Moderated Bigfoot- Anybody Seen one?

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Jodie said:
I can't really comment about your point since I'm not sure who the unique individuals are that you are talking about or what they said about torn muscles, I'm sorry.
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You don't remember seeing people talking about Patty's costume bulge as though it were a giant freaking leg hernia?
 
Jodie said:
I can't really comment about your point since I'm not sure who the unique individuals are that you are talking about or what they said about torn muscles, I'm sorry.
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Then how do you know there is a supposed debate?
 
gamecams in Santa Cruz Mountains show no bigfoots.
Videos and photos are instantaneously uploaded, thanks to a new wireless network infrastructure that covers almost the entire preserve – 1,200 acres in the Santa Cruz Mountains, 3 miles west of the Stanford campus.

Footage of skunks, possums, raccoons, mountain lions, deer, jackrabbits, hummingbirds, bobcats and many others sheds light on the wonderful biodiversity in the preserve.

"We are getting all of the types of animals that we expect to find in the area, including some that we don't often see in person, such as the gray fox, which is rarely seen in the daytime at Jasper Ridge," said Trevor Hebert, data manager at the biological preserve.

"The video cameras are giving us a picture of a world that we never see," he said.

Mostly, the cameras capture animals going about their regular nightly business, usually walking or running. "The typical skunk, coyote, bobcat, gray fox, possum, raccoon or rabbit seems to move at between a brisk walk and a jog almost constantly, at least when traveling," said Hebert.
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GT/CS said:
Then how do you know there is a supposed debate?
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It's obvious that she/he does know, that's the funny part. Well, that and the fact that some of you guys have been played like the sticky old poker game console down at the corner 7-Eleven for the last several pages. :D

This is obviously a selectively closeted and experienced believer having fun playing a novice, agendaless fence-sitter who could possibly go either way with a bunch of skeptics on the JREF Forum. How embarrassing that some of those skeptics are willing to make a serious attempt to guide this person down the path of truth and enlightenment.

These sort of shenanigans are nothing new for the die-hard bigfoot believer. In fact, while serving as a moderator on the BFF V.1, confronting these sort of BS "Us against Them" games is one of the main reasons that I became so unpopular with the believers, resulting in my being labeled(and subsequently shunned) as one of those "Meaniehead Skeptics".
 
parnassus said:
gamecams in Santa Cruz Mountains show no bigfoots.

Videos and photos are instantaneously uploaded, thanks to a new wireless network infrastructure that covers almost the entire preserve – 1,200 acres in the Santa Cruz Mountains, 3 miles west of the Stanford campus.

Footage of skunks, possums, raccoons, mountain lions, deer, jackrabbits, hummingbirds, bobcats and many others sheds light on the wonderful biodiversity in the preserve.

"We are getting all of the types of animals that we expect to find in the area, including some that we don't often see in person, such as the gray fox, which is rarely seen in the daytime at Jasper Ridge," said Trevor Hebert, data manager at the biological preserve.

"The video cameras are giving us a picture of a world that we never see," he said.

Mostly, the cameras capture animals going about their regular nightly business, usually walking or running. "The typical skunk, coyote, bobcat, gray fox, possum, raccoon or rabbit seems to move at between a brisk walk and a jog almost constantly, at least when traveling," said Hebert.
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Yes, but...

Footage of skunks, possums, raccoons, mountain lions, deer, jackrabbits, hummingbirds, bobcats and many others sheds light on the wonderful biodiversity in the preserve.
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This is obviously a loophole which was intentionally included to allow for the Bigfoot creatures which are running all over the place in the Santa Cruz Mountains.
 
Volsquatch, the other loophole, is that the nasty scientists HAVE probably photographed bigfoot, but are holding back the photos, so that real, good, forward thinking scientists, won't be able to write a paper about the creature.
 
Yes, and you will never see the photos unless you're friends with Bob, and it better be the right Bob.
 
parnassus said:
gamecams "h**p://news.stanford.edu/news/2012/june/jasper-ridge-cameras-060112.html" in Santa Cruz Mountains show no bigfoots.
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Nice video!
Oh! and I see a potential bigfoot at 2'13", left of the screen, in the background... ;)
 
Drewbot said:
You don't remember seeing people talking about Patty's costume bulge as though it were a giant freaking leg hernia?
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If I did I don't remember anything other than it was discussed. I never read those threads other than if someone flagged a report. If I'm not interested it, the details do not stick with me.

The only mention of muscles that I can recall recently is when Kit and I were discussing it, but that was just him saying what he thought something looked like versus what I thought Patty's anatomy looked like, mainly the butt.
 
GT/CS said:
Then how do you know there is a supposed debate?
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Based on the number of reports I got from those threads and I've heard Meldrum talk in general about it on television, but not in detail.
 
Volsquatch said:
It's obvious that she/he does know, that's the funny part. Well, that and the fact that some of you guys have been played like the sticky old poker game console down at the corner 7-Eleven for the last several pages. :D

This is obviously a selectively closeted and experienced believer having fun playing a novice, agendaless fence-sitter who could possibly go either way with a bunch of skeptics on the JREF Forum. How embarrassing that some of those skeptics are willing to make a serious attempt to guide this person down the path of truth and enlightenment.

These sort of shenanigans are nothing new for the die-hard bigfoot believer. In fact, while serving as a moderator on the BFF V.1, confronting these sort of BS "Us against Them" games is one of the main reasons that I became so unpopular with the believers, resulting in my being labeled(and subsequently shunned) as one of those "Meaniehead Skeptics".
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I thought we were just talking. Personally, I'm not feeling particularly beat up, and I don't think anyone here is so hurt by anything I've said that they can't get over it.

I will say this though for the JREF, I see my father's experience a bit differently. I never reversed the roles and thought about his story from the perspective of a parent coming from my parent as a child. That was enlightening.
 
Just out of curiosity I went and searched for the patent for composite landscape ties. They were patented by George E. Brown in 1976 patent number 4105159. So it was discarded rail road ties that my Pa was talking about.

However, it's altogether possible that the ties could have been knocked over if they were sunk straight into the ground. They were propping up mature vines that are heavy. I'm not sure that the weight of the vines would have hindered knocking the ties over but might have made it difficult to pull them up. Here is a you tube video in the county next to where this supposedly happened that describes how to build a muscadine trellis.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwGkUf1N3Yg&feature=related

Just thinking it through, I can't see a child pulling the vines down because of the height. If Dad ran up on a trespasser, the person may have panicked and ran. I can see an adult snagging the wires between the ties and getting tangled, pulling vines and ties up out of the ground.
 
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Jodie said:
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Just thinking it through, ...
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Just thinking it through, there are any number of possibilities more likely than an undocumented North American primate.


After all this time, if Bigfoots were inclined to frolic through the vineyards, tearing up trellises, don't you think we would have a little more verifiable evidence?
 
Skeptical Greg said:
Just thinking it through, there are any number of possibilities more likely than an undocumented North American primate.


After all this time, if Bigfoots were inclined to frolic through the vineyards, tearing up trellises, don't you think we would have a little more verifiable evidence?
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I don't think it was bigfoot, I'm leaning towards Dad finding someone sleeping under the vines or possibly picking the muscadines without permission. If it scared my Dad, then it probably scared the other person worse because here is this kid panicking, running, and screaming just adding to the potential trouble.
 
GT/CS said:
Jodie,
In what year did this incident occur?
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He was 10, his birthday was in November, muscadines ripen in the late summer, so late summer of 1942. I never asked for a date either, sorry, I was just a kid when I heard the story.
 
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