Moderated Bigfoot- Anybody Seen one?

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kitakaze said:
Oh, that is delicious. Keating and Kathy Lee. Wood on wood and a stick stack attack. We're footin', baby. Did Keating share the gold?

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Bigfoot came down like Deep Impact.

Did Keating show Kathy Lee and Hoda how to put some ketchup on it?

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The first picture is one of the many yearly hoaxed prints found during the conference. It is suspected the film crew from New Zealand was responsible. We will be able to tell when the show episode airs.

Keating did not put the ketchup around the supposed print, the idiots who found it did.

Anyway, the TV spot was embarrassing and to be expected.
 
WGBH said:
The first picture is one of the many yearly hoaxed prints found during the conference. It is suspected the film crew from New Zealand was responsible. We will be able to tell when the show episode airs.
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I'm confused. That print photo has a big 2006 on it and has been on Keating's site for some time, while Leigh Hart and his film crew were at the Ohio Bigfoot Conference this year.:boggled:

Keating did not put the ketchup around the supposed print, the idiots who found it did.
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Ah yes, Keating may not have squirted the ketchup, he only put the condiment laden marking on his website as Bigfoot evidence. Therefore he apparently finds ketchup art on dirt as acceptable.

Trust me, you don't need to defend someone else's weirdness.

Anyway, the TV spot was embarrassing and to be expected.
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What was embarrassing about it? I think Keating handled himself well and with humility. And he wasn't doing anything out of the ordinary for a Bigfoot enthusiast. Meldrum was certainly his usual self. Kathy Lee and Hoda had fun with it, but that is to be expected. Where's the embarrassment? Simply being shown?
 
kitakaze said:
I'm confused. That print photo has a big 2006 on it and has been on Keating's site for some time, while Leigh Hart and his film crew were at the Ohio Bigfoot Conference this year.:boggled:
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OK, it's one of the ones from 2006. The one from this year looked just like it.
 
William Parcher said:
Meldrum and Keating were representing Bigfoot. Would you have preferred using different people to explain that Bigfoot is real?
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Dr.Meldrum and Keating were not "representing" myself. Exactly how would anyone explain that Bigfoot is real?
 
kitakaze said:
What was embarrassing about it? I think Keating handled himself well and with humility. And he wasn't doing anything out of the ordinary for a Bigfoot enthusiast. Meldrum was certainly his usual self. Kathy Lee and Hoda had fun with it, but that is to be expected. Where's the embarrassment? Simply being shown?
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Keating handled himself fine. Kathy Lee and Hoda were not having fun with it, they were mocking it.
 
WGBH said:
OK, it's one of the ones from 2006. The one from this year looked just like it.
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So that 2006 one that is clearly fake looks just like a 2009 one that you suspect was made by a Kiwi film crew. What makes you think Leigh Hart's crew faked Bigfoot prints in Salt Fork State Park?
 
WGBH said:
Keating handled himself fine. Kathy Lee and Hoda were not having fun with it, they were mocking it.
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Oh, I don't think I'd say they were mocking the idea of Bigfoot being real. The set it up well, talk about how even some scientists think there is something out there, cue Meldrum. Accurately they assess the situation and say that even after centuries, we have no answers. In comes Don and they set him up nice. He's a cryptozoologist with 25 years experience looking for the beast. He's only found it twice but he doesn't give up. That's OK because he's in the right place - Salt Fork State Park - Sasquatch Triangle.

They say there have been hundreds of sightings in SFSP and then they bring in Hal Harper, the park manager, who talks about the story of Bigfoot busting a window and causing havoc at the ranger station here...

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They mocked themselves a bit. They said they were idiots. Kathy Lee made herself out to be a chicken and made fun of Hoda's monster feet. Sure, they tease Keating for looking for Bigfoot for 25 years and having no better methods than wood on wood and hollering, but come on, that's nothing.

No, I think as far as Bigfoot press goes, the Today Show was pretty nice. Meanwhile, the footer zoo at Salt Fork is sure to see a spike, no doubt.

Yeah, they really could have mocked Keating hard. Hey buddy, 25 years and you can't find a population of 8ft beasts in a 23 square mile park with extremely limited natural food resources for an ape? You couldn't catch a cold, Keating. News flash - it's a myth. AKA not real. What's with the ketchup art on your website, BTW?

Yeah, that would be mocking and it wouldn't be uncalled for.
 
kitakaze said:
So that 2006 one that is clearly fake looks just like a 2009 one that you suspect was made by a Kiwi film crew. What makes you think Leigh Hart's crew faked Bigfoot prints in Salt Fork State Park?
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Yes, the print looked similar, it was a cookie cutter fake like that. Search "Leigh Hart's Mysterious Planet" on youtube. I would have given a link but youtube was acting weird tonight.
 
WGBH said:
Yes, the print looked similar, it was a cookie cutter fake like that. Search "Leigh Hart's Mysterious Planet" on youtube. I would have given a link but youtube was acting weird tonight.
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I've watched his Bigfoot segment stuff. If I look again, will I find an explanation for why you think his film crew made fake tracks at SFSP this year?
 
WGBH said:
Dr.Meldrum and Keating were not "representing" myself. Exactly how would anyone explain that Bigfoot is real?
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Like I said they were representing Bigfoot. Meldrum mentioned hundreds of plaster casts in his lab and how there is no way that that many people are faking tracks. Keating said he has seen Bigfoot.

Those are two people explaining in different ways that Bigfoot is real. They did it right there on the TV. In a significant way, they represent you as well because you explain that Bigfoot is real too (but not on TV).

The Today Show has a huge audience. Two people (Footers) were on that show and explained that Bigfoot is real.
 
kitakaze said:
I've watched his Bigfoot segment stuff. If I look again, will I find an explanation for why you think his film crew made fake tracks at SFSP this year?
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No, I guess not if you did not get it the first time you watched it. I do not know for certain they made the fake track.

His entire weekend there was one big comedic hoax. From lying about his occupation to drunkenly stumbling around the woods at night(complete with alcohol flask in hand) attempting to hoax or frighten the throng of clueless conference goers in the forest. I told him off for his actions very loudly and in his face right in the middle of the road when he approached me. I suspect that is why he took shots at me in his article.

You should have seen it. It was definitely one of your "Bigfoot Gong shows". Except he or his film crew could have been injured doing a stunt like that.
 
William Parcher said:
Those are two people explaining in different ways that Bigfoot is real. They did it right there on the TV. In a significant way, they represent you as well because you explain that Bigfoot is real too (but not on TV).
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You cannot "explain" that Bigfoot is real. Verifiable proof that Bigfoot is real is needed. We are in the same field of investigation yes, but they do not represent me.
 
William Parcher said:
Meldrum mentioned hundreds of plaster casts in his lab and how there is no way that that many people are faking tracksl.
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10 people faking 1 set of tracks a year would produce 100 casts (minimum) in a decade
Foot print casts have been popular for 60 years and the U.S. has a population of over 300 million people. Meldrum sucks at math doesn't he
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WGBH said:
Dr.Meldrum and Keating were not "representing" myself. Exactly how would anyone explain that Bigfoot is real?
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How? you ask? Why the same way you explain ghosts, aliens or any other folk story are true. You make up a story, or recount one that you heard, add a few embellishments, and bam, you convince someone.

How I would convince Hota and Kathy said:
Well, Hota, and Kathy, A few years ago, in this very State Park, a young couple decided to spend a weekend together, camping, just up the road. They cooked some hot dogs, had a couple beers, and decided to turn in for the night, at about 11:30 the girl thought she heard something walking around the campsite. She shook her boyfriend awake, and whispered that something was in the camp. The boyfriend (Who was a hunter, and had a gun with him) said it's probably a raccoon, 'go back to sleep'. A few minutes later, the dishes from dinner, which were in a rack drying, smashed loudly against a tree, bringing both campers upright. The man, slowly unzippered the tent, and looked out, THERE, standing 10 feet from the tent was a snarling hairy beast, 8 feet tall, LOOKING RIGHT AT HIM!, he turned with a look of fear on his face, and said, 'we have to run for the car', (he grabbed the gun, but was unable to shoot the beast for some reason) they both could hear growling now as the beast moved off to the right, at that instant they both bolted from the tent and ran to the left and right to the their Honda Civic, just as they got in, the beast pushed on the car shaking it and howling maniacally, the couple drove off leaving their gear right there, never to camp again.
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Drewbot said:
How? you ask? Why the same way you explain ghosts, aliens or any other folk story are true. You make up a story, or recount one that you heard, add a few embellishments, and bam, you convince someone.
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Just for clarification - I wasn't meaning to include "convince someone" as part of the "explaining". That is an entirely different project. Meldrum and Keating did explain that Bigfoot exists.

I just don't want John or you to think that once you have explained something... people will automatically believe it. I was not implying that. John understands firsthand what this means and that it is true. Many people explain to him that Bigfoot does not exist. He doesn't believe it though.

There is a kind of reversal of roles that can be found. There are extreme pro-Bigfoot radio shows and forums. This is where you will sometimes find Bigfooters making fun of skeptics and sometimes with ridicule. Heavy sarcasm and wide-eyes as they ask what kind of a fool you must be to think that tens of thousands of people over centuries have been lying. Hundreds of huge footprints in remote locations. A film that shows a Bigfoot walking away. You have got to be some kind of blind idiot to think this creature is not out there.
 
Regardless of what people think when they say "they don't represent me", these people DO represent the searchers of Bigfoot and thus "represent you". It's the same as anyone saying their local politicians in office don't represent them when in fact they are in office to represent you even if you disagree with their form of representation.

As long as Footers put these folks on pedestals or refer to them as knowledgeable go to people, They Represent You. Those folks who put their faces on Television representing Bigfootery get what comes from the majorities opinion of this fringe subject and this recent Kathy Lee/Hoda example is exactly what should have been expected.
 
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