Do legal types really advise against this sort of thing?
I find that really hard to believe that that sort of decision would fall anywhere other than with the editors, based on reviewer feedback.
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Do legal types really advise against this sort of thing?
I find that really hard to believe that that sort of decision would fall anywhere other than with the editors, based on reviewer feedback.
It's either sour grapes or a complete fabrication, neither of which reflect well on Ms. Ketchum.
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I'm betting Ketchum's report truly belongs in The Journal of Irreproducible Results. But rather than verify that hypothesis, I've decided to spend my $30 on a long-term supply of milk and Oreos--because, unlike Bigfoot, cows and non-hydrogenated vegetable oil actually exist.
CORed
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It seems to me that a publisher of science fiction and fantasy is exactly the right place for Meldrum to publish.
It probably falls more in the realm of fantasy than that of science fiction.
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at this very moment, in actual cash in my wallet. change bucket and savings account I have $9.58.........
$3,467 Zimbabwean dollars
do you get a t-shirt with that? with a picture of a medicine dropper and some test tubes?
if you get put on the list of authors on a paper like this (think Carnival Triumph) is it good or bad that they spell your name wrong? 2nd author "Dr." Pat "Wojtkiecicz" is Pat Wojtkiewicz, and may not be a doctor; he does use that title at times, but the only documentation I find is when asked under oath, he testified that he had a master's degree in science from Northwestern State [Louisiana]. I suppose he may have gotten a Ph.D. later.
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Sorry to disappoint you, but Zimbabwe has adopted the US dollar, and so the Zim dollar isn't legal tender there any more.
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hold on everybody, lets look at this sytematically
geeze, i knew this would happen, melbas spys informed her that I had a very busy day today, so it was time to release the hounds! Guys I have to administer 200 essay exams today, then guess what, I have to read them!
OK so I think we can and should go about this in a very systematic way, and many of you would be willing to pitch in a little of your time.
I suggest we start with the list of authors.
First thing we need to know is are all of the authors actually on board with this?
each should be contacted - IN A VERY POLITE WAY, either by email or phone. They should be asked 3 questions - VERY RESPECTFULLY,
1. are they aware they are listed as a co-author on this paper?
2. If so, can they tell you how they were involved? writing? analyzing the genome? preparing samples for sequencing? Doing the actual sequensing?
3. Do they realize the paper is claiming the existance of bigfoot, as a hibred human entity.
Thats it, no confrontation, no real followup (unless they want to talk, then you ought to listen closely).
I see that as step one of a very reasoned approach to examining this paper and it's extraordinary claims.
Going over and analyzing the data may take time, but first, lets examine the participation of the authors.
If anyone wants to tackle part of that, i guess just let me know, so we can divide up the work. We really do not need 15 people calling each and every one of them!
CWB
geeze, i knew this would happen, melbas spys informed her that I had a very busy day today, so it was time to release the hounds! Guys I have to administer 200 essay exams today, then guess what, I have to read them!
OK so I think we can and should go about this in a very systematic way, and many of you would be willing to pitch in a little of your time.
I suggest we start with the list of authors.
First thing we need to know is are all of the authors actually on board with this?
each should be contacted - IN A VERY POLITE WAY, either by email or phone. They should be asked 3 questions - VERY RESPECTFULLY,
1. are they aware they are listed as a co-author on this paper?
2. If so, can they tell you how they were involved? writing? analyzing the genome? preparing samples for sequencing? Doing the actual sequensing?
3. Do they realize the paper is claiming the existance of bigfoot, as a hibred human entity.
Thats it, no confrontation, no real followup (unless they want to talk, then you ought to listen closely).
I see that as step one of a very reasoned approach to examining this paper and it's extraordinary claims.
Going over and analyzing the data may take time, but first, lets examine the participation of the authors.
If anyone wants to tackle part of that, i guess just let me know, so we can divide up the work. We really do not need 15 people calling each and every one of them!
CWB
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Allegedly Melba pulled the video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=khHSX3ZYaKI
It no longer works.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=khHSX3ZYaKI
It no longer works.
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another thing to check out
this on line journal, and it is labled as a scientific journal" so it must be.
anyway it has some spectacular photos on the cover
http://www.denovojournal.com/#!journals/c10d6
anyone here have to ability and inclination to track down those images on the web, I suspect they will be stock photos fro sale by professional photographers, and the photographer would certainly be thrilled to hear from you complementing hi or her magnificent work displayed on the cover!
Unless of course the jornal neglected to pay for the images!
this on line journal, and it is labled as a scientific journal" so it must be.
anyway it has some spectacular photos on the cover
http://www.denovojournal.com/#!journals/c10d6
anyone here have to ability and inclination to track down those images on the web, I suspect they will be stock photos fro sale by professional photographers, and the photographer would certainly be thrilled to hear from you complementing hi or her magnificent work displayed on the cover!
Unless of course the jornal neglected to pay for the images!
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When you click on the image info it says that they don't provide information for ownership of the image. But if you click on the HTMl for the image it says Wix , which lets you create your own free do it yourself web site. Probably a stock image from there.
It does say this in the Wix user agreement though:
dditional Prohibited Uses
In addition to all the above prohibitions, you agree that you will NOT knowingly use the Service, among other things, to:
(a) harm minors in any way;
(b) impersonate any person or entity, or falsely state or otherwise misrepresent your affiliation with a person or an entity;
It does say this in the Wix user agreement though:
dditional Prohibited Uses
In addition to all the above prohibitions, you agree that you will NOT knowingly use the Service, among other things, to:
(a) harm minors in any way;
(b) impersonate any person or entity, or falsely state or otherwise misrepresent your affiliation with a person or an entity;
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The Kingfisher photo is from http://www.freedigitalphotos.net/images/Birds_g52-Kingfisher_p72957.html
The Panda http://www.freedigitalphotos.net/images/Other_Mammals_g67-Panda_p43576.html
Note: They are not free, you have to attribute them. And pay for certain usage.
The Panda http://www.freedigitalphotos.net/images/Other_Mammals_g67-Panda_p43576.html
Note: They are not free, you have to attribute them. And pay for certain usage.
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Author check update
just to keep things organized, we have talked with Prychitco, and Wojtkiecicz.
Prychitco did some sequencing, is aware of the paper, but did no analysis or writing of the paper. He has a private lab, but they only do the old school sequensing - the sanger technologies.
Wojtkiecicz is aware of the paper, had not seen any recent versions, and had resized and reformatted some images for melba, who he has known for a long time. he also apparently worked on 4 or 5 samples, but could not get DNA from them, apparently he was using a kit that was specific to human. he has not seen anything since Melba went next gen .
We are currently efforting Bollinger, Watts, and Toler.
Still a few names to be checked on!
Thats where we stand right now!
just to keep things organized, we have talked with Prychitco, and Wojtkiecicz.
Prychitco did some sequencing, is aware of the paper, but did no analysis or writing of the paper. He has a private lab, but they only do the old school sequensing - the sanger technologies.
Wojtkiecicz is aware of the paper, had not seen any recent versions, and had resized and reformatted some images for melba, who he has known for a long time. he also apparently worked on 4 or 5 samples, but could not get DNA from them, apparently he was using a kit that was specific to human. he has not seen anything since Melba went next gen .
We are currently efforting Bollinger, Watts, and Toler.
Still a few names to be checked on!
Thats where we stand right now!
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