Bigfoot Encounters.

All those sightings, dating back to the 1800's even. Surely someone has found a corpse by now?

Unless the bigfoots are actually aliens...and they go back to the mothership to die. Duh. I can't believe no one has thought of this before :rolleyes:
 
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Irrefutable proof!!!!!

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Uh, never mind.
 
You can view the original CBC Television's The Fifth Estate 1976 broadcast.

Tracking Sasquatch

Rene Dahinden was probably Canada's only full-time Sasquatch hunter. Since 1957 the Swiss immigrant's sole pursuit was to seek out the legendary hairy giant of the B.C. forest. He took hundreds of footprint casts and owned a share of the world's only Sasquatch film, but never managed to catch a glimpse of the beast. Even so, Dahinden was convinced the Sasquatch is real. "I will keep on searching 'til I find the damn thing," he told CBC Television's The Fifth Estate in 1976.
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This is one of my favorite topics, and one of the few woo things that I actually ... well, don't believe in, but it could be possible. No supernatural, paranormal explanation required to explain bigfoot. If it exists, it's just a very, vary rare and elusive animal.

I really do think that the wooded areas of the Pacific Northwest are big enough that it is possible that there could be a large primate species hiding out there quite successfully. If you disagree, I would say that you probably don't have any idea how really BIG the uninhabited areas are out there. Kind of like creation science folk who don't believe in evolution because they just don't have any idea how really LONG five billion years is, and how many things can happen in that long of a period of time.

Finding bodies of animals is unusual in large wooded areas (thousands of square miles). Finding the body of a rare and maybe somewhat shy and intelligent animal would be even harder. Sure, I've found dead animals before in the woods, but not very often, and only of small rodents, of which there are many, and somewhat larger animals, like deer, of which there are also many.

But having said that, given that people have been reporting bigfoot for hundreds of years and we still haven't found a body ... and the times that people have seen it and had a camera and either got no photo or a very poor one, and the times when they had a rifle but just couldn't shoot it ... well, I can't calculate the odds, but it just seems very, very unlikely, making me fall on the side of thinking that it's more probable that bigfoot does not exist.

Possible .... sure. But possible doesn't means it's true. I just think that although it is possible, and would be a very exciting discovery if proven true, that the odds of bigfoot being real after all this time and all these sightings with no physical evidence resulting are very low.

Personally, if I had a gun and saw a bigfoot I can tell you the mystery would be solved that day. If you believe bigfoot exists, you probably think that it's very rare, and should be preserved and studied.

But it'll never happen. It probably just doesn't exist. Though it would be terribly interesting if it did.
 
Did it ever occur to anyone that those 3-toed southern bigfoot tracks could be a gator? I'm no expert in tracks, but when you think about it ...

As for the "regular" bigfoot casts, they're so easy to fake, dermal ridges and everything. You take a regular human footprint, make a cast, take a latex mold of the cast, soak it alcohol or something similar until it expands, take another mold, rinse, repeat. After a few sessions, you have an incredibly large human-like foot complete with scars and dermal ridges. You can mess around with the plaster cast as much as you want to in order to shift parts around and make it look different from humans as you want to.

People continually underestimate the ingenuity of fakers. People assume that no one except some kind of doctor in physiology could possible fake something like that. It's just not true. So track molds and funny hairs with no DNA and recordings of howls, although creepy, much like photos of UFOS, don't mean anything. They can be faked.

Give me some DNA or a corpse and then I'll believe you ... wait, I won't have to believe because I know it will be true then. You can fake a corpse, but it wouldn't stand up to close examination for more than 10 minutes. DNA evidence, though solid, is somewhat ephemeral. There's always someone who thinks that it gets contaminated (and it could be).

By the way, did you know that scientists recently published a study proving that all DNA, when degraded in quality or touched by anyone other than a defense attorney, suddenly turns into that of OJ Simpson? Weird!
 
jlam4911 said:
Unless the bigfoots are actually aliens...and they go back to the mothership to die. Duh. I can't believe no one has thought of this before :rolleyes:
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apparently some woo already came up with this idea :D

this guy

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from the link

"Stan has been recognized for his paper published in the 1974 MUFON UFO Symposium Proceedings titled "UFO's in Relation to Creature Sightings in Pennsylvania." This paper has been quoted extensively by other researchers worldwide yada yada blah blah"
 
Oh, hell yeah. I remember reading woo books back when I was a kid talking about bigfoot coming out of flying saucers, working on mysterious black boxes out in the woods, then disappearing into thin air. Then right after ... a flying saucer passed by overhead.

Sorry, can't remember the source, I'll have to see if I still have that book. I could be mistaken, but I think the book UFO Crash at Roswell by Kevin Randle and Don Schmitt has some anecdotes relating to bigfoot sightings and UFOS.

Ooooooohhh.....scary, kids!
 
More about Stan Gordon and his alien bigfoot hypothesis

csicop article

And you can tell he's a real woo because of:

"Johnson then unveiled his startling theory: Bigfoot is a "quantum animal" that moves freely between the real world as we know it and a "quantum world" outside the reach of conventional physical laws."
 
Red Siegfried said:
I really do think that the wooded areas of the Pacific Northwest are big enough that it is possible that there could be a large primate species hiding out there quite successfully. If you disagree, I would say that you probably don't have any idea how really BIG the uninhabited areas are out there.
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One thing that puzzles me is: people who seem to not be looking for the beast seem to find it, but then Rene Dahinden who searched for this creature most of his life, never even caught a glimpse of it.
 
You should check this out from the BFRO:

http://www.texasbigfoot.com/016_905.html

Tons of people out there with all sorts of recording equipment and the only people who saw the bigfoot conveniently didn't have any with them, after the expedition wrapped up.

How convenient ...

And I don't believe it for a second. Apparently bigfoot is smart enough to know not to show up when you have a camera around. Or something.

Edited to correct that the site is not BFRO, but it was an expedition linked to from the BFRO site:

http://www.bfro.net
 
Red Siegfried said:
You should check this out from the BFRO:

http://www.texasbigfoot.com/016_905.html

Tons of people out there with all sorts of recording equipment and the only people who saw the bigfoot conveniently didn't have any with them, after the expedition wrapped up.

How convenient ...

And I don't believe it for a second. Apparently bigfoot is smart enough to know not to show up when you have a camera around. Or something.

Edited to correct that the site is not BFRO, but it was an expedition linked to from the BFRO site:

http://www.bfro.net
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Obviously you don't know anything about quantum physics... Bigfoot was just hiding in his quantum world ;)
 
An interesting little treatise on why there aren't more photos of bigfoot, once again from BFRO:

http://www.bfro.net/gdb/show_FAQ.asp?id=412

Some good points, bad points, and debatable points here, but it's still my opinion that with more and more so called "professional" bigfoot hunters out there that someone would have gotten a good photo by now if it existed.

Once again, I still say that only a body or some really good DNA evidence will settle the question once and for all. And I'm not holding my breath.
 
From the link above:

"1) Very few people in rural areas keep a camera handy at all times."
What's with cell phone cameras? Almost everybody I know has one of these...

"2) Witnesses consistently describe initial confusion and fear during their sighting."
The same applies to witnesses of all kinds of crimes and natural disasters but still such events are well documented, often by amateurs.

I'll leave the rest of the claims since they all amount to "bigfoot is a sooper-secret animal which lives in a sooper-secret place". Nothing new, really. Where are the excrements? Where is the carcass?
 
plindboe said:
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The footprint on the left is actually that of an Emperor Penguin. It was taken from a museum model or something, and was a genuine hoax (??). Anyway, it's been debunked for some time now, and yet it still gets trotted out as "genuine Bigfoot" every now and then. You see, you should never let the facts get in the way of a good story.
 
SwissSkeptic said:
From the link above:

"1) Very few people in rural areas keep a camera handy at all times."
What's with cell phone cameras? Almost everybody I know has one of these...

"2) Witnesses consistently describe initial confusion and fear during their sighting."
The same applies to witnesses of all kinds of crimes and natural disasters but still such events are well documented, often by amateurs.

I'll leave the rest of the claims since they all amount to "bigfoot is a sooper-secret animal which lives in a sooper-secret place". Nothing new, really. Where are the excrements? Where is the carcass?
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Oh, they have bigfoot scat. Funny that when they analyze it, they always seem to find that the sample is too contaminated to draw any conclusions.

But to be fair, I only know two people out of hundreds that have a celphone camera. Still, your point is valid. That wascally bigfoot just always seems to evaporate in the presence of cameras, not that a photo would prove anything anyway. Show me the body and then I'll believe.
 
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