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I had always kind of wondered why Biden was so poor; turns out that the much-reported figure for his net worth excludes his real estate holdings.
His home sounds pretty nice:
The article analyzes Biden's purchases and sales of other houses. There is a very interesting pattern; Biden tends to buy from and sell to people who have donated to his campaigns:
Now, it is not out of the realm of possibility that Biden's home had appreciated 500% in 20 years. Housing prices soared in the late 1970s so Biden may have gotten in just before the run-up in values. But the odd thing is that when he turned around and bought another property, the owner sold it to him at his cost:
Cochran had paid Biden's full asking price for his prior home, indicating a fairly strong real estate market, but when Stoltz was asked why he sold his land to Biden for the same price he had paid, he claimed it was because it was a soft market. On the other hand, Biden apparently had an appraisal done in 1992 that showed his house worth $1.2 million; the same amount he sold it for four years later. This does indicate that the market was fairly soft in the interval. But you know how it is; now the claim is that the property appreciated 500% in 16 years, not 20, which makes it a little more spectacular.
And perhaps the initial purchase of the home is where the suspicions should be directed:
A 10,000 SF home for $185,000 seems like a pretty good deal even for 1976. And while the article indicates that Biden fixed up the home quite a bit, you do have to wonder why such an estate would have been overgrown and boarded up. Note that we essentially have Biden's word for the condition of the property; it would be interesting to find out what the sellers paid for it and when.
There is discussion of donations to Biden's campaigns from Cochran and other MBNA employees, and Biden's support of bankruptcy reform, a legislative priority for MBNA and other banks. Stolz has also donated to Biden's campaigns, although Stolz claims that Biden has ever supported legislation to benefit him.
It's certainly curious, but hardly conclusive, that Biden's prior home was bought by financial supporters of his campaigns. And the question of the value is indeed significant; remember that what brought down Duke Cunningham was the fact that a defense contractor overpaid him for some property he owned, attracting the attention of the assessor's office.
His home sounds pretty nice:
First elected to the Senate 36 years ago, the former lawyer lives off Barley Mill Road in Greenville -- northern Delaware's priciest area -- on a four-acre lakefront estate in a 7,000-square-foot custom home. Biden also owns a smaller carriage house on his property, where his widowed mother lives.
The article analyzes Biden's purchases and sales of other houses. There is a very interesting pattern; Biden tends to buy from and sell to people who have donated to his campaigns:
In 1996, Biden sold a home in Greenville for the asking price of $1.2 million -- more than six times what he paid two decades earlier -- to John R. Cochran III, a top executive at the MBNA credit card bank that was a longtime political benefactor.
Now, it is not out of the realm of possibility that Biden's home had appreciated 500% in 20 years. Housing prices soared in the late 1970s so Biden may have gotten in just before the run-up in values. But the odd thing is that when he turned around and bought another property, the owner sold it to him at his cost:
Using profits from that sale, Biden paid $350,000 cash to real estate executive and developer Keith D. Stoltz for 4.2 vacant acres -- a long, narrow lot a few miles from Biden's old home. Stoltz had bought that same lot five years earlier for the same price.
Cochran had paid Biden's full asking price for his prior home, indicating a fairly strong real estate market, but when Stoltz was asked why he sold his land to Biden for the same price he had paid, he claimed it was because it was a soft market. On the other hand, Biden apparently had an appraisal done in 1992 that showed his house worth $1.2 million; the same amount he sold it for four years later. This does indicate that the market was fairly soft in the interval. But you know how it is; now the claim is that the property appreciated 500% in 16 years, not 20, which makes it a little more spectacular.
And perhaps the initial purchase of the home is where the suspicions should be directed:
An account of Biden's purchase of his home at 6 Montchan Drive was included in Richard Ben Cramer's 1988 book on presidential candidates, "What It Takes."
"It's the kind of place a thousand Italian guys died building -- hand-carved doorways, a curving hand-carved grand staircase that Clark Gable could have carried a girl down, a library fit for a Carnegie, or Bernard Baruch, someone like that," Cramer wrote. "Joe found it one night, a couple of years after he became a senator.
"He was driving around, like he did back then. He was snooping around Greenville, streets of his dreams, when he saw it, all overgrown, boarded up. Some developer was going to knock it down. ... He got in the developer's face and started talking -- fast," Cramer wrote.
A 10,000 SF home for $185,000 seems like a pretty good deal even for 1976. And while the article indicates that Biden fixed up the home quite a bit, you do have to wonder why such an estate would have been overgrown and boarded up. Note that we essentially have Biden's word for the condition of the property; it would be interesting to find out what the sellers paid for it and when.
There is discussion of donations to Biden's campaigns from Cochran and other MBNA employees, and Biden's support of bankruptcy reform, a legislative priority for MBNA and other banks. Stolz has also donated to Biden's campaigns, although Stolz claims that Biden has ever supported legislation to benefit him.
It's certainly curious, but hardly conclusive, that Biden's prior home was bought by financial supporters of his campaigns. And the question of the value is indeed significant; remember that what brought down Duke Cunningham was the fact that a defense contractor overpaid him for some property he owned, attracting the attention of the assessor's office.