Bigfoot DNA

[LTC8K6]

I thought there were a bunch of different types of sasquatch anyway.

 

[C_Felix]

Lets assume there is a bigfoot.
We manage to get some blood off of something
(I remember an episode of Monster Quest. A cabin in the deep woods of Alberta was broken into a few times, usually through the front door. The man thought it was a bear. What he did was take a 3x3 foot piece of plywood, and screw in about 100 screws so the head was flush. He placed this in the front of the door with the screws up with the hope that anything that stepped on it (bear or bigfoot) would get hurt and scared off. There was some dried blood type of goo stuff in one of the threads of the screw. Lets assume we get a nice fresh sample off of one of the screws.)

If we get this nice fresh sample and test it, the test would be inconclusive, wouldn't it?
We have nothing to compare it to.
We can't look at it like we would a dog's sample and be able to nail it down as a dog...
Know what I mean?

It wouldn't be inconclusive, it would be from an unclassified primate, or whatever bigfoot is.

Bigfoot, if real, would be a Primate. (Obviously)

So, if "we" manage to get a nice and new blood sample and it comes back as
*Primate, but we can't identify which primate
*Assuming this is in North America.
*If it was human, we'd be able to identify it, what other primate could/would it be?

Also...if this does happen, the spin (as always) will go both ways.
Anti-bigfoot, "It is inconclusive. A match couldn't be made."
Pro-bigfoot, "What else could it be! There's no other primate on the North American continent! Of course a match couldn't be made, we don't have a definitive bigfoot sample!"

 

[The Shrike]

Also...if this does happen, the spin (as always) will go both ways.
Anti-bigfoot, "It is inconclusive. A match couldn't be made."
Pro-bigfoot, "What else could it be! There's no other primate on the North American continent! Of course a match couldn't be made, we don't have a definitive bigfoot sample!"

It's possible to place that "unknown" sample in context by constructing a phylogenetic tree, a la figure 1 from Milinkovitch et al. 2004. Unless the sample itself is somehow compromised, there's no excuse for reporting on "bigfoot DNA" without producing a figure like this. It would be the whole point of the analysis because it would tell us exactly what that unknown thing is.

 

[William Parcher]

Crazyman Ed Smith is back holding court on the MABRC forum with dribblepus about Bigfoot DNA.

"PRJ-082110-82-01A-Y210 North American Ape Genome Project"

What the hell is that... a serial number?

The samples will remain the property of the contributors which means that since the testing process will destroy the sample, we will issue a certification of the genetic base pairs or nucleotides will be sent to the contributors and this will serve as there claim to the sample dataset.

Ah yes, the samples will be destroyed. We wouldn't want any nasty attempts at replication of results.

 

[Óðinn]

Or cloning!!

 

[Drewbot]

Imagine the lab testing we could do on them thar bigfoots. being close to humans and all.

 

[Óðinn]

Isn't that what bigfoots are, experiments?

 

[Drewbot]

Wut? wut? speerments? no, the Bigfoot is alien recon. That iz why he is so hard to find.

 

[DennyT]

Paulides and Ketchum seem to to hit a snag. Wonder what it could be...lulz
http://www.triplicate.com/20110218111480/News/Local-News/The-smoking-gun

" While the book released in 2009 was being written, NABS was in the beginning stages of hair sample analysis.

A letter about a preliminary laboratory analysis of Stewart’s sample was published in the book.

The letter states that an expert examined the hair and found it to be from an animal of primate origin.

Since then, dozens more hair samples have been submitted for evaluation, and NABS hopes to have results soon, Paulides said.

The research has taken longer than expected due to the complexity of genetically tracing the hairs, Paulides said.

“That’s probably one of the reasons no one has tried to jump through the hurdles that we’re jumping through,” said Paulides. “It’s much more complicated than anyone thought.”

Paulides anticipates having the analysis completed within the next six months.

The work will be published in a report written by a group of scientists who will scrutinize the findings, Paulides said. "

 

[The Shrike]

The work will be published in a report written by a group of scientists who will scrutinize the findings, Paulides said. "

A "report" huh? Sounds like they're giving up on a journal article submission. I can't imagine why . . .

 

[DennyT]

Yes u can
I predict a falling out between Paulides and Ketchum when the latter realizes that the specimens she has been analyzing are all Native Americans. May have already happened. Popcorn.

 

[DennyT]

Just to recap, the announcement came back in August:
" ...Paulides...has been busy collecting bone and hair samples of purported Bigfoot. His research has led him into DNA evaluation of these samples.
Paulides and...Ketchum have found that some samples appear to have both human and animal characteristics.
Ketchum believes that very shortly she will have the final conclusions to the DNA testing. Then the results will be submitted for peer review..."

 

[Mister Earl]

Then the results will be submitted for peer review..."

I wonder if they mean "Scientific peer review via reputable journal" or "looked over by other 'footers."

 

[GT/CS]

Sorry, I haven't been following his road show, where did he get bone samples?

 

[DennyT]

The bone

Paulides has been rather secretive, and using some common sense I assume that he is hiding something for a reason. I assume for obvious reasons that it wasn't from the skeleton of a Sasquatch that they found in the woods. I assume that he obtained it in a tribal community. I assume it is a human relic. I imagine that being an ex cop Paulides knows the pitfalls associated with obtaining human remains and that is why he is playing it close to the vest. Paulides has a history of questionable ethics so I have pretty low expectations.

 

[GT/CS]

It must be human because we all know that bigfoot bones disolve in the soil.

 

[LTC8K6]

Gee...I wonder if they forgot that they are primates?

 

[dafydd]

Bigfoot, if real, would be a Primate. (Obviously)

A man in an ape suit is a primate.

 

[LTC8K6]

I notice the claim about the hairs being caught on barbs on the fence, but the fence shown wouldn't have any barbs...

 

[AlaskaBushPilot]

That's true, but I have a fence just like that to keep smaller animals out of the chickens. The bears still bust through. Also I joined two 4' tall sections with wire to make it 8' tall, and that's where even a committed large dog can wriggle through. The little nubs of wire can catch hair, but I would prefer it ripped their balls off.

I noticed from the story he wuz growin' the good bud.

That would be a powerful incentive to raid the farm by a long-haired hominid.