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Berning down the house!

Lambchops said:
Are we just going to pretend that what happens on the internet is not real?
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Everything "happens" on the internet. That is, every nutty thing one might imagine is posted by some random, anonymous bozo or another.

The problem arises when people read stupid things on the internet written by random bozos and attempt to extrapolate broader meaning.

I'm old, but I'm not dumb.
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Being dumb isn't a prerequisite to being a sucker who is eager to confirm biases.
 
varwoche said:
Everything "happens" on the internet. That is, every nutty thing one might imagine is posted by some random, anonymous bozo or another.

The problem arises when people read stupid things on the internet written by random bozos and attempt to extrapolate broader meaning.

Being dumb isn't a prerequisite to being a sucker who is eager to confirm biases.
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You've completely missed the point.

And no, don't ask me to explain it, because I'm pretty sure you're not going to get it anyway.
 
Lambchops said:
You've completely missed the point.

And no, don't ask me to explain it, because I'm pretty sure you're not going to get it anyway.
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Argumentum ad neenerum. Highly unimpressive.

Consider the position you're staking out here. An anonymous person (Anon1) purportedly posted something on the internet, according to another anonymous person on the internet (Anon2) and you consider it meaningful!? Even though you don't actually know what was purportedly posted.

You're hanging your hat on a vague anecdote twice removed.
 
Lambchops said:
And no, don't ask me to explain it, because I'm pretty sure you're not going to get it anyway.
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I've never understood that kind of behaviour. "Yes, I've got proof for my claim, but I'm not going to show it to you because you're close-minded." That's a self-fulfilling prophecy, which I suspect is the entire point. Presenting said evidence or argument or explanation, assuming it exists, is far riskier.
 
I'm no fan of Sanders and did not support him during the primaries, but if he's the Dem candidate, I'll vote for him in a heartbeat.
 
The_Animus said:
Sanders was recently on The Daily Show taking some audience questions.

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A lot of predictable questions and answers in the first half. Is there anything in the second half I should listen to that isn't the usual platitudes and expected answers?
 
Bernie Sanders' second trip to Iowa.

From my limited experiences in Council Bluffs and Sioux City, among other small towns in Iowa it sure as hell felt like deep conservative country!

Good luck.

https://www.kwqc.com/content/news/P...ally-in-Davenport-Friday-night-508153891.html

Presidential hopeful Bernie Sanders is returning to Iowa this weekend and his first stop will be in Davenport. This is one of six stops he will be making this weekend with the rally in Davenport set to be the biggest of all.

We are told his message will be very Iowa specific. This is not a general message that would make sense anywhere- he is here to talk to local Iowans. Some of the topics we can expect to hear about are Medicare and Medicaid, but most specifically agribusiness.
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Bernie Sanders to speak at Fox News town hall.

"In most respects, I think it is," Sanders told HuffPost on Saturday when asked if Fox News broadcasts were propaganda for President Trump.

Sanders added, however, that there are broadcasters on the network who are "serious" and "fair," noting the town hall he did with host Bret Baier during the 2016 presidential cycle.

"I think they have some people who you can describe as real journalists," he said. "Obviously, most of the station is right-wing propaganda."

Sanders cautioned against completely dismissing the network, considering the millions of viewers that tune in to its programs each day.
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Sanders says he'll slow down pace on campaign trail after heart attack

Sanders spoke to reporters outside his home in Burlington, Vt., after going to see his cardiologist, saying he plans to do fewer events in the near future.

"I certainly intend to be actively campaigning," he said. "I think we can change the nature of the campaign a bit, make sure that I have the strength to do what I have to do."
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https://thehill.com/homenews/campai...low-down-on-campaign-trail-after-heart-attack
 
PhantomWolf said:
I know that it's hard to give up on a dream, but he needs to put his health and family first and pull out. He's coming 3rd in the polls, often not a lot ahead of Harris. It's not worth killing himself over.
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I'd like him to stay in through every last debate, at least.
 
kellyb said:
I'd like him to stay in through every last debate, at least.
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I can understand that and am a little torn on it. I think that there are a lot of good progressive voices this time, and that has split the support he had, which has dropped him into the pack. I don't see him catching Warren and Biden, and so would rather see him still working in the Senate than being in a coffin.
 
PhantomWolf said:
I can understand that and am a little torn on it. I think that there are a lot of good progressive voices this time, and that has split the support he had, which has dropped him into the pack. I don't see him catching Warren and Biden, and so would rather see him still working in the Senate than being in a coffin.
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I definitely don't want him to die!

I just think he'll be fine health-wise just going at a slower pace for a while longer.

He's still an invaluable voice on universal health care. It's really just him and Liz on that. (To be fair, I haven't evaluated Castro's health care plan, but it's unlikely I'd like it as an opening "offer" against the conservative factions.)
 
kellyb said:
I'd like him to stay in through every last debate, at least.
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Why?

The debates are already overcrowded. Having people in the debates that won't win just makes it harder for other candidates to get their message out, as well as increasing the chance of politically damaging attacks against the eventual winner.

Plus there are other candidates occupying similar space on the political spectrum so its not like the far left will be ignored.

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Segnosaur said:
Why?

The debates are already overcrowded. Having people in the debates that won't win just makes it harder for other candidates to get their message out, as well as increasing the chance of politically damaging attacks against the eventual winner.

Plus there are other candidates occupying similar space on the political spectrum so its not like the far left will be ignored.

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So you think it should just be Warren and Biden in the debates now?

Sanders is still waaaay above everyone but them. See: https://www.realclearpolitics.com/e..._democratic_presidential_nomination-6730.html

And no, nobody else really occupies the same ideological space that Bernie "every billionaire is a policy failure" Sanders does. LOL
 
kellyb said:
So you think it should just be Warren and Biden in the debates now?
Sanders is still waaaay above everyone but them. See: https://www.realclearpolitics.com/e..._democratic_presidential_nomination-6730.html

And no, nobody else really occupies the same ideological space that Bernie "every billionaire is a policy failure" Sanders does. LOL
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Never mind the polling numbers. Regardless of where a candidate stands in the polls, if/when they have zero chance of being POTUS, that's when it's time to leave the stage. As of the heart attack, Bernie has zero chance. And most critically, his views are pretty well represented by Warren. Not exact but close enough.
 
How selfish do you have to be to want Bernie to keep running even though it might kill him?








lol
 
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