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belief in SRA in the 21st century

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It seems that by the middle of the 1990s Satanic ritual abuse fell off the radar of most people, but it still seems there are people that continue to believe in it. and i was wondering just how common are beliefs in SRA today, is Neil Brick and SMART the only major promoter of such ideas today?

Also what about "evidence" that these SRA believers bring up? like this fella here, from what i can find out he STILL believes in SRA as of this day:jaw-dropp http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRiRN7Xiv_I
 
It seems to have largely faded to the fringes, and fortunately, some of the media seems to have realized it.
I remember an episode of "Criminal Minds" from 2005 in which the FBI team on the show was sent to a small town to investigate what appeared to be a ritual murder (it wasn't). At one point, the town Sheriff commented to the agent in charge of the team "You guys must see this sort of thing all the time...Satanic killings?". The agent looked at him, gave him a completely deadpan "No, not really", and walked away. Another agent discussed the Satanic Panic of the past and how there was no evidence that anything had ever actually happened.

Personally, I'm glad that I'm no longer suspected of being a Satanist, a serial killer, or suicidal just because I have a hobby that involves rolling oddly-shaped dice. :D

Unfortunately, paranoia seems to obey the Law of Conservation of Matter and Energy. It doesn't go away; it just assumes another form somewhere else.
For example, the story that 20/20 aired after Columbine, which portrayed Goths as a murderous, nationwide, street gang comparable to "the Bloods and Crips of the big cities." They even had a "gang expert" from the Denver Police Department who held seminars to educate people on the dangers of "The Gothic Movement".
Why does that seem familiar?
 
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It seems that by the middle of the 1990s Satanic ritual abuse fell off the radar of most people, but it still seems there are people that continue to believe in it. and i was wondering just how common are beliefs in SRA today, is Neil Brick and SMART the only major promoter of such ideas today?

Also what about "evidence" that these SRA believers bring up? like this fella here, from what i can find out he STILL believes in SRA as of this day:jaw-dropp http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRiRN7Xiv_I

We've had a thread running for over a year about "satanic ritual abuse", "multiple personality/dissociative identity disorder" and "recovered memory" belief.

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=246185

The International Society for the Study of Trauma and Dissociation (ISST-D) is the main conduit for this nonsense. It has nearly 800 members (psych "professionals" and therapists) worldwide. Around 500 of those members are in the USA.

While this is not a huge number proportionate to the total psych professionals and therapists in the world, there is still a significant amount of damage being done to individuals, their families, and those accused of SRA without any evidence.
 
...more common than you might think

i was wondering just how common are beliefs in SRA today, is Neil Brick and SMART the only major promoter of such ideas today?

Neil Brick is not the only promoter, and I've noticed two things (among many others, I'm sure) that keep these ideas alive:

1] Although it's pervasive, it's also relatively obscure. As you said, for most people it has fallen off the radar. Even when people hear of recent events, it's very easy to write it off as an anomaly and assume it's not a problem anymore. That mentality allows the whole problem to fester, unknown to much of the public but still causing plenty of damage.

2] As Orphia said, although the number of professionals who promote a belief in SRA is comparatively small, many of them are considered "experts" and are respected by their colleagues. Colin Ross, Richard Kluft, Valerie Sinason and Joyana Silberg are all facilitators of these beliefs, and they are often called in as expert witnesses in trials. So, while they are a small group, they have enough power and influence to keep spreading these delusions throughout the mental health field, where they eventually trickle down to individuals (clients) and their families.

Randy Noblitt, whose "expert" testimony helped get the Kellers wrongfully convicted, is an active faculty member at Alliant International University, where he still teaches a course on "ritual abuse". Noblitt and his wife have made no secret that they still cling to their SRA beliefs and their belief that the Kellers were guilty, even now that the Kellers have been released. Alan Scheflin, another SRA believer, is on the faculty at Santa Clara University.

Both of these men have respected positions on the faculties of their universities where they teach impressionable students, and both are called upon in court to lend their expertise, and the problem just goes on and on.

Another way the problem is spread is through the "new" therapy models being used. Richard Schwartz developed a therapy model in which clinicians train their clients to think of themselves as having various "parts", and they use things like hypnosis, "trance", and guided imagery to allow the "parts" to communicate with one another and "disclose" things. It's just a repackaged version of Repressed Memory Therapy. And Schwartz isn't the only one; there are other similar therapy models, and mental health clinicians often receive Continuing Education Credits for learning them.

I really hope people will begin to realize that this problem is more widespread than it appears, that it's not limited to religious groups or fringe populations, and that it still has the potential to do a great deal of damage. I want to see this problem exposed and understood as the public health menace it is.
 
but what do you think people who claimed to have been abused in "modern"? times (post satanic panic) was it "regular" abuse plus mental illness/suggstive therapy that made them believe so, just like it was during those good old days?
 
I think there may be a slight resurgence in claims or at least discussion of the "existence" of SRA, due to the resurgence of Christian fundamentalism in the US and also perhaps because the very young children alleged by their parents to be victims of SRA back in the panic's heyday are now adult "survivors" and capable of promoting the "reality" of SRA.

As mentioned already though, the resurgence is not very significant; such cases are still considered pretty oddball by the general public when they come up.
 

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