Moderated Bigfoot- Anybody Seen one?

[atpeace]

I know what I saw. I saw a Bigfoot. There have been plenty of encounter stories I have read and heard where the description matches what I saw.

Hey WGBH, are you saying "matches what I saw" in reference to your description of your creature's immense size?

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[atpeace]

General Inquiry:

One of my biggest problems with many bf sighting encounters has been sighting visiblity: distance, lighting, speed of subject and speed of witness (automobile/truck), brevity of sighting, obstructions, monochrome color of subject, etc. I began very rudimentary experiments on this last fall and would like to pick it up again. I would welcome any input on how to scientifically go about my study. If anyone has any ideas they would like to share on how to create scientifically sound experiments on sighting visibility please pm me, I would greatly appreciate it.

thankyou
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[WGBH]

Hey WGBH, are you saying "matches what I saw" in reference to your description of your creature's immense size?

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Both, just look at the sighting report I posted above as an example.

 

[WGBH]

General Inquiry:

One of my biggest problems with many bf sighting encounters has been sighting visiblity: distance, lighting, speed of subject and speed of witness (automobile/truck), brevity of sighting, obstructions, monochrome color of subject, etc. I began very rudimentary experiments on this last fall and would like to pick it up again. I would welcome any input on how to scientifically go about my study. If anyone has any ideas they would like to share on how to create scientifically sound experiments on sighting visibility please pm me, I would greatly appreciate it.

thankyou
ap

Good idea!

 

[beachnut]

Where is the East Texas Bigfoot Brand Fertilizer company? Those giant beasts would be a good source of manure. Someone compared missing people to Bigfoot but it appears if you are missing you would want to be Bigfoot you will be seen even though you don't exist (that is the rub you would not exist, but you are seen). Is Bigfoot an intra-dimensional creature? Bigfoot is seen in this dimension but goes potty in the Bigfoot-do-your-business-here-dimension.

I have never seen the Bigfoot creature and never will because fantasies do not exist, but the illusions, hoaxes, and lies about Bigfoot exist. I have seen those. Do people make money off of Bigfoot by outfitting those groups who go searching for Bigfoot?

Is Bigfoot here for the money?

http://www.cafepress.com/mabrc
To the Mid-America Bigfoot Research Center on-line store, ...

Who is going to market my "Bigfoot Brand Fertilizer", light and airy, like it is almost not there; to be precise exactly not there. Will a bag of hot air sell, can you sell an illusion? Yes http://www.cafepress.com/mabrc

Is believing in an imaginary creature bad? It is profitable for some; is capitalism bad? Freedom to believe and spend our money on whatever we like is cool. But poor Bigfoot is still imaginary; but it will not stop the search for Bigfoot.

 

[Telaynay's G'son]

Sir (Beachnut),

It is the search for bigfoot that drives the economic engine of those searching for the bigfooter's wallets. The ultimate fantasy is that any attendee would actually walk away as a so-called bigfoot researcher (emeritus, of course). That's because it's mainly a weight reduction program as in the poundage of one's bank account.

However, I do understand there will be a course in how to convert a bigfoot research trailer into a mobile meth lab (sarcasm added) as well as the video on current shake & bake meth recipes with the proviso that it's BYOSB (bring your own soda bottle) in order to keep expenses down.

The highlight though will be the contest to determine how many attendees you have to line up until a full set of teeth are attained. I also hear there may even be a bigfoot wrestling contest provided they can find the guy in the monkey suit from last year. Prizes include a (slightly used) set of Billy Bob teeth for Saturday nights as well as other special ocassions.

There will also be a strict dress code as all flip flops must be matching colors.

Y'all come.

 

[HarryHenderson]

.....Meldrum et al. make careers out of bigfootery without any concrete evidence at all. Try to imagine what his career, or anyone's, would be like if they produced a body.....

Oprah wouldn't stand a chance. Actually, I find it hard to imagine the agony Meldrum must go through everyday hoping beyond hope that a body somehow shows up before he passes. Okay, I do wonder what Meldrum is really thinking. I'd not be shocked to see some kind of 'monumental Bigfoot discovery' come down where Meldrum is dead center. Where he then "...takes a faded southbound bus that was low on gas and hope, and almost comically, turns right at Albuquerque..."

 

[kitakaze]

Well, I knew that this thread wouldn't take long to get ugly for you, John. I am telling you, buddy, you can't argue BF with a skeptic. Remember my Christians vs. Atheist example?

Where exactly did this thread turn ugly? Post numbers would be great. Why is a dream/hynogogic hallucination unreasonable?

 

[kitakaze]

 

[tsig]

Ever think that maybe they have seen something and just do not want to come forward with it? If you had a grant to study ferns in the PNW, would you want to ruin that by saying you saw a Bigfoot?

If I had evidence hell yes!!

My fern grant would be small potatoes compared to what I could get for finding BF.

Evidence = hard physical facts

 

[WGBH]

If I had evidence hell yes!!

My fern grant would be small potatoes compared to what I could get for finding BF.

Evidence = hard physical facts

Of course, but I didn't say hard physical evidence. I said a sighting.

 

[tsig]

Of course, but I didn't say hard physical evidence. I said a sighting.

If i saw it why not walk over to where it was and get hard physical evidence?

Scat, hair, anything it might have chewed on, footprints...

 

[LTC8K6]

No I know I saw one. We can do this all day if you want to.

No we can't. I haven't heard anything that suggests you saw a bigfoot, but you are certainly entitled to your beliefs. I don't think you are entitled to claim that you know for certain you saw a bigfoot, but there's nothing I can do about what you claim.

Objective folks can always read and judge what is most likely the truth.

 

[LTC8K6]

I dont need to report anything. I can just ignore them.

That has little to do with it. We can all ignore them. And I didn't ask you to report them.

Ignore who, though?

I don't want that sort of post or poster here.

An accusation has been made that someone here has been ugly to you. That needs to be addressed.

 

[makaya325]

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You need to put him in the Dark PNW forests.

 

[WGBH]

John, I'm not a psychologist, but I sometimes pretend to be one at work.

I don't understanding the horrible fear you felt after your bigfoot encounter. It's not like bigfoot waved a hairy paw/hand in your direction, beams of light shot out of its eyes, and you were suddenly and involuntarily thrown down in a fetal position. From what you've described, it was just some critter sitting there, minding its business, munching on some bushes. Granted, it wasn't an animal you recognized or expected, but it made no threatening gestures in your direction, no roars of rage, no beating of the chest, nothing. Yet you have obviously been deeply affected by the events that day.

I guess I'm scratching my head wondering why? What is it that you found so terrifying about the incident?

RayG

Ray, I have no idea why it messed me up so bad. The animal never threatened me at all. I would love to answer that. All I can tell you is I have never felt fear like that before or since. It was probably just the fact that I was a kid and a "monster" was right there in front of me.

 

[SweatyYeti]

Ray, I have no idea why it messed me up so bad.

The animal never threatened me at all.

I would love to answer that. All I can tell you is I have never felt fear like that before or since. It was probably just the fact that I was a kid and a "monster" was right there in front of me.

Hi John....I have a thought concerning what might have caused you to feel the way you did.

Perhaps it was the fact that the creature you were seeing was not fully human...and not fully gorilla/ape.....but something in-between.

Maybe the "freakiness" of such a creature existing...for real...right in front of your eyes was very unsettling, for you.


Did you get that impression....that it was 'human', to some degree??

 

[kitakaze]

John, why would that person wait 27 years to report seeing a Bigfoot? Saw it in 1976 and reported it in 1993.

Good question William. I can only answer for myself. I waited 16 years to make my BFRO report in 1998. I started to get involved in this field in 2006. I have only begun to discuss my encounter openly in the last year and it is still difficult for me to discuss. So, in effect other then my BFRO report I barely talked about my encounter for 24 years.

John, I have some maybe pointless questions.

The 1993 report of the 1976 encounter with the 9-10 ft Bigfoot with the yellow bloodshot eyes, prominent canines, and shaggy limbs and head by the teenagers with the 12-gauge shotgun and 22-gauge rifle for hunting squirrels (!?) - when did you first read that?

Your report in '98 and your involvement in '06 in Bigfootery with a person who gets together with other Bigfoot enthusiasts and looks for Bigfoot - what was going on between then for those intervening 8 years?

2006 and beginning to discuss in 2008 with your fellow enthusiasts you very own personal sighting as a kid - why the hold up?

 

[kitakaze]

Hi John....I have a thought concerning what might have caused you to feel the way you did.

Perhaps it was the fact that the creature you were seeing was not fully human...and not fully gorilla/ape.....but something in-between.

Maybe the "freakiness" of such a creature existing...for real...right in front of your eyes was very unsettling, for you.


Did you get that impression....that it was 'human', to some degree??

What hominin was ever 9 x 6 ft? That one in front of the armed human. The linked NC report said 9-10 ft. That other one in front of two armed humans. Joycefoot was at the corner of Rt 203 and State Farm Rd in Valatie, NY and was at least 7 ft. At what point does your will to believe burn out and the common sense kick in? That question is as rhetorical as asking why we can't find the biggest land mammals in North America.

 

[WGBH]

John, I have some maybe pointless questions.

The 1993 report of the 1976 encounter with the 9-10 ft Bigfoot with the yellow bloodshot eyes, prominent canines, and shaggy limbs and head by the teenagers with the 12-gauge shotgun and 22-gauge rifle for hunting squirrels (!?) - when did you first read that?

I read it about 2 weeks ago. I saw it posted under new reports, right in the front section and it caught my eye because it was NC.

Your report in '98 and your involvement in '06 in Bigfootery with a person who gets together with other Bigfoot enthusiasts and looks for Bigfoot - what was going on between then for those intervening 8 years?

If you mean personally, I guess the most notable thing would have been getting sober.

2006 and beginning to discuss in 2008 with your fellow enthusiasts you very own personal sighting as a kid - why the hold up?

Kit, I am not following this last question, but do you mean why the hold up telling my fellow enthusiasts? I STILL have trouble discussing my encounter in person, even around Bigfoot friends. It is a lot easier to do on a internet forum like this.

PS. I'm sorry if I got your question wrong.