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xjx388 said:
Again, it depends on the merchant and the jurisdiction. Most merchants don't refer to the DA's office. But many do and Bad Check Diversion Programs are very common -they are the way most DAs deal with bad checks.

That many here don't understand this is not surprising. It's a testament to the responsibility of most people and the fact that most bad checks don't get referred for prosecution by the merchant. Most of us have been lucky. No surprise at all.

What's surprising is how such a minor, common occurrence is being used to try and poke holes in the character of a person making sexual assault allegations. It's also somewhat surprising how such a simple, documented process as a Bad Check Diversion Program is so unitelligible to so many smart folks.
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You got any evidence Reade was charged criminally for an innocently bounced check?

Because if not then your post is nothing but some far-fetched hypothetical.
 
SuburbanTurkey said:
Ok folks.

The California criminal code explicitly states that any records shall not be disclosed upon successful completion of a diversion program:

https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/codes_displaySection.xhtml?lawCode=PEN&sectionNum=11105.&article=3.&highlight=true&keyword=purge+diversion

The only criminal record for Reade is one that was purged and citing the bad check law, in which there is an explicit diversion program for settling bad checks.

Also from the law:

Diversion does not require an admittance of guilt. Diversion occurs before prosecution.

https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/codes_displayText.xhtml?chapter=2.9A.&part=2.&lawCode=PEN&title=6.

Reade's claim that her bad check problems were dismissed seems reasonable, likely, and consistent with the common method to resolve bad check claims. There are no records available because the law forbids disclosure of cases that end in diversion.

At this point, anyone claiming this was more serious than a bounced check has the burden of proof. If they can't provide evidence, they are just spreading baseless rumors.
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Of course the charges were dismissed. Just like going to drug and alcohol school results in your drunk driving charges being dropped, or changed to a traffic infraction instead of a DUI charge.

Doesn't mean you weren't driving drunk.

No one here who has innocently bounced a check was charged with a crime, dismissed later or not.

It's ludicrous to expect people to prove an innocently bounced check led to criminal charges. No, that is not which side the burden of proof here lies.
 
wareyin said:
Oh no, according to the CDC we're up to 80,820 today. I'm sure Trump and his fans will be trying to spin it, but that's still a bad number for him and worse for us.
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They are definitely trying to spin it.
President Trump has complained to advisers about the way coronavirus deaths are being calculated, suggesting the real numbers are actually lower — and a number of his senior aides share this view, according to sources with direct knowledge.
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https://www.axios.com/trump-coronavirus-death-toll-d8ba60a4-316b-4d1e-8595-74970c15fb34.html
 
SuburbanTurkey said:
Now you're just making things up. Reade has no other criminal record. There is no theft "case", there's an allegation by a disgruntled pseudo-boss from a charity.
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Exactly WHY do you think the woman who ran the horse rescue was "disgruntled" in the first place? Could that be because she was ripped off by Reade?

Exactly how could charging your own horse's combined $1400 vet bills to the horse rescue be an innocent mistake not once but twice? Two separate bills for two separate vet visits (April 5 and April 19) were charged two separate times. Just how did the vet know who to charge if the vet rescue address was not given to them by Reade? That is not an innocent mistake.

Hummer says that Reade promised to pay her back as evidenced in a FB post by Reade (provided in the article) but the money was never repaid.
https://medium.com/p/e276cac68a2b/responses/show



You've been told before that there was no "pseudo-ex boss" because Reade was a volunteer, not a pseudo-employee. Why the need to repeat this fallacy? Do you think it makes your case sound better? It doesn't.
 
Even putting aside the extensive list of sketchy, unrelated facts concerning Reade, we're still left with an isolated, dated, unprovable accusation from an accuser who praised Biden repeatedly after the purported incident, and who can't get her story straight.

It's sleazy to keep foisting this crap. It's sleazy when Trump foists it, it's sleazy when lefties foist it, and it's sleazy when self-styled critical thinkers foist it.
 
SuburbanTurkey said:
I've noticed there's a lot of classism in both of these allegations.

in the charity "theft" example, Reade attackers can't help but point out that she was hiding a car from the repo man, like that's some grave sin.

And back in the 90's, she bounced a check and got a nastygram from the court, and every indication is that she sorted it out without further incident.

Can't help but notice that these people hate the poor.

She wen't bankrupt in 2012. How long before they latch onto that?

Money problems aren't a moral failing.
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And I can't help but notice how far you bend over backward to hand wave away everything that indicates Reade may not be telling the truth: her changing stories, Reade's praise of Biden on his work against sexual harassment, the failure to produce any evidence of the report she claims she made, the outright denial by three staffers she named that Reade ever made any complaint to them, her defrauding a horse rescue not once, but twice by charging her personal vet bills to it, etc.

It has nothing whatsoever to do with her financial situation/being 'poor'. The woman has a law degree. She is not some disadvantaged hardship case.

Hiding a car from the repo man is dishonest and, in some states, illegal. You can't keep a car you can't pay for.
 
Stacyhs said:
And I can't help but notice how far you bend over backward to hand wave away everything that indicates Reade may not be telling the truth: her changing stories, Reade's praise of Biden on his work against sexual harassment, the failure to produce any evidence of the report she claims she made, the outright denial by three staffers she named that Reade ever made any complaint to them, her defrauding a horse rescue not once, but twice by charging her personal vet bills to it, etc.

It has nothing whatsoever to do with her financial situation/being 'poor'. The woman has a law degree. She is not some disadvantaged hardship case.

Hiding a car from the repo man is dishonest and, in some states, illegal. You can't keep a car you can't pay for.
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There you go reinforcing the point.
 
Sideroxylon said:
There you go reinforcing the point.
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So you think it's honest to keep a car you don't own after you break the terms of the loan contract? Remind me never to loan you any money.

Reade knew her car was in repossession. She was hiding it. That is dishonest. At the same time, she gets Lynn Hummer, the rescue operator, to waive adoption fees for a horse and takes on the responsibilities of paying for board, feed, shoeing, and ...oh, yeah....vet bills. While she can't pay the bank for her car. She also gets a sucker at the horse rescue to start a GoFundMe for Reade so she can get away from her abusive husband. Only......this was between 2014 and 2016 when Reade's husband divorced her in 1996. Nah....Reade is honest and credible.
 
Dr. Keith said:
You are lucky. I have been sent a warrant for writing a hot check to my dry-cleaners for less than $10. I moved and closed down a checking account 2 weeks after writing the check and forgot to make sure it had cleared. The warrant arrived just as I was trying to arrange financing for my first home purchase, quite some time after writing the check.

I called my mortgage broker and he jumped into action to "fix it" so that he didn't lose a closing. I honestly don't know what he did and it has never turned up on any background checks over the decades since.

If the cleaners had simply called me, I would have hand delivered the amount, but they had a clearly posted policy of turning over all bad checks to the local DA. Ever since then I have avoided dealing with business that have such notices posted. It is very disruptive to the customer relationship.

Also, it is obsane how many checks we used to write. But that is likely off topic.
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Nice.
 
Bob001 said:
They are definitely trying to spin it.
President Trump has complained to advisers about the way coronavirus deaths are being calculated, suggesting the real numbers are actually lower — and a number of his senior aides share this view, according to sources with direct knowledge.
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https://www.axios.com/trump-coronavirus-death-toll-d8ba60a4-316b-4d1e-8595-74970c15fb34.html
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Sometimes they go to their car, put on a different hat, put on a different shirt, come in and get coronavirus again.
 
Stacyhs said:
So you think it's honest to keep a car you don't own after you break the terms of the loan contract? Remind me never to loan you any money.

Reade knew her car was in repossession. She was hiding it. That is dishonest. At the same time, she gets Lynn Hummer, the rescue operator, to waive adoption fees for a horse and takes on the responsibilities of paying for board, feed, shoeing, and ...oh, yeah....vet bills. While she can't pay the bank for her car. She also gets a sucker at the horse rescue to start a GoFundMe for Reade so she can get away from her abusive husband. Only......this was between 2014 and 2016 when Reade's husband divorced her in 1996. Nah....Reade is honest and credible.
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What’s unemployment like right now? Be a few hiding cars from repo.
 
Sideroxylon said:
What’s unemployment like right now? Be a few hiding cars from repo.
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Nice try. The economy in 2014-2016 was doing just fine. Low unemployment. For someone who had a law degree, Reade seems to have had a long standing issue with finances. Could be bad luck, could be she just isn't very responsible, could be she just has problems.

I see you ignore the issue with the dates of her GoFundMe and taking on unnecessary and expensive financial responsibilities when she couldn't even pay for her car.

Is needing Biden to be guilty that important to you?
 
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