Moderated Bigfoot- Anybody Seen one?

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Drewbot said:
DUDE! If I went into a suburban wooded park, and saw a 9' tall, x 6' wide creature, of ANY FORM whatsoever, and I REALLY REALLY THOUGHT IT WAS REAL, I would be calling newspapers, standing out front warning families, ANYTHING I could to keep people from letting their children be placed in jeopardy because of the Beast. Especially if it was a freaking Gorilla-Man-Beast. Could you imagine the guilt if one of those children got eaten by the beast, and you had done NOTHING to warn those families??? Oh Snap, I'd be so sad.
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Suburban? Naw, more like very rural. I agree, if you find a Bigfoot body, get it in a truck and drive to the nearest news outlet and pull up right in front for photos and film.
 
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Drewbot said:
JOHN- This is why I think you KNOW you didn't see a bigfoot, because listening to your nature over the last couple years, I know you'd be out there trying to keep little kids from being eaten, and I haven't seen one thing where you said you were manning the post out front of the park handing out DANGER _ GIANT GORILLA pamphlets to the families going into the park in their Taurus Wagons.
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LOL! Drew, if you really knew me you would know how much I can't stand being around children.:D Also my sighting was not IN the park, it was in the area.
 
WGBH said:
I agree with you. I will try.
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You seem remarkably lackadaisical about researching your sighting.

Would it somehow diminish you if you couldn't believe anymore?
 
John, there was one question I asked long ago that didn't get an answer. It was asked about when you went over to look for tracks where the Bigfoot was standing/feeding.


If instead you had found what appeared to be bear tracks, would it have caused you to have any doubts about what you saw (Bigfoot)?
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tsig said:
You seem remarkably lackadaisical about researching your sighting.

Would it somehow diminish you if you couldn't believe anymore?
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I guess you have not been paying attention. I prefer to not do field work alone.
I can get panicky in the woods.

I am the only member of my organization in this area of southeastern VA. Everyone else is a 3 hour drive to the north or out west. You want to volunteer to go with me? OK, lets go.

No it would not diminish me, the sun would still rise in the morning.
 
William Parcher said:
John, there was one question I asked long ago that didn't get an answer. It was asked about when you went over to look for tracks where the Bigfoot was standing/feeding.
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Yes William. Of course I would rely on any trace evidence. If it was a bear, I could have lived with that. It was not.
 
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WGBH said:
Yes William. Of course I would rely on any trace evidence. If it was a bear, I could have lived with that. It was not.
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You found no trace evidence at all to indicate it was a Bigfoot instead of a bear, right?
 
WGBH said:
No, I noticed no trace evidence at all.
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Again, you said you weren't paying attention to the stripped branches, right?


But, I was a boy and could have overlooked something of course.
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You could have overlooked bear tracks?

Do you recall if the ground there covered with pine needles?
 
William Parcher said:
Again, you said you weren't paying attention to the stripped branches, right?




You could have overlooked bear tracks?

Do you recall if the ground there covered with pine needles?
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Yes, I could have overlooked tracks. Yes the ground was covered with pine needles and leaves everywhere.
 
So, John, if you could choose, what medium to large-sized North American mammal (not Bigfoot) would you like to see in the wild?
 
William Parcher said:
Why did you use the term 'on average' for those numbers?
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Because of two things:

1. researching Grizzly bear physiology and information, including diet, behavior, etc. Let me tell you this: I was at the ecology center nearby (Probably a mile or two north of a shopping outlet, which includes bob's, best buy, etc). My parents and I went to there, (It was part of my birthday present). We saw some pretty interesting animals, including the Endangered Bald eagle, which was discussed by one of the Officials as "Escaping and nearly landing in Traffic).

Anyway, i Saw a Black bear up close, WP. They are MONSTROUS, yet are way way smaller than Grizzlies!

Thats just my experience with these large beasts( I have seen some In california, both outside and on my reservation, Foraging for food. They were pain in the Asse's, and cost me about 3 dinners.)
 
Grizzly bears are a subspecies of brown bears. On AVERAGE they top out about 2 feet shorter and 200 pounds lighter than what you indicated. At 10 feet tall on their hind legs and 1000 lbs. dry that specimen would be considered large for a griz.
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Considering there are thousands of them, 10ft and 1000 lbs is not rare, and would occur at least once in every national park/Wildlife Center.
 
Kit,

Yes, it was like it was never there. But it was.

I have done tons of reading on PTSD thanks, I will look it over.

I think seeing a wolf could be neat, as long as it didn't try to eat me.
 
LONGTABBER PE said:
Yeah, 2 or 3 have been killed in that exact area over the years so its not unheard of by any means. I suppose it depends on how one describes "remote" and the weight one puts on it. Its a fact we have a small bear population and once in a while one gets shot but I compare it to deer and the hunter ratio.
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Ah, okay. Thanks for the clarification.

Cant see it due to bandwidth and internet restrictions in place here. Since I cant see it the description was "holes" similar to a walking path punched thru roughly 1-1.5 inches of ice. ( with a lot of broken sections) as well as hearing the punching while waiting for sun to rise
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The picture showed how the overlaid tracks of a bear walking on all fours can create the appearance of a large-footed biped (similar tp what you're describing).

I meant that inclusively- not just that lone act. I dont rule a drunk out but for it to have been a drunk- he would have had to walk about 4 miles into the "back 40" of Lewis where the ranges were ( past range Control and the MP's and gates) ( no vehicles because headlights show up like lighthouses on NVG's and if we had seen that, we would have reported that to RC) and then amble several hundred meters down range. Just to amble for 20 odd minutes or so.
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Good point. I have no idea how far a drunk could or would walk, so I'm not about to many any arguments for for against a drunken civilian. Could someone on base get tanked and wander around? I forget if you discussed this before, but I'd suspect there are rules in place to prevent that sort of thing. Although people tend to find a way around such regulations...

Possible but I would expect a much higher level of prank from an SF soldier. I would also expect some kind of punchline. (I've seen some good ones and if a prank- this wasnt one of them)
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You can never really know for sure, due to all the terrible "pranks" out there. One great example of this is the "act like the cashier is your best friend during checkout" routine I occasionally dealt with during my retail days. I was under the impression that it was only considered a success if the cashier responded positively, but apparently my not reacting was just as satisfying to them.
 
makaya325 said:
Because of two things:

1. researching Grizzly bear physiology and information, including diet, behavior, etc. Let me tell you this: I was at the ecology center nearby (Probably a mile or two north of a shopping outlet, which includes bob's, best buy, etc). My parents and I went to there, (It was part of my birthday present). We saw some pretty interesting animals, including the Endangered Bald eagle, which was discussed by one of the Officials as "Escaping and nearly landing in Traffic).

Anyway, i Saw a Black bear up close, WP. They are MONSTROUS, yet are way way smaller than Grizzlies!

Thats just my experience with these large beasts( I have seen some In california, both outside and on my reservation, Foraging for food. They were pain in the Asse's, and cost me about 3 dinners.)
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You forgot to put a #2 in there.

If you had actually researched grizzly bear height/weight you would not have said this...

Do you even know how large Grizzly's can get? They stand over 10ft tall and weigh more than 1000 pounds...on AVERAGE.
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Their average standing height is not 10', and their average weight is not 1000lbs. Are you pulling numbers from your butt again?
 
Their average standing height is not 10', and their average weight is not 1000lbs. Are you pulling numbers from your butt again?
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My mistake. Yes, Grizzly male's weight 400 to 700 lbs on average, while the Kodiak bear weighs over 1000 lbs on AVERAGE. I guess i was talking about the Grizzly bear and accidently described a Kodiak bear. Regardless of that, They would both TOWER over a Sasquatch (If it exists), and sasquatch would not even crack the top 20 in terms of largest land mammals.
 
AtomicMysteryMonster said:
Ah, okay. Thanks for the clarification.



The picture showed how the overlaid tracks of a bear walking on all fours can create the appearance of a large-footed biped (similar tp what you're describing).



Good point. I have no idea how far a drunk could or would walk, so I'm not about to many any arguments for for against a drunken civilian. Could someone on base get tanked and wander around? I forget if you discussed this before, but I'd suspect there are rules in place to prevent that sort of thing. Although people tend to find a way around such regulations...



You can never really know for sure, due to all the terrible "pranks" out there. One great example of this is the "act like the cashier is your best friend during checkout" routine I occasionally dealt with during my retail days. I was under the impression that it was only considered a success if the cashier responded positively, but apparently my not reacting was just as satisfying to them.
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>>>The picture showed how the overlaid tracks of a bear walking on all fours can create the appearance of a large-footed biped (similar tp what you're describing).

ahh, OK- gotcha Let me define tracks here in this case

In this case, the "track" was not a distinguishable "track" in the sense of an outline/shape/toes etc. This wasnt snow or soft dirt. This was hard ice over water and land which itself was frozen except where it was running water.

These were just "punch thru's"- if they hadnt been heard being made before sun up and unfrozen water sloshing- they probably wouldnt have even been noticed

>>>Good point. I have no idea how far a drunk could or would walk, so I'm not about to many any arguments for for against a drunken civilian. Could someone on base get tanked and wander around? I forget if you discussed this before, but I'd suspect there are rules in place to prevent that sort of thing. Although people tend to find a way around such regulations...

well "today" a person would be fragged and locked up- 25 odd years ago before MADD, SADD, DADD and all the other ADD's- nobody really gave a damn.

If we were close to main post ( ie the NCO and EM clubs) I would think much more likely but even then that didnt explain the overall size very well. Its the distance and gating that really makes me doubt that scenario.

>>>You can never really know for sure, due to all the terrible "pranks" out there. One great example of this is the "act like the cashier is your best friend during checkout" routine I occasionally dealt with during my retail days. I was under the impression that it was only considered a success if the cashier responded positively, but apparently my not reacting was just as satisfying to them

True and it could be as simple as it didnt get the "desired effect" and was dropped. I dont discount that possibility.
 
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