Moderated Bigfoot- Anybody Seen one?

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WGBH said:
First Part: I have described to you what I felt, and what I saw. Run with it in whatever direction you wish, just don't expect me to participate in that direction. I am used to paying a professional for that.

I never meant to infer insults hurled at me. I meant that I would prefer that instead of the armchair psychology direction we were headed in.

I'm not hurt or huffy.
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OK, I understand. I just prefer we don't have any unnecessary drama. I don't want to hurl anything at you, insults or otherwise, nor do I want to pry into what your psychologist tells you. I don't think he/she could confirm/deny whether or not you saw Bigfoot more than anyone else can.

Now then, moving on. Could you please make a selection from options 1-5 in my previous post? I know it's not #1, so let's see what makes the most sense to you.
 
kitakaze said:
I am honoured to have been the cause for you decloaking, Bitter Monk. Feel free to sig that.
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I would be pleased to do so but I'm having a bit of trouble with the control panel. Perhaps it is my uber-noob status.

WGBH said:
Why the self imposed lurking Sam? Tell everyone here your opinions on my encounter or better yet we can discuss yours. Join in on the fun.
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John I have to admit to being ignorant regarding your encounter. Is there a link you could provide to it?
 
Bitter Monk said:
I would be pleased to do so but I'm having a bit of trouble with the control panel. Perhaps it is my uber-noob status.
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User control panel > edit avatar (under settings & options). Otherwise you might have to post 15 or 20 times. Are you going to use the same avatar?

John I have to admit to being ignorant regarding your encounter. Is there a link you could provide to it?
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BFRO Report

'Round the mulberry bush.
 
kitakaze said:
John, please select the option that you feel was most likely (which I know will not be #1, but that must be included for completeness).

1) You had a neurological experience, sleep-related and or false memory and never actually saw Bigfoot.

2) Bigfoot hit you with an infrasound blast which frazzled you all up, made you spasm, and hit the floor in a fetal position. Once it incapacitated you it moved over to the mulberry bush on which it wanted to feed 50 yards away.

3) Bigfoot put the stink on you from some type of special glands it has evolved which frazzled you all up, made you spasm, and hit the floor in a fetal position. Once it incapacitated you it moved over to the mulberry bush on which it wanted to feed 50 yards away.

4) There was an unknown agent, wholly unrelated to the moment in which you encountered Bigfoot, which frazzled you all up, made you spasm, and hit the floor in a fetal position.

5) You had some type of seizure, wholly unrelated to the moment in which you encountered Bigfoot, which frazzled you all up, made you spasm, and hit the floor in a fetal position.
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Just a note: On #3 I was not incapacitated when it stepped out and ate at the bush. I was sitting up and watching.

Out of all of those choices, IMO the most unlikely would be #4.

IMO #1 and #5 are a small possibility. Not so much to the JREF.

#2 and #3 are the two main theories from footers.

I think you forgot the possibility that it was a misidentified 9x5 bear. :D

I am sure your response could be a chapter in a book , but I will humor you.
 
WGBH said:
Just a note: On #3 I was not incapacitated when it stepped out and ate at the bush. I was sitting up and watching.

Out of all of those choices, IMO the most unlikely would be #4.

IMO #1 and #5 are a small possibility. Not so much to the JREF.

#2 and #3 are the two main theories from footers.

I think you forgot the possibility that it was a misidentified 9x5 bear. :D

I am sure your response could be a chapter in a book , but I will humor you.
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Misidentifying a bear would go under false memory, I think. Numbers #2 and #3 are crazy foo foo, AFAIC.

So let's discuss #4. What external agent that did not come from a Bigfoot do you think could floor you just prior to seeing a Bigfoot?

Ever look into people having similar seizures while in the Pasquotank River area?

Also, how coincidental do you think it is that you have a seizure type experience caused by something else just before you see a massive beast unknown to science?
 
kitakaze said:
User control panel > edit avatar (under settings & options). Otherwise you might have to post 15 or 20 times. Are you going to use the same avatar?
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It must be my noob status then because I didn't see those options. And yes, no sense in changing avatars now after all this time.

John who was the investigator that handled your BFRO report? I'm guessing since the investigator comments aren't included in the report it is someone no longer with the BFRO?
 
kitakaze said:
Misidentifying a bear would go under false memory, I think. Numbers #2 and #3 are crazy foo foo, AFAIC.

So let's discuss #4. What external agent that did not come from a Bigfoot do you think could floor you just prior to seeing a Bigfoot?

Ever look into people having similar seizures while in the Pasquotank River area?

Also, how coincidental do you think it is that you have a seizure type experience caused by something else just before you see a massive beast unknown to science?
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You may be right about #2 and #3, but there is documented use of both by known animals.

I have no idea what could cause that. Possibly some of the things you listed.

No, I never have asked about seizures near the Dismal. I have only been in the area twice. Who would you suggest I ask if I return again?

I never thought that the two things (sighting and sickness) were related at all until i learned of the theories from footers. In fact I barely mentioned sickness in my BFRO report.
 
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Bitter Monk said:
It must be my noob status then because I didn't see those options. And yes, no sense in changing avatars now after all this time.

John who was the investigator that handled your BFRO report? I'm guessing since the investigator comments aren't included in the report it is someone no longer with the BFRO?
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It was Mary Green who called and did my interview. The report posted is what I wrote. I also have wondered why no investigator comments were added.
 
WGBH said:
You may be right about #2 and #3, but there is documented use of both by known animals.
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Show me a mammal that knocks out another animal with infrasound. Dolphins using echolocation clicks from their bulbous heads does not count, and there is no proof that they can stun fish in this manner. In any case, that's not infrasound.

And just how does an ape evolve that?

Show me an animal that knocks out other animals with chemical stink attacks.

And just how does an ape evolve that?

No, I never have asked about seizures near the Dismal. I have only been in the area twice. Who would you suggest I ask if I return again?
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Just call them. I gave you the number, remember? Ask them if they've had any reports of people smelling a terrible stink that incapacitated them. Say "I don't know, like a swamp gas or something?" if you feel embarrassed.

I never thought that the two things (sighting and sickness) were related at all until i learned of the theories from footers. In fact I barely mentioned it in my BFRO report.
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Let's continue with the premise that they are not related, since Bigfoot putting you to the ground spasming with either infrasound or stink is crazy talk. Don't you find it to be some kind of bizarre coincidence that you have a type of seizure that you've never had in your life and then you see a massive beast unknown to science? Had a seizure, then saw Bigfoot - crazy timing, no?
 
WGBH said:
I never thought that the two things (sighting and sickness) were related at all until i learned of the theories from footers. In fact I barely mentioned it in my BFRO report.
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Perhaps you shouldn't make the connection. When I was 20 I had a non-epileptic seizure. At the time it happened it was one of the most frightening things I'd ever experienced, primarily because I had no idea what was happening to me. Your recounting of the experience from the Blogsquatcher article is very similar to the symptoms I experienced including the nausea preceding the event. I'd be curious to know if you also experienced any sharp increases or decreases in your perceived body temperature or sudden profuse sweating.

The reason I'm sharing this is because my NES happened while I was in a restaurant. Your experience happened in a tree stand in the woods. For me there was no reason to think that anything other than a medical event had happened to me (although I was completely mystified myself). There was nobody that was going to come along and make me think anything to the contrary. In your case you yourself said that you didn't originally associate the experience with what followed it. It wasn't until you were primed by the knowledge that there were those who think that bigfoot can "zap" a person that you began to consider the possibility that one was related to the other.
 
Thanks Kitakaze for sharing the silvanic challenge with us. I wonder what is Gigantapithicus, I know about the Gigantopithecus, which is extinct, lived in Asia, and left a few teeth. No one knows really how tall it was or even if it was biped, as biggie is supposed to be.
 
kitakaze said:
Show me a mammal that knocks out another animal with infrasound. Dolphins using echolocation clicks from their bulbous heads does not count, and there is no proof that they can stun fish in this manner. In any case, that's not infrasound.

And just how does an ape evolve that?

Show me an animal that knocks out other animals with chemical stink attacks.

And just how does an ape evolve that?



Just call them. I gave you the number, remember? Ask them if they've had any reports of people smelling a terrible stink that incapacitated them. Say "I don't know, like a swamp gas or something?" if you feel embarrassed.



Let's continue with the premise that they are not related, since Bigfoot putting you to the ground spasming with either infrasound or stink is crazy talk. Don't you find it to be some kind of bizarre coincidence that you have a type of seizure that you've never had in your life and then you see a massive beast unknown to science? Had a seizure, then saw Bigfoot - crazy timing, no?
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I found these by using google,

Tigers can stun prey with infrasound. It is thought that Lions can also, but it has not been studied like it has with tigers. Elephants can use it to communicate for miles. Also used by whales, Giraffe and Sumatran Rhino for communication.

In Gorillas, pheromones or chemical emissions provide information about an individual's health and reproductive status and possibly about the identity, age, and gender of the individual.

Far fetched? sure, but who knows?

Sure it was bizarre, all of it is bizarre.
 
Bitter Monk said:
Perhaps you shouldn't make the connection. When I was 20 I had a non-epileptic seizure. At the time it happened it was one of the most frightening things I'd ever experienced, primarily because I had no idea what was happening to me. Your recounting of the experience from the Blogsquatcher article is very similar to the symptoms I experienced including the nausea preceding the event. I'd be curious to know if you also experienced any sharp increases or decreases in your perceived body temperature or sudden profuse sweating.

The reason I'm sharing this is because my NES happened while I was in a restaurant. Your experience happened in a tree stand in the woods. For me there was no reason to think that anything other than a medical event had happened to me (although I was completely mystified myself). There was nobody that was going to come along and make me think anything to the contrary. In your case you yourself said that you didn't originally associate the experience with what followed it. It wasn't until you were primed by the knowledge that there were those who think that bigfoot can "zap" a person that you began to consider the possibility that one was related to the other.
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Maybe I should not make the connection. It was just a attempt at full disclosure of what happened that day. I do not remember feeling hot and Sweaty, but of course it is possible.

Do you remember if you hallucinated after your seizure? Did you lose consciousness? I was dizzy, in pain and my ears were ringing, but I was conscious and remember trying to figure out what was happening.
 
I experienced intense dizziness shortly before I lost consciousness. In fact it was so intense I let myself fall in a controlled fashion so to speak because I knew I was about to go down hard if I didn't do something. During the actual seizure I lost consciousness in the practical sense but retained enough consciousness to figure out that the reason my head was hurting was because I was pounding it against the floor and I needed to cover my head up in order to protect it. When I came to I was in a fetal position with my arms wrapped around my head. The post seizure experience for me was typical of those who experience non-epileptic seizures, i.e. I stood up and dusted myself off without experiencing any lingering symptoms.
 
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