Biden for President?

[theprestige]

Forget Mandela, let's get to Corn Pop! I don't care what the truth is there, I'm just enchanted with the notion of this character existing in any form.

Partisan though I may be, I am happy that the best Biden story is also a true Biden story.

 

[xjx388]

I’m just waiting for the next group of, “concerned mental health professionals,” to come out with their psychiatric diagnosis of Biden and how his well-documented in the public domain history of confabulations, gaffes and recent incoherence make him “dangerously mentally ill.”

Should be fun to watch. But it probably won’t happen until after the election.

 

[TragicMonkey]

I’m just waiting for the next group of, “concerned mental health professionals,” to come out with their psychiatric diagnosis of Biden and how his well-documented in the public domain history of confabulations, gaffes and recent incoherence make him “dangerously mentally ill.”

Should be fun to watch. But it probably won’t happen until after the election.

Nah, Biden's mental illness isn't dangerous, it's just entertaining. Elect him, roll his chair close to the microphone, and wait for comedy gold. Biden's not going to push any nuke buttons mistaking them for the button that summons Coca-Cola. He's just going to ramble on with grampa stories until the audience bruise their eyes from rolling them so hard.

 

[Stacyhs]

Heh.

Let's see...

Biden ignored the official findings in favor of apocryphal speculation. You'd think that at some point over those six years he'd actually try to get some certainty about what happened, instead of just running with the easier assumption. That's pretty careless.

What did he ignore? There was no official finding that Dunn wasn't drunk because he was never tested. All Biden had to go on was what he was told. The official report said there "was no evidence (Dunn) had been drinking..." But there was also no evidence he hadn't been.

Biden used those apocryphal accounts to publicly disparage someone, causing pain to him and his family. That's pretty callous, wouldn't you say? Even if he did sincerely believe it was true, why say so publicly? Why drag the man's family through that? There's no justice there. That's pretty callous.

It's rather hard to cause pain to someone who is dead. Dunn died in 1999, two years before Biden made one of two mentions of him. Why not say so publicly when he used it to convey his empathy for the families of 9/11 victims?

And if you're right that he wasn't lying, that he sincerely believed those apocryphal accounts... What's the deal with that? He wasn't blinded by grief for going on six years, was he? Shouldn't "trust, but verify" have kicked in at some point before he went public with his allegations? Well, it didn't. That's pretty credulous.

Six years? He made the first public statement almost thirty years after the accident. Why on earth should he go back and verify something he believed to be true for 30 years? As he later told a reporter

“All I said was what I heard at the time. What I heard from folks at the time is he’d been drinking,” Biden said, sounding agitated. “I don’t want to talk about it. . . . She must have pulled out. . . .It’s still painful to talk about 35 years later.”

I suggest you stop flogging a dead horse.

 

[Stacyhs]

The claim that rumors of the drunk-driving may not have come from Biden, but from others, is not one I was previously familiar with, and I suppose that reduces Biden's culpability in spreading them quite a bit.

I think it's a character flaw, though a lesser one, to spread such a slanderous rumor without some serious substantiation. It speaks poorly to him that never publicly apologized, though he has stopped telling that story.

I stand by my claim that Biden appears to be less mentally acute now than he was even 10 years ago. Whether that is ordinary aging, or some form of serious senility, I can't say.

hey, did Joe lie about getting locked up in an apartheid jail? Cause it sure sounds like he did.

I'll respond later. I have things I need to do right now.

 

[Dr. Keith]

"Biden didn't lie-lie; he's just careless, callous, and credulous."

I have to say that is a bit much considering some of your defenses of Trump.

"He lies so much you can't possibly believe he actually grabs pussy."

 

[theprestige]

I’m just waiting for the next group of, “concerned mental health professionals,” to come out with their psychiatric diagnosis of Biden and how his well-documented in the public domain history of confabulations, gaffes and recent incoherence make him “dangerously mentally ill.”

Should be fun to watch. But it probably won’t happen until after the election.

OMG! Can you imagine the global swath of death and destruction that would result, if he made some off the cuff remark about how he thinks maybe Putin is a drunkard? Clearly the fate of humanity rests on preventing a buffoon from becoming President.

 

[xjx388]

Nah, Biden's mental illness isn't dangerous, it's just entertaining. Elect him, roll his chair close to the microphone, and wait for comedy gold. Biden's not going to push any nuke buttons mistaking them for the button that summons Coca-Cola. He's just going to ramble on with grampa stories until the audience bruise their eyes from rolling them so hard.

It all depends on your POV, I guess. One man’s entertaining buffoon is another man’s ultimate-personification-of-evil buffoon.

 

[Mumbles]

Let's not go overboard. Trump is in the White House because of Clinton's catastrophic "It's My Turn!" campaign. How far would she have even gotten in the primaries? If Biden is the aging face of the old Establishment, so is Clinton.

Hillary Clinton's actual slogan in 2016: Stronger Together.

Not "It's my turn!"

 

[Mumbles]

Nah, Biden's mental illness isn't dangerous, it's just entertaining. Elect him, roll his chair close to the microphone, and wait for comedy gold. Biden's not going to push any nuke buttons mistaking them for the button that summons Coca-Cola. He's just going to ramble on with grampa stories until the audience bruise their eyes from rolling them so hard.

Eh, Biden's always been that way during lighter moments - much like Obama loved telling dad jokes in front of his daughters. Not evidence of any sort of mental decline.

(For reference, Dolt 45 is the same person as always, also - yes, he was always an awful person)

 

[theprestige]

Hillary Clinton's actual slogan in 2016: Stronger Together.

Not "It's my turn!"

Stronger Together, I'm With |-|>er, Fighting For Us, Love Trumps Hate

... And those are only the finalists, from a much longer list of ideas that were tested during the campaign.

Meanwhile a lot of people did see a subtext of "my turn!" to her campaign. Don't insult Bob's intelligence by pretending your over-literal reading is actually a rebuttal.

 

[Delvo]

Biden's diminished capacity could even be a good thing. It might make him less likely to keep leading the charge to keep making life even harder & harder for the peasants. (Unfortunately, that cause easily has enough Fedral representation already to carry on without him taking on that particular role in it.)

 

[Delvo]

And those are only the finalists, from a much longer list of ideas that were tested during the campaign.

...which literally included "It's her turn"... but technically not "It's my turn". Totally different.

 

[xjx388]

This is making the rounds.

https://www.nytimes.com/1987/09/22/us/biden-admits-errors-and-criticizes-latest-report.html

Apparently Biden made a few “misstatements” regarding his academic record at a NH stump speech in 1987. Said he graduated in the top half of his law school class. He was actually 76th out of 85. Said he graduated college with 3 degrees. He had only one.

Blamed his misstatements on a faulty memory at the time, when called out on it.

 

[Mumbles]

I think we should be clear:

If you vote for Sanders...cool, that's how things should work.

This guy is a Bernie Stan. He can go away, as far as I care.

 

[Cain]

"Biden didn't lie-lie; he's just careless, callous, and credulous."

I have to say that is a bit much considering some of your defenses of Trump.

It's wild. I almost wish I could see the posts where people catch themselves mid-hypocrisy -- *face twists up* "Oooh! Wait a minute..." *Backspace, backspace, backspace* Anyone concerned about candidates who careless, callous, and credulous should be focused on someone other than Biden...

 

[Stacyhs]

The claim that rumors of the drunk-driving may not have come from Biden, but from others, is not one I was previously familiar with, and I suppose that reduces Biden's culpability in spreading them quite a bit.

Ya think?

I stand by my claim that Biden appears to be less mentally acute now than he was even 10 years ago. Whether that is ordinary aging, or some form of serious senility, I can't say.

Yes, you can say. You and anybody else who tried to push the 'dementia' crap failed to provide any credible evidence of anything remotely supporting "serious senility". What you did was exactly what you accused Biden of doing: spreading a rumor (begun by Sanders supporters).

hey, did Joe lie about getting locked up in an apartheid jail? Cause it sure sounds like he did.

Yes, he did lie about that which I do not support or approve of. It was wrong of him. He's certainly not a perfect man.

 

[Stacyhs]

I have to say that is a bit much considering some of your defenses of Trump.

"He lies so much you can't possibly believe he actually grabs pussy."

It's wild. I almost wish I could see the posts where people catch themselves mid-hypocrisy -- *face twists up* "Oooh! Wait a minute..." *Backspace, backspace, backspace* Anyone concerned about candidates who careless, callous, and credulous should be focused on someone other than Biden...

Yeah, that was rather eye rolling hypocrisy.

Eh, Biden's always been that way during lighter moments - much like Obama loved telling dad jokes in front of his daughters. Not evidence of any sort of mental decline.

(For reference, Dolt 45 is the same person as always, also - yes, he was always an awful person)

All these bitter Bernie supporters must gulp handfuls of Tums.

 

[Stacyhs]

I'd suggest Bernie supporters stop being so sanctimonious; Bernie tends to tell a few whoppers himself:

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/list/?category=&ruling=false&speaker=bernie-sanders

 

[theprestige]

I have to say that is a bit much considering some of your defenses of Trump.

Heh. I was waiting for someone to get there. Remind me again why we need to change from one callous lying bastard horse to another, midstream.

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"He lies so much you can't possibly believe he actually grabs pussy."

That rebuttal works on a different principle. It's an if/then argument: IF you believe that Trump lies so much that you can't believe any claims he makes, especially his boasts, THEN you can't use his boastful claims of evidence of anything he's done.