bigfoot is real I have the proof

[mikeyx]

just to piss you off mike !

this isn't a personal attack how?

I'm not the one making claims bud.

 

[mikeyx]

No drew thats not true all I ever wanted was the truth to come out . Maybe he will maybe he wont thats up to him if he wants them on his site then I come with them . If not well I guess you wont be seeing them unless he posts them anyway and I dont think he would do that .

maybe try rereading all the parts about selling the photo. It was at least at first about profit. I suspect it still is. There's alway ebay ya know...

 

[madurobob]

I submit the following: at this point, who cares?

I am amazed at how this thread has not simply devolved to one long string of profanities. Thats all that comes to mind as I continue to follow this saga.

Y'all are all far better people than I.

 

[Ladewig]

Since CF and you have an apologist for some reason I'll go one step further than above;

His illiteracy is inconsistent and suspect: As in: he's a scammer and if you're defending him, figure it out......

I have read this post several times and still cannot understand what you meant.

My position from the very start was that Creekfreak displayed no honestly at all and was posting in this board simply to get attention and to yank chains. I still hold that position. I have never defended him in any way.

 

[Biscuit]

After 29 pages and reading this from day one I want to see these pics. Obviously I do not expect to see proof of bigfoot but rather an end to all of this. I know CF will say he has bigfoot/woodpecker/spiderbear pics till he is blue in the face no matter what any experts say but I want a conclusion. Call me selfish.

 

[AudioFreak]

I have read this post several times and still cannot understand what you meant.

My position from the very start was that Creekfreak displayed no honestly at all and was posting in this board simply to get attention and to yank chains. I still hold that position. I have never defended him in any way.

I believe he was referring to ThunderFoot

 

[Creekfreak]

You seem to not understand something here . you people are the ones that keep bringing up saleing it not me . I was warned in the begaining not to try and sale them here and I havent sence then go back and read . I have given them up for free so what does any thing you say about saleing it matter ? Your just running off on something petty and useless .

 

[Locknar]

After 29 pages and reading this from day one I want to see these pics. Obviously I do not expect to see proof of bigfoot but rather an end to all of this. I know CF will say he has bigfoot/woodpecker/spiderbear pics till he is blue in the face no matter what any experts say but I want a conclusion. Call me selfish.

Well...speaking in a strictly scientific sense...if he can not provide documentation that supports his claims, they do not exist; it is really as straight foward as that.

As poorly as he has handled these "pics"; the question really becomes one of did he really take them at all, or are they simply edited pictures of a chopper that he/someone downloaded.

 

[AudioFreak]

You seem to not understand something here . you people are the ones that keep bringing up saleing it not me . I was warned in the begaining not to try and sale them here and I havent sence then go back and read . I have given them up for free so what does any thing you say about saleing it matter ? Your just running off on something petty and useless .

So then why don't you just post the damn pictures? I don't see the problem.

 

[Creekfreak]

Dr Geoff Hill at Auburn University (the link I provied) is doing just that; a real, documented study...I suggest you take at look at the link I provided, and contact him; that is after you get your film developed.

Personally I could care less about it; just pointing you to someone (ie. Dr Hill) who may. Of course, him being a real researcher, he'll want actual documentation....location, date, time, camera/film settings, chain of custody (wrt the film and camera), etc.

ETA: WRT intellectual honesty, or dishonesty rather…you claimed you have pictures of this bird, yet a few posts later admit these “pictures” are on as of yet undeveloped film? So the reality is, you have no idea if you have pictures of anything at all….

Thank you lock you may have helped me more then you will ever know I think I will contact the good doctor .

 

[mikeyx]

You seem to not understand something here . you people are the ones that keep bringing up saleing it not me . I was warned in the begaining not to try and sale them here and I havent sence then go back and read . I have given them up for free so what does any thing you say about saleing it matter ? Your just running off on something petty and useless .

Not petty, not useless and oh so relevant, you even admit to the sales pitch here. fact is, you were out for the money, changing your mind because the mods made you doesn't negate the fact you tried to sell it in the first place. That was the first red flag in any attempt to give you the benefit of the doubt.

 

[Creekfreak]

Its not in my hands anymore freak You guys won that round you got them for free what more do you want blood ?

 

[Normal Dude]

I think interest in the photos has waned. Whatever they are, few care anymore imo.

Well then my work here is done.

Have a gas, fellas.

 

[Creekfreak]

Trying to make money does not make a man dishonest mikey not smart maybe for the way he goes about it but not dishonest .

 

[Locknar]

Its not in my hands anymore freak You guys won that round you got them for free what more do you want blood ?

Does this mean you have removed the conditions you placed on DK, ie. reinstatement back into MABRC for posting the pics?

 

[catbasket]

with all due respect my friend, he came here trying to perpetuate a hoax if not a scam, has more or less turned on one of his experts and frankly I don't feel he deserves much understanding at this point.

I hear and understand. My initial thoughts were much as yours but, as I said previously, re-reading the entire thread made me change my opinion somewhat - I believe he may well have been hoaxed himself over the photos by friends/colleagues. I'm probably wrong ...

As to Creekfreak's posts which suddenly appear to have better spelling, grammar and punctuation - the impression I got was that these were cut'n'pastes of other peoples' comments, but with no quote tags or other indication that they were someone else's words ... several make absolutely no sense (yeah, I know!) unless you assume that he's quoting someone else.

Again, I could well be wrong ... no doubt someone will now link to a CF post where he's obviously not quoting someone else, but types in near-perfect English.

It would appear I was feeling unnaturally mellow in the early hours of this morning, but it was a really nice bottle of Merlot

I've got to go do some DIY now but will be dropping back later to check on developments ... maybe we'll even have some hi-res unaltered photos to examine (that's the proverbial triumph of optimism over experience, for ya!)

 

[Locknar]

Thank you lock you may have helped me more then you will ever know I think I will contact the good doctor .

Before doing so...I STRONGLY SUGGEST:
- Get the pictures developed
- Documentation; date, time, camera settings, location, chain of custody, etc.
- Get a book on professional/business writting, and have someone help you; if you write Dr Hill in the same manner you did the FL State folks, I can all but guarentee you will get no response.

 

[mikeyx]

Its not in my hands anymore freak You guys won that round you got them for free what more do you want blood ?

The truth doesn't always show up with a bouquet of roses freak, you just tried to deny trying to sell them and practically admitted that you in the same post.

 

[darkwing]

I will state quite plainly on this for everyone. I have received a set of 13 out of 14 pictures that is related to this whole episode. I also received Creek's permission to post them, if I agree to his conditions.

In all fairness to me, I am going to list those conditions here for everyone.

1. His real name on the copyright on the pics........I agree to
2. Disable the right click option on the pics...........I agree to
3. Reinstatement into the MABRC........................I don't agree to.

I have no problem hosting the photos so everyone can see them, but I will not risk the integrity of the researchers in the MABRC by letting Creek back in just to host his photos. And if I post the photos without Creek's permission, then my integrity takes a massive hit and other folks will be less inclined to send their photos to me in the future.

If this is ever going to end, Creek is going to have to forget about conditions and just let the pictures be posted. Like I said, I will agree to the first 2, but the third one, no way.

 

[mikeyx]

Trying to make money does not make a man dishonest mikey not smart maybe for the way he goes about it but not dishonest .

spin doctoring doesn't help the obvious:

You claimed you had real pictures of a real squatch, you wanted to sell them, then were told you couldn't, it was against the rules. Then you claimed you had experts and copyrights:

One expert debunked you, plaster copyright of a photoshopped picture with your screen name is legally a joke

and then turning on your expert when he debunks the photo doesnt help either....

I think that covers most of it, and we have yet to see any pictures that are remotely compelling. So....
less spin, less shuck n' jive, more proof and your efforts seem to have tanked.