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HarryHenderson said:
The fact we, supposed 'smart people' here at the JREF, have 'seriously entertained the thought' of writing more than one or two words addressing this 'Bigfoot DNA' aspect - as if it deserves even one or two words - is what I can't believe. Sadly, this is the type of inane JREF thread (and there are many) where one proves they have way too much free time on their hands.
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I hear ya'. I've always been interested in Bigfoot. As a child I was a believer, now I'm a non-believer. The subject, however is still compelling. Mostly the human aspect: what makes people believe? Why? Why do they so need this hairy forest dweller to exist, to the point of believing the unbelievable, and even fabricating evidence? I have a feeling I'll never have answers. But, I'm a musician, so I've got loads of free time on my hands.
 
RioBravo said:
You know this how?
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That's my opinion. What's your opinion of the likelihood of it being the truth? That Human mtDNA didn't come from a human? That it came from a stable, fertile, robust hybrid of modern humans and something like a chimp, that human women are being held in Bigfoot clans, that they never escape, that they birth Bigfoots; that this source is reliable, that there even is a creature at all, that it possesses abilities beyond what could considered natural for a primate, that there is no tangible evidence for a real animal of such characteristics....

What is your opinion? That it "might" be true? All of it? Like, the Pope is going to ring your doorbell in the next 30 seconds and give you all the assets of the Catholic Church?
If I were you I wouldn't put off my golf game. Call me closed- minded.
 
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What a simple, poorly thought-through idea.
Here we have Bigfoot DNA that is manifestly Human, yet we have a creature with a flexible midfoot, gigantic, covered with hair, without apparent tool-use abilities.
What's more, the creatures have been stealing human women, raping them, raising the children as their own.
The humans never hunted down these monsters? never spitted their heads and displayed them on the way to their villages? never locked them up? never gathered a lynch mob and rounded up the lot of them? (a la Frankenstein)
 
Drewbot said:
What a simple, poorly thought-through idea.
Here we have Bigfoot DNA that is manifestly Human, yet we have a creature with a flexible midfoot, gigantic, covered with hair, without apparent tool-use abilities.
What's more, the creatures have been stealing human women, raping them, raising the children as their own.
The humans never hunted down these monsters? never spitted their heads and displayed them on the way to their villages? never locked them up? never gathered a lynch mob and rounded up the lot of them? (a la Frankenstein)
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Maybe if BF abducts a scientist's daughter....
 
Drewbot said:
What a simple, poorly thought-through idea.
Here we have Bigfoot DNA that is manifestly Human, yet we have a creature with a flexible midfoot, gigantic, covered with hair, without apparent tool-use abilities.
What's more, the creatures have been stealing human women, raping them, raising the children as their own.
The humans never hunted down these monsters? never spitted their heads and displayed them on the way to their villages? never locked them up? never gathered a lynch mob and rounded up the lot of them? (a la Frankenstein)
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I figure these early people just made impressionist drawings of them, howled, banged a tree or two and moved on. Apparently, we never learn.
 
atpeace said:
I figure these early people just made impressionist drawings of them, howled, banged a tree or two and moved on. Apparently, we never learn.
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Maybe the early humans felt sorry for the Bigfoots. After all, they have all of this muscle and grace, and have TERRIBLE aiming skills. I mean, those rocks never hit anybody.

Grug: LOOKOUT THORG! The Bigfoot is throwing rocks!!
Thorg: Yes, try and act frightened, he's got such atrocious aim, I kind of feel bad for the fellow.
Grug: <Hits the dirt> WHOA THAT WAS CLOSE! (The Rock lands woefully short)
Thorg: <Nudges Grug> Maybe they're just trying to WARN us! <Snicker>
 
Drewbot said:
Maybe the early humans felt sorry for the Bigfoots. After all, they have all of this muscle and grace, and have TERRIBLE aiming skills. I mean, those rocks never hit anybody.

Grug: LOOKOUT THORG! The Bigfoot is throwing rocks!!
Thorg: Yes, try and act frightened, he's got such atrocious aim, I kind of feel bad for the fellow.
Grug: <Hits the dirt> WHOA THAT WAS CLOSE! (The Rock lands woefully short)
Thorg: <Nudges Grug> Maybe they're just trying to WARN us! <Snicker>
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/wants Steve Martin to play Thorg
 
Deacondark said:
Here is an article http://www.cryptomundo.com/bigfoot-report/erickson-project-news-5/ on Cryptomundo that shows that the BBB gives Melba Ketchum's DNA Diagnostic business an "F" rating. There is even a list of complaints, a few of which show that she gave results that were not possible for the type of animal she was testing.
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Getting a complaint and dealing with it in a reasonable way and time frame is part of running a business in an ethical and successful way. 19 complaints to the BBB in two years. That's a lot. In most places the BBB is sort of a sham, such that many people never think of contacting them. So I would guess there are a lot more dissatisfied/defrauded customers who just threw up their hands.

One poster at Cryptomundo offered the "Oh, but Melba is so busy finding bigfoot DNA...." excuse.....sort of like Roger Patterson who never could get around to sending out his newsletter but kept the Boy Scouts' money anyway, at that of those who were stupid enough to send cash. Since Patterson had no bank account and everyone knew what he was up to, he couldn't cash checks. And soon someone will undoubtedly post the "even a hoaxer like Patterson/Ketchum can get lucky" mime.
 
The Shrike said:
Well, you know Parnassus, even a hoaxer like Ketchum can get lucky and have real bigfoot DNA. You gotta think about that.
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Too late:


"... BBB has nothing to do with the science of genetics, but rather the business end of the operation. DNA Diagnostics appears to have a slight problem getting it's work out on schedule (which conforms quite handily with the timeline on this project unfortunately).

NOTHING has been demonstrated to show that their DNA analyses are of poor quality, or that Dr Ketchum's credentials in DNA analysis are in question."
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(None of which is true, by the way.)
 
Actually, at least two of her complaints stated that the results obtained were impossible from the samples given. One said that, given the colors and markings of the cats the DNA was from there was no way they got the right results back, and that they had to have gotten samples mixed up. Not sure how far I'd trust her "lab".
 
There is a wealth of (dis)information on Robert Lindsay's blog concerning the shooting of two bigfoots in California. He roams from a government conspiracy to cover up bigfoot to black helicopters taking away the remains, yet in another post says that it was really two bears that were shot. There are several posts on his blog too numerous to link but just a hoot to read through. This is Creekfreak stuff all over again:rolleyes:
 
mustbeso said:
There is a wealth of (dis)information on Robert Lindsay's blog concerning the shooting of two bigfoots in California. He roams from a government conspiracy to cover up bigfoot to black helicopters taking away the remains, yet in another post says that it was really two bears that were shot. There are several posts on his blog too numerous to link but just a hoot to read through. This is Creekfreak stuff all over again:rolleyes:
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The sad thing is that Dfoot is putting his reputation* on the line over this insane story, yet he really can't verify it. He is just swallowing the whole story as it was told to him.
* Well, I mean, his reputation among the footers.
 
He is in the Olympic Project footer group, who are apparently putting out a lot of trailcams. He was contacted by one of the parties to the purported shootings and believes their story to be true. He seems to have advised these guys about what to do. Basically he seems to be vouching for them, but that's not his biggest problem. Being associated with killing a Bigfoot (I know...) is a mortal sin to many of the "heavily committed" bleevers....I seriously would not like to be in his shoes.
 
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