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I hate giving eyeballs to Bigfoot Evidence. They disgust me, just post any tripe they find, zero integrity.

But, I did write about the whole flap of last week. It actually turned out to be interesting that the Kinzua blobsquatch rode Melba's coattails.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/sharon-hill/bigsuit-and-bigroot_b_4044723.html

Also, my voice is a whisper among the brain busting din of media sasquatchery. I don't know why I bother. People only want the Weekly World News version of news these days.
 
I stopped watching/reading the news along time ago, most is just spin. I have no idea what is really happening in the world regarding more important topics other than bigfoot, and probably wouldn't even if I did utilize U.S. sources.
 
OntarioSquatch said:
Check this out https://www.thebookseller.com/news/yeti-title-genetics-professor.html
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A book, not a paper? In a journal?

That's interesting.

If your discovery is going to "change human history."

ETA: I think this might be publicist hyperbole, or should I say hope:
Mark Booth, publisher of Hodder & Stoughton’s Coronet imprint, has acquired world rights excluding America in the provisionally titled The Quest for the Yeti, A DNA Detective Story from agent Luigi Bonomi.

The Quest for the Yeti will describe Sykes' hunt for genetic traces of species whose existence remains scientifically unconfirmed, including the Yeti, the Sasquatch and Big Foot. For the most part the samples he has tracked down for analysis have turned out to be known species such as humans, bears or apes; however two samples taken towards the end of his quest will "change our understanding of human history," he says.
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Footers are gonna go ape. So to speak.
 
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lol. Sykes' book is based on his findings. According to shameless self-promoter Rhettman Mullis, the documentary will air very soon and the paper will be published soon after.
 
It's amazing...a good story about the yeti...

Bonomi said: "Professor Sykes is a world authority on genetics and what he has to say about Yetis will shock the world". Meanwhile Booth opined: "An author who is both world-leader in his subject, and can also tell a good story, is as rare as the Yeti".
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Luigi Bonomi Associates is bringing Karen Swan's Christmas at Claridges, a tale set in London and Italy, with UK and Commonwealth rights sold to Macmillan. Sarah Skye's Code Red Lipstick follows a teenage model-turned-spy investigating her father's death, with world rights signed by Scholastic. In non-fiction, former Capitol Hill press secretary Ion Valaskis examine how mistakes inform us in The Magnificent Mistake, on submission. End Game: Tipping Point for Planet Earth by Professor Tony Barnosky looks at our failing environment, with HarperCollins signing UK rights. Professor Bryan Sykes' The Yeti Enigma explores the yeti myth, with his surprising findings now on submission.
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http://www.thebookseller.com/news/frankfurt-book-fair-rights-preview-2.html

So Sykes is definitely selling a book then?
 
Book ready to go but paper nowhere in sight means that Sykes has no more than Meldrum, and possibly indicates that he's boarded the woo train.
 
The Shrike said:
Book ready to go but paper nowhere in sight means that Sykes has no more than Meldrum
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I completely agree. This suggests a big debunking of the whole field, in my view. In other words, he found nothing, but the story of finding nothing will be interesting enough.

The Shrike said:
and possibly indicates that he's boarded the woo train.
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I simply don't understand how you can get anywhere near drawing this conclusion from the few facts (are they facts?) that we have. You're a scientist, and so is Sykes. Dinwar tells us that you scientists are rather brutal with each other, but surely the brutality should only start once he (Sykes) actually says or publishes something?

There is also the odd circumstance in which it is conceivable that scpetics could be seen attempting to undermine Sykes prior to publication, and then when he publishes and says the whole idea is nonsense, everyone rushes back in an pats him on the back. In which case, the proponents would be very justified in saying......'well, you rubbished his credentials before he published ("woo train"), so obviously there is no need to take any notice of his work in debunking BF'

Mike
 
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MikeG said:
I simply don't understand how you can get anywhere near drawing this conclusion from the few facts (are they facts?) that we have. You're a scientist, and so is Sykes. Dinwar tells us that you scientists are rather brutal with each other, but surely the brutality should only start once he (Sykes) actually says or publishes something?
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Don't you think Sykes should definitely advise his agent to kibosh the ambiguous hyperbole.
 
idoubtit said:
That's a main selling gimmick. I think it's necessary or why would people be interested in the book?

I'm also of the opinion that he probably found something interesting in the new data sets about the human genome but did not find proof of Yeti.

http://doubtfulnews.com/2013/10/first-hint-of-sykes-yeti-book/
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Certainly it's the agent's job to hype the book. But this isn't a work of fiction (I hope) or a reality TV show and I feel the promotion could have been worded a bit differently

I have absolutely no opinion, nor clue, about what his discoveries might be
 
From my perspective Mike, Sykes peddling a book is a very Meldrum thing to do.

There are two directions one could take when a scientist peddles an ostensibly non-fiction work on bigfoot: either it will be a scathing criticism of bigfootery and an emphatic "there's no such thing" or it will pretend to be an honest, "open-minded" look into the phenomenon that plays right into the collective footer wheelhouse. The latter is classic Meldrum: "I'm not going to say bigfoot is really real, but there's some kind of creature out there leaving all these footprints. We really need science to take a look at this!"

So which approach is likely to move more paper?

Now if Sykes is using the Meldrum playbook, that means he's either playing the 'footers for saps - which is a pretty sleazy thing to do - or he's deluded himself into thinking he's really got something, even though it's clearly not something that can be legitimately published elsewhere.

So I'm sorry if I'm too cynical about this for your taste, but I haven't heard anything about Sykes' bigfoot project that has increased my confidence that he has approached this as a skeptical scientist should. Instead, I've heard rumors and hints that suggest quite the opposite to me.

I would love to be wrong about this but my experience in bigfootery hasn't provided many pleasant surprises.
 
The Shrike said:
From my perspective Mike, Sykes peddling a book is a very Meldrum thing to do. ........
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Or it could be a very Richard Dawkins thing to do, could it not? Or Steven Hawkins, or Steve Jones or Jerry Coyne? Lots of scientists do great science writing.

Sykes' previous books have been wonderful examples of good science writing for the literate masses. His Seven Daughters of Eve was great apart from the last silly 100 pages, and was based on science he published in the recognised way. I just don't see what you guys are worried about.
 
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OK, the last two samples will yield something like:

Evidence that Europeans were in North America long before any documented colonization.

Perhaps he will tie it in with the Bronze age copper mining in Michigan's Upper Peninsula or something.

In July 2012 Sykes was on Coast to Coast to discuss the following:

Professor of Human Genetics at the University of Oxford since 1997, Bryan Sykes, discovered how to extract DNA from human fossils. He'll discuss his DNA research in the U.S. which reveals European genes in Native Americans 10,000 years ago, as well as Jewish genes found in Hispanics in the Southwest.
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http://s3.zetaboards.com/Tranquility/topic/7545465/3/
 
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