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Professor Todd Disotell did say her hybridization theory is plausible. While her paper is poorly written, analyses on the sequences that were provided seem to show something novel like she said, but with the self-published paper and all, who in the science community will believe that this DNA came from a Bigfoot?
 
MikeG said:
Just for the avoidance of doubt, is there anywhere in the ancient world where those 16 haplotypes may have co-existed?

I'm battling to think of any circumstances in which that could have happened, especially because of the native American haplotypes, but was there ever a melting-pot of people of mixed descent gathered in roughly the same place at roughly the same time?

Now, of course, I appreciate that for MK's theory to hold water, those disparate groups of people don't have to have lived proximately, nor even at the same time. Hybridisation could have been going on continuously in varied locations and over a long period of time, but we're then talking about a proto-sasquatch, a progenitor species (Homo heidlebergensis or some-such), not only surviving into the post-glacial era, but doing so in numbers large enough to breed with at least 16 distinct groups of humans, have their off-spring then gather together and migrate, whilst the progenitors then conveniently die off themselves.....and all without leaving anything in the fossil record, or any artefacts, or burials.

Since I first heard about this hybridisation theory, I have been far more interested in the assumed progenitor species than in its mongrel offspring. Is there a cave out there (presumably in Northern Europe) with Homo-something-or-other-but-not-sapiens bones which are only 10,000 to 15,000 years old, lying waiting to be discovered? Now THAT would be something to get excited about.......but I suspect it is highly unlikely.

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On the haplogroups, I can't imagine where in the prehistoric world you would get European, African, and East Asian (i.e. Native American) types all together. Some of the haplogroups she lists aren't even that old. For example her piece of the steak came back H1a. Now h1 as we've seen goes back to Ice Age Europe, but H1a didn't come into being until about 6000 years ago.

I've had great fun trying to come up with ways to make this hybrization thing work. Certainly some of the things we've learned in the last decade from the discoverey of Floresensis and Denisovan to the fact that a lot of "interbreeding" was going on, should tell us that there is still a great deal to be learned about Pleistocene humans.

One thing we've learned (and the Internet confirms this) is that humans will screw just about anything.
 
Resume said:
So just allowing Ketchum(DVM) the Soultrean hypothesis, wouldn't you expect to see either the hybrid, or the original . . . Squatch in the fossil record somewhere?
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Not necessarily. We had no examples of H. Floresensis or Denisovan until this decade. There are much bigger problems with this idea than the lack of fossil record.

Also if you go with the idea that the BF progentitor was an isolated population of one of the known hominins like Heidelbergensis that developed a crazy pituitary gland or something, then you could say they are already in the fossil record sort of.
 
theagenes said:
Not necessarily. We had no examples of H. Floresensis or Denisovan until this decade. There are much bigger problems with this idea than the lack of fossil record.
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I think the H1a steak (A1?) is one of those real problems. 6000 y/o versus the hypothesized 15,000 seems difficult to reconcile.
 
Hey, slow down Theagenes!!!! You've been here about 5 minutes and have 21 posts already. Other places need you!
 
I wouldn't take any of Dr. Ketchum's theories seriously. Just a few weeks before her recent interview she was talking about how Bigfoot are simply human beings that mutated. Which even she knows is impossible. It was a like a complete 180 turn from her hybrid theory.
 
Swenson, earlier:

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David H. Swenson
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Brien Foerster, Jeff Kart, and other interested parties. I went over the manuscript by Melba Ketchum on Bigfoot genomics. My desktop had difficulty with a blast analysis of the consensus sequences. It helped me understand more about the project. This collaborative venture has done a huge project that taxes me to fully grasp. I see interesting homology with a standard human sequence with 99% match for mitochondria. From my abbreviated study, the nuclear genome seems to have human and nonhuman sequences.

My opinion of the creature is that it is a hybrid of a human mother and an unknown hominid male, Just as reported. For all practical purposes, it should be treated as human and protected under law.

Brien, selection of Melba's lab for your studies is a very good call.

Sasquatch is real, as proven by genetic analysis.
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LTC8K6 said:
He actually said he couldn't run it, didn't he?
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In the Cryptomundo update he claimes he ran more blasts, human, and unknown, which he claims sounds like the independent labs. Which sounds like he might just be horse********.
 
TheJackal said:
...David Paulides missing person theory. The mystery North American ape has been abducting humans for 15,000 years, primarily of European descent, and "hybridizing" with the abductees...
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Is it Paulides theory, seriously? How could this mysterious North American ape have done that prior to the European immigration? Did it cross the Atlantic on a regular basis?... for a drink or a date?:confused:
 
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theagenes said:
To sum that wall of text:

They actually got two samples of human DNA from people descended from cavemen, i.e. most of us.

He though they got cavemen DNA.
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To put all of this another way, would the results look any different if Melba took some of her own (or someone else's) DNA and tested it?
 
Castro said:
Is it Paulides theory, seriously? How could this mysterious North American ape have done that prior to the European immigration? Did he cross the Atlantic on a regular basis?... for a drink or a date?:confused:
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Paulides in his book tries to postulate why people mysteriously disappear from our national parks and other outdoor locations. He doesn't come out and directly say it, but I believe he is implying that these abductions are Bigfoot related. It doesn't take much Footer logic to extrapolate this into the "hybrid" theory ... well, at least my appliction of Footer logic, but I am not intimate with all of the nuances. I guess with tongue in cheek, I am trying to weave together a coherent theory from the alternative universe that is Sasquatch.
 
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I see in the list of people who "actually collected" the samples and thanked by Dr. Ketchum, three persons whose first names are not given: a "P. Freeman,' a "W. Loughery" and a 'W. Sumerlin." Does Dr. Ketchum truly not know the first names of these men? Are we not supposed to recognize/find these people ? Please....

Let's give the late Paul Freeman (actually Leon Paul Freeman) and his pals the credit they deserve: they got Dr. Meldrum into the game. And Freeman's collection of purported bigfoot casts is, to say the least, hilarious.
 
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