Moderated Bigfoot- Anybody Seen one?

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LONGTABBER PE said:
I can rule out a human/hoax/prank on the first one simply because of the ice, speed, "unique" sound and size.( and I doubt a human would have made it thru that hail of magnum duck loads and a few 00 rounds without screaming, dying or trying to communicate)
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Why would you expect that a Bigfoot wouldn't scream or die after being shot up like that?
 
LT- just using a little Longtabber questioning on this, but why would you be carrying Magnum Duck Loads, AND 00 Buck shot? Here in Michigan, carrying buckshot while duck hunting is illegal, don't know about NC. But the two loads don't normally go together.

Re:1st encounter (were you in the Military at the time?) if not then ignore this.
Also, you have said that pranking goes on at the bases quite a bit, knowing that fact, wouldn't you be inclined NOT to shoot at an unidentified creature, knowing that it quite possibly could be one of your buds playing a prank on what he assumed was a couple of new guys?
 
William Parcher said:
Why would you expect that a Bigfoot wouldn't scream or die after being shot up like that?
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"It" did-what I was referring to was screaming in "English" or other attempts to communicate in a human manner like 'ahhhhh, dont shoot".

For that matter, whatever it was could have ran and dropped dead a few hundred yards away too.
 
Marduk said:
wait, it was 16 years until you reported this to a group collecting reports and they accepted it. thats the problem right there, its not the people seeing enigmas in the forest who are the issue, there are always enigmas in forests, its what theyre for, its the fact that the groups collating the evidence have no rational scepticism whatever. Please go to your local police station and tell them you'd like to report someone for stealing your wallet 16 years earlier and see what they say.
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Witnessing a Bigfoot is not a crime last time I checked. It is not a civic duty to report it and no statute of limitations.
 
WGBH said:
Witnessing a Bigfoot is not a crime last time I checked. It is not a civic duty to report it and no statute of limitations.
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so you don't agree that a story 16 years old told by one person without any evidence is anecdotal, really, take yourself out of the situation and look at it again

;)
 
Drewbot said:
LT- just using a little Longtabber questioning on this, but why would you be carrying Magnum Duck Loads, AND 00 Buck shot? Here in Michigan, carrying buckshot while duck hunting is illegal, don't know about NC. But the two loads don't normally go together.

Re:1st encounter (were you in the Military at the time?) if not then ignore this.
Also, you have said that pranking goes on at the bases quite a bit, knowing that fact, wouldn't you be inclined NOT to shoot at an unidentified creature, knowing that it quite possibly could be one of your buds playing a prank on what he assumed was a couple of new guys?
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>>>but why would you be carrying Magnum Duck Loads, AND 00 Buck shot?

Because we were DUCK hunting. Now in SC, duck/deer season occupy the same space and our swamps are chocked full of deer. Its the norm to carry a 5 pack in your shirt( for shotgun hunters) for the occasional swamp deer because ducks in the swamp only fly for about 30 min post daybreak- then switch loads and head to the stand. The only legal caveat is that you cant shoot them from a boat ( or any other vehicle) or when they are in the water.

( now, we have "tree stands" [ blinds] off the water where we do both and make a day of it but that wasnt the spot we were at that day because of school)

>>>Also, you have said that pranking goes on at the bases quite a bit, knowing that fact, wouldn't you be inclined NOT to shoot at an unidentified creature, knowing that it quite possibly could be one of your buds playing a prank on what he assumed was a couple of new guys

It does and on a military installation, in uniform etc- you would NOT lock and load on ANY target unless it was a DIRECT threat to life or government protected property. ( deadly force is authorized under those circumstances) and if you do- you DAMN WELL BETTER have proof, witnesses etc or Levenworth is in your near future under UCMJ rules so that ruled out taking a "pot shot".

Our first thought was in fact a member of the cadre "checking in" on us. ( its the norm for some night "ops' to wind up at the local tavern and its normal to be "checked up" on)

It wasnt until it went around the vehicle and the size was noted that it even became anything more that either cadre or a drunk dude wandering on a range. I can effectively rule out cadre or other official because we noted we observed a target and nothing was ever noted. ( they always tell you AFTER THE FACT they were there- especially if you were "NOT" there LOL)

Now, a drunk or aimlessly lost civilian- possibly but he would have to been very tall- cant effectively rule that out other than to say its a several mile long walk to where we were. Long way to walk just for the purpose to do "nothing".

Sister ODA screwing with us- very probable and cannot be ruled out either but "normally" when they do things like that- theres a punchline and if none, they "probe" to see if you actually saw the prank in the first place.

None of that occurred but again- cannot be ruled out.
 
Drewbot said:
LT is basically a kook, with a logic streak.

He can't explain his contact, but his logical nature doesn't allow him to say it is an UNCLASSIFIED BROWN HAIRY PRIMATE WITH STANKINESS TO HIGH HEAVEN.
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Reminds me of this song (note the Historian/Beckjordian-like bits):

there was a guy
an under water guy who controlled the sea
got killed by ten million pounds of sludge
from new york and new jersey
this monkey's gone to heaven

the creature in the sky
got sucked in ahole
now there's a hole in the sky
and the ground's not cold
and if the ground's not cold
everything is gonna burn
we'll all take turns
i'll get mine, too
this monkey's gone to haven

rock me joe!

if man is 5 [3x]
then the devil is 6 [5x]
then god is 7 [3x]
this monkey's gone to heaven
 
LT,

You mentioned a noise in the first encounter. Do you mean a scream? Would you call it a scream ,howl or whoop? Can you desribe the volume? Did you get a glimpse of the color of whatever it was?
 
Drewbot said:
LT is basically a kook, with a logic streak.

He can't explain his contact, but his logical nature doesn't allow him to say it is an UNCLASSIFIED BROWN HAIRY PRIMATE WITH STANKINESS TO HIGH HEAVEN.
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LT, if you don't mind a tad a speculation. If you would have had a good look and it appeared to you to be a Bigfoot. Would you have told anyone?
 
WGBH said:
LT,

You mentioned a noise in the first encounter. Do you mean a scream? Would you call it a scream ,howl or whoop? Can you desribe the volume? Did you get a glimpse of the color of whatever it was?
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Sure

>>>Do you mean a scream? Would you call it a scream ,howl or whoop? Can you desribe the volume?

What one would call it is somewhat subjective but it was short ( best guess 1.5 seconds max) and went low/gutteral ( like a growl in a barrel) to shrill.

>>>Did you get a glimpse of the color of whatever it was?

Not fully discernable- where we were at in relation and given the rising sun angle and eyes adjusting- there was only 1 "hole" where we got an unobstructed view and that was just for a fleeting second. When we were in the "haul ass" mode- neither one of was even attempting to look back.
 
WGBH said:
LT, if you don't mind a tad a speculation. If you would have had a good look and it appeared to you to be a Bigfoot. Would you have told anyone?
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absolutely. If I was certain it was a BF, I would say so. Public opinion be damned.
 
LT, does the person who was hunting with you feel the same about this "thing"? Are they also now involved in the Bigfootery phenomenon?
 
William Parcher said:
LT, does the person who was hunting with you feel the same about this "thing"? Are they also now involved in the Bigfootery phenomenon?
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Until I went in the Army, all Robin would do is deer hunt or bird hunt in open field and never went without an arsenal. He refused to even discuss it. ( even with me)

I moved and havent seen or heard from him since I left so cant say.
 
William Parcher said:
After your encounter, did you ever use the word "Bigfoot" in conversation with Robin?
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Actually, after his brother and sister told us how he "weirded out"- I never broached the subject after that week.

he got back to normal pretty quick except when it was time to go hunting- nothing in the dark ( coons etc), no dense woods,no "swamp" camping ( places like Santee were good) and toted enough firepower to take out a squad.
 
LONGTABBER PE said:
Actually, after his brother and sister told us how he "weirded out"- I never broached the subject after that week.
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Did they say he weirded out because he encountered a large animal unknown to science that was also able to withstand the hits?
 
William Parcher said:
Did they say he weirded out because he encountered a large animal unknown to science that was also able to withstand the hits?
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They didnt offer much information- I didnt ask

I was a bit "unnerved" myself but at that time, my thoughts were more focused on a bear. It was somewhere around Spring when the article appeared and BF really entered my mind.

I can tell you that none of us gave the "theory of BF" or science or anything else much thought back then. It was basically if we ever see anything like it again- we were going to kill it.
 
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Anyway- dawn came and the ducks flew- when we fired out first rounds ( simultaneously at a flock)

There was like an "explosion" of water, ice breaking and a scream that I thought was like a werewolf or something ( growl howl as best i can describe it)

We could clearly see the commotion thru the swamp as being maybe 50 yards from us and saw an "object" on dry land ( we know this area very well and down to the inch- it was in a place where we also make blinds- kinda like an island sandbar with the creek split on both sides- but deep enough to need a boat to safely get to)- it "moved' back and forth and was growling/grunting ( not like the initial loud one)

We didnt know whether it was man or beast and since we shot "up" ( at ducks) we didnt believe we shot somebody.

we called to it- no answers but it was basically still- then Robin got smart and challenged it ( as if it were a man saying he was trespassing and fired another shot in the air)- it hit the creek and it was CLEAR it was sloshing water and coming in our direction ( estimated 30 yards when we saw the "huge' outline with the daybreak and sun behind us)

I wont lie to you- we were scared @@@@less and literally opened up with a hail of #4 shot from 2 automatics- dead center mass of the incoming "thing"- it kinda slowed

Robin said @@@@ this and loaded up with 00B ( we always carry 5 rounds or more when duck hunting for the occasional creek deer and the browning A-5 allows to change the chamber round)- he said if it came any closer he was going to kill it. he yelled that he had buckshot now and if it came [ still thinking this was a man but maybe a bear- even tho there are none in SC]

it took about 2 steps, Robin saif OK MF and fired 3 rounds center mass- ( i was now ready for round 2 if needed)- we heard "thocking" ( as if shot striking trees and maybe a body) and this thing went "ape@@@@" ( no other way to describe it) except this time it went right ( to us but its left) and was making all kinds of fuss and growling, screaming and cleared the creek ( about 25 ft) with a big splash spraying wayer all over and was coming down the creekbank ( in our general direction but there was a long lazy turn)

we knew we were about 100 yds from the cabin and almost all of it was land or hard ice- we hit the haul ass mode ( imagine 2 kids running in chest waders) ( busted out asses a few times)
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William Parcher said:
Did it look like a humanoid biped?
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kinda/sorta/yes and no

I wouldnt use the word humanoid by my definition- there was nothing humanistic about it.

Biped- at the brief moment I got a quick profile of it - it looked like it was running upright.

However-that view was a fleeting second- after that it was time to leave
 
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