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Ben Carson is a Creationist

turingtest said:
My wife (who likes Carson) said "so what? What difference does it make if a President believes in the Big Bang and the theory of evolution or not?" To me, it matters, not because of the questions themselves, but because of what it indicates about someone's approach to answering them. Carson is clearly an intelligent man, capable of reasonable and rational thinking- he is a neurosurgeon, after all. But he's completely walled off that rational, intelligent part of himself on these issues because of his religious faith, since both ideas involve uncomfortable implications for that faith. Do we want a man as President who will simply refuse to think when it's an issue that challenges what he wants to believe?
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Exactly.
 
Belz... said:
Slight correction: no one here opposes him based on the fact that he's a Christian.
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Yeah, we oppose him because he's a nut. He could be any kind of nut this nutty and we would still oppose him. I'm opposed to the only nonreligitard in the ring, Trump, because he's a secular nut.
 
turingtest said:
Creationism is kind of a litmus test for me too- as I said, not so much for the belief itself, but for what it says about the thought process of someone who's going to be making potentially life-and-death decisions for million of people. Carson's whole selling point is "the guy must be smart! He's a brain surgeon!" What good is that if he's gonna just switch his own brain off when his faith demands it? Then he's no better than your average dumb cluck; you might as well elect Sarah Palin and be done with it.
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One question I've started asking creationists is, "At what point do you start trusting science?"

It seems with Dr. Carson being a brain surgeon, he's accepted some science, but, does it fall apart when it comes to creationism?
 
The bottom line for me is that when someone strongly endorses any belief without evidence, especially up to the point of fanaticism, he should not be controlling other people's lives with political power. Trump, Davis, Carson, Huckabee, Santorum, etc.
 
Literal end times is a core belief for Seventh Day Adventists.

We most certainly don't need a nut job like Carson anywhere near levers of military power.
 
C_Felix said:
One question I've started asking creationists is, "At what point do you start trusting science?"

It seems with Dr. Carson being a brain surgeon, he's accepted some science, but, does it fall apart when it comes to creationism?
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If he's anything like a guy I know he thinks that God made all that grey stuff and he's standing next to the good doctor during each operation.
 
mgidm86 said:
Obama says he is Christian and Christians believe in creation. In fact almost every politician in Congress claims to be Christian, left and right. Don't they all believe in creation?

How many politicians live their lives "as Jesus would"? Zero? Obama believes making this Iran deal is a good idea - now that is scary.
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The only person who would oppose the Iran deal is someone that wants to live in a Mad Max wasteland. Which is scarier to me than a Christian who also believes in creation.
 
Trebuchet said:
Not according to him. He even has a favorite (non-existent) Bible verse. And he eats the cracker.
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I say secular nut because all the nutty things he claims to think are secular in nature, as supposed to saying nutty religious things.

His claims to be religious are vaporous nonsense. Even the Clintons are more religious.
 
Jrrarglblarg said:
I say secular nut because all the nutty things he claims to think are secular in nature, as supposed to saying nutty religious things.

His claims to be religious are vaporous nonsense. Even the Clintons are more religious.
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Yeah, I was being a bit sarcastic. He has to claim to be religious because it's mandatory for Republicans. He's selling a product.
 
hgc said:
Nope. Some do, I suppose. Some more claim to.
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If you are a Christian,you beleive in creation in that God Creatred the Universe.
But that is not the same as taking the first chapters of Genesis literally.....
 
dudalb said:
If you are a Christian,you beleive in creation in that God Creatred the Universe.
But that is not the same as taking the first chapters of Genesis literally.....
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I'll do my best to steer clear of word games, but what I call a Christian is anyone who calls themself a Christian. I'm pretty sure that there's no particular "standard" Christian belief that you can ascribe to all of them, not even the vague concepts of "creation," "God," and "created" that you mention above.
 
dudalb said:
If you are a Christian,you beleive in creation in that God Creatred the Universe.
But that is not the same as taking the first chapters of Genesis literally.....
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Ummm, ...

I think that statement is far too generalized.

As for me (and I am sure that there are many, many opthers), I have known several Christians who do not believe that God created the universe. By the same token, I have known several other Christians who do believe that it was God who created the universe.
 
hgc said:
I'll do my best to steer clear of word games, but what I call a Christian is anyone who calls themself a Christian. I'm pretty sure that there's no particular "standard" Christian belief that you can ascribe to all of them, not even the vague concepts of "creation," "God," and "created" that you mention above.
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I emphatically second this.
 
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