfire story! Just image shooting something like that and not seeing a drop of blood? Perhaps something like that can manipulate the law's of physics!

Speculation...so much fun

 

[madurobob]

Sure, but I gotta tell ya, if I was sitting around a fire with my buds telling them a similar story they would laugh at me. The first thing out of anyone's mouth, after the laughter died down, would be "you missed".

In fact, over in the hunting story thread I tell a story about the bulletproof deer...

 

[makaya325]

Sure, but I gotta tell ya, if I was sitting around a fire with my buds telling them a similar story they would laugh at me. The first thing out of anyone's mouth, after the laughter died down, would be "you missed".

In fact, over in the hunting story thread I tell a story about the bulletproof deer...

Just remember: Bulletproof animals only appear in fuzzy conditions, and can transform! Take that skeptics!

 

[skinwalker]

hi guys i'm glad i had the chance to join this forum. I operate the aforementioned skinwalkerranch dot org website, and oddly I am a skeptic at heart regarding the paranormal in general. The ranch has changed my views due to the amount of personal events i and others have witnessed and the outside influences on the ranch. I can try my best to answer any questions and do appreciate hopefully a open minded forum.

 

[Nonpareil]

hi guys i'm glad i had the chance to join this forum. I operate the aforementioned skinwalkerranch dot org website, and oddly I am a skeptic at heart regarding the paranormal in general. The ranch has changed my views due to the amount of personal events i and others have witnessed and the outside influences on the ranch. I can try my best to answer any questions and do appreciate hopefully a open minded forum.

Welcome! Glad to have you with us!

So what kinds of things have you personally seen there? It would be interesting to have a firsthand account.

 

[skinwalker]

I realize i'm on a skeptical forum and i just dont want to be met with jeers and mocking. I can tell you what i've seen and i'm open minded enough to consider other plausible answers for them from a rational point of view.

I have seen....

1. The most significant must be the flashing strobing balls of light, witnessed about 12 of these above the ranchhouse, they grew in intensity and knocked out power to the house. Through the night vision i could NOT determine the shape or structure of the balls of light when they would "power down"... Two of these lights they flew 1/3 of a mile to our position flashed over our heads at a distance of about 20 feet, completely silent. They then landed on the ground and put off a brilliant flash. We duck and hid, finally got courage to peek above the rock we were hiding behind to see what horror was awaiting us, only to find a thick black swirling smoke like cloud which became a wolf. The wolf stood no more than 10 feet (if not closer) from us. For the next 3 minutes the wolf did noting other than stare at us intently, no growling or aggressive nature was observed. It then walked behind a rock and dissapeared (likely just walked away into the darkness). In the same position were the wolf was now a porcupine approached us and did the exact same gesture. It stood up on its too feet and stared at us for a good 5 minutes and took the same exit path as the wolf and walked away. Security personal then decended on our position and forced us to immediatly evacuate the area.

I have also heard what sounded like a large vehicle above my head with a single large blade swishing in a rotating fashion, but could see absolutely NOTHING above me. I also heard voices speaking in a Native American LIKE dialect above my head during this episode near the ranch. My brother positioned 2 miles away also heard the rotating blade above his head moments later after it passed me but he too could not see the source.

My friends have had violent episodes of being ill after spending time near the ranch or after a close encounter sighting. I'm skeptical but they describe it like some sort of posioning or ill effects from being close to some of these ...whatever they are out there.

There are countless stories on my website. I try to avoid the stories in the book and prefer first hand encounters. I've had many other experiences out there, such as the entire nighttime field became like daylight for about 20 seconds as if a large screen had opened in the sky.

We have taken countless skeptics to the area only to have them beg to take them out of there and they had no idea it was actually real. I still have only theories and guesses what the hell is going on in that region but no clear idea yet...