Bee death: the true explanation

[Antranik1]

DO NOT use postdictive proofs, like " OMG BEES DIED IT WAS CAUSE ALL THE BEE SOULS GOT USED UP LOLOL ". That is rubbish.

hhahaha that was hilarious! Thanks for the laugh.

Wolfgang, my dearest apologizes, it's nothing against you.

 

[KateHL]

Fun Fact!: Nuh-uh.

 

[MattusMaximus]

BTW, there could be this possibility to increase honey production without decreasing the number of bees elsewhere: The same bee souls must work always there where the season is ideal, e.g. from April to October in North America and from October to April in South America.

Cheers, Wolfgang

Only four centuries ago heliocentrism was considered by the vast majority of educated man as nonsensical as panpsychism still today

 

[biostudent]

Where does a bee go to the bathroom?

/pout

No one knows that old joke? They go pee at a BP station! (and no we don't have BP stations in Canada anymore, but I still know the joke, lol)

 

[Dr. Imago]

we calculate that around 1 gram of honey is harvested per bee. So for the honey world production of around 1.4 million tons, around 1.4 trillion bees are needed. From the dramatic reduction in the number of wild honeybees over the last decades we can conclude that most honeybee souls are now working in the honey production for us. Thus a reasonable guess could be the number of around 2 trillion (2,000,000,000,000) honey bee souls.

Oh, I see. So, every honey bee colony in the world is harvested then, right? This is how you account for your numbers, correct?

-Dr. Imago

 

[zeusbheld]

and here all this time i thought it was from excess phlogiston residue resulting from overconsumption of fossil fuels (bees have been using far too much petroleum-based fuel lately).

 

[Cuddles]

I thought this was related to Cell Phones.

Further proof that cell phones should not be used in flight.

 

[wogoga]

Thus a reasonable guess could be the number of around 2 trillion (2,000,000,000,000) honey bee souls.

Oh, I see. So, every honey bee colony in the world is harvested then, right? This is how you account for your numbers, correct?

After the "dramatic reduction in the number of wild honeybees", the majority of honeybees is probably harvested now. The calculated value of two trillion honeybee souls is the result of e.g. the following premises:

• Honey world production is around 1.4 billion kg per year
• An avergage harvested bee colony consists in summer of 50,000 bees and produces per year on average 50 kg harvested honey
• Saturation of an average colony in summer is 80% (i.e. out of 100 colony bee souls, 80 souls are alive as bees at the same time)
• 85% of the all honeybees worldwide are harvested

We get:

• 1.4 billion kg / (50 kg / 50,000 bees) / 0.85 / 0.8 ) = 2 trillion

This is only a first guess, future will clear up this question.

Fertility is now low not only in the case of honeybees, but also in the case of cattle:

"A quarter century of declining fertility in dairy cattle has meant that a major problem now facing the UK farming sector is the very poor reproductive performance of high-yielding cows." (Source)​

In the case of horses however, fertilty is high:

"Largely unchecked by natural predators, wild horse populations grow at rates of 18-25% per year." (Source)​

So why have wild honeybee populations been decreasing in size whereas wild horse populations been increasing? If one deals with the problem in an unprejudiced way, then the answer is trivial.

Cheers, Wolfgang

 

[Darth Rotor]

Fertility is now low not only in the case of honeybees, but also in the case of cattle

That is due to all the wife swapping parties attended by bees and cattle.

In their sordid pursuit of exotic forms of fornication, they forget that interspecies breeding, particularly between Insect and Animal kingdoms, doesn't work.

DR

 

[wogoga]

Colony Collapse Disorder (CCD)

Colony Collapse Disorder is the phenomenon in which worker bees from a bee hive abruptly disappear. Healthy bees may not develop, or fly away from the hive and never return, leaving behind only an egg-laying queen and a few young workers. The explanation of this phenomenon is obvious: There are not enough honey bee souls for the growing demand all over the world.

The explanation that healthy bees never return to their hives is especially interesting:

The souls of evolutionarily related less social or even solitary bees develop in such honey bee hives. Because instinctive behaviour originates from the soul and not from genetics, these bees simply continue to behave like non-honey bees, despite genetically being genuine honey bees.​

(Because imitation is a fundamental principle of biological evolution, souls of solitary bees can evolve into genuine honey-bee souls, if they are regularly born among a majority of such honey bees.)

Cheers, Wolfgang

Simplicity correlates with truth

 

[Megalodon]

Colony Collapse Disorder is the phenomenon in which worker bees from a bee hive abruptly disappear. Healthy bees may not develop, or fly away from the hive and never return, leaving behind only an egg-laying queen and a few young workers. The explanation of this phenomenon is obvious: There are not enough honey bee souls for the growing demand all over the world.

The explanation that healthy bees never return to their hives is especially interesting:

The souls of evolutionarily related less social or even solitary bees develop in such honey bee hives. Because instinctive behaviour originates from the soul and not from genetics, these bees simply continue to behave like non-honey bees, despite genetically being genuine honey bees.​

(Because imitation is a fundamental principle of biological evolution, souls of solitary bees can evolve into genuine honey-bee souls, if they are regularly born among a majority of such honey bees.)

Cheers, Wolfgang

Simplicity correlates with truth

This is so.... interesting.

or deranged, one of the two...


Questions:

-Can you provide evidence for the existence of souls?
-Can you provide evidence for the existence of bee souls?
-Can you provide evidence for the claim "instinctive behaviour originates from the soul and not from genetics"?
-Can you tell us what you're smoking? It seem potent...

 

[wollery]

The souls of evolutionarily related less social or even solitary bees develop in such honey bee hives. Because instinctive behaviour originates from the soul and not from genetics, these bees simply continue to behave like non-honey bees, despite genetically being genuine honey bees.

And yet the Japanese can't get souls from other human populations. Animals can get souls from different species, but human souls can't even cross cultural boundaries.

 

[Whack01]

Nonsense! Everybody knows the bee's have all flown to the great pyramid at which they are awaiting the return of the bee king in his spaceship.

(actually its a combination of fungus and virus.)

 

[Nancarrow]

A typical statement:

"A dramatic spate of bee deaths is being observed in the USA. In many regions almost 90 percent of the population has been affected. In Germany and Switzerland too, colony numbers have virtually halved in the last 15 years. But what are the causes?" (from afaa.com.au/news/n_news-2022.asp)

The primary cause of this bee death is very simple: there are not enough bee souls for the growing honey production all over the world. Many of the bee souls working now in East Asia and South America still worked in Europe and North America some years ago. The most efficient way to increase the world-wide honey production would consist in exterminating all species closely related to the honey bee. Yet it is clear that the souls of such related species need some lives as honey bees before they can be efficient honey bees themselves.

The limited number of souls having developed during evolution of life ("the psychon theory") explains why domestication and aquaculture inevitably lead to a reduction in the corresponding wild populations. It also explains the spreading of lowest-low fertility among humans around the world ("demographic saturation").

Cheers, Wolfgang

Hah! Cool, Wolfgang! What a spot-on parody of that loon who keeps spouting off about 'the limited number of souls' in... er, hang on a sec...

(glances to left)

oh.

 

[wogoga]

The decline in wild bumblebees

Also the reason of the dwindling numbers of bumblebees in free nature ultimately results from the limited number of bumblebee souls. Bumblebees are more and more commercially raised and sold around the world for greenhouse pollination. These increasing numbers in commercially raised populations inevitably lead to a decline in the wild populations.

A quote from www.bumblebee.org:

Bumblebees are found mainly in northern temperate regions, though there are a few native South American species and New Zealand has some naturalised species that were introduced around 100 years ago to pollinate red clover. ... With the recent popularity of using bumblebees in glasshouse pollination they will probably be found in most parts of the world before long, especially Bombus terrestris which seems to be the most popular species sold for this purpose.​

In the same way as in the case of aquaculture, hypotheses of a causal effect from artificially raised forms to the decrease in wild forms are regularly brought forward. A typical example:

Bumble bee expert Dr. Robbin Thorp has hypothesized that wild populations of four closely related North American humble bees - ... - were infected with an introduced disease carried by commercially reared bumble bee colonies. In the early 1990's, Common Eastern and Western Bumble Bees were shipped to Europe and reared in the same facilities as the European Buff-tailed Bumble Bee, then returned to the U.S. for use as commercial pollinators. Dr. Thorp suggests that, while in Europe, the Common Eastern and Western Bumble Bees were exposed to a pathogen of the European Buff-tailed Bumble Bee for which they had no prior resistance. ... The close relationship of the bees in decline to the European Buff-tailed Bumble Bee, as well as the timing, speed and severity of the population crashes suggest that an escaped exotic disease organism may be the cause of these widespread losses.​

It is clear that within a purely materialist world view such an "exotic disease organism" seems to be the most likely explanation.

However, if we give up the prejudices of reductionist materialism (philosophically rooted in naive realism) and try out a pandualist world view, then we can easily recognize the true reason of the "timing, speed and severity of the population crashes":

Not the bumblebees which returned to the U.S. caused the decline in the wild, but those reared in the European (and in other) facilities, thus depleting the psychons of the wild populations.​

Maybe it will necessary to somehow (e.g. by legal means) limit the number of bumblebees in greenhouses in order not to further deplete the numbers of wild bumblebee populations.

Cheers, Wolfgang

For being unprejudiced one must always start fighting anew!

 

[wogoga]

Worldwide production of honey from 1992 to 2012 according to UN Food & Agriculture Organization:

Despite all the claims to the contrary, pollination by harvested bees has been continuously increasing. We conclude that decreasing honeybee populations in some regions/ countries must be paralleled by increasing populations in other regions/ countries.

Apart from using the same bee souls during northern-hemisphere winter in the southern hemisphere and vice versa (thus making unnecessary winter survival), also special varroa-mite breeding could increase bee pollination and honey production. (It is an empirical fact that animal breeding leads to a decrease in the corresponding not-bred populations (see).

Cheers, Wolfgang

 

[jaydeehess]

Bees have bee souls.

Humans have human souls.

Whales have whale souls.

Bacteria have bacteria souls.

Those curious creatures that live at the edges of Black Smokers in the briney deeps have curious creatures that live at the edges of Black Smokers in the briney deeps souls.

Stars have star souls. (Apologies to Olaf Stapledon).

And Canadians have no souls. :sniff:

We don't need them, we are polite anyway.

 

[Faydra]

Our comet lander has one too.

Philae of soul.

 

[Ziggurat]

Damn the good souled bees.

That's precisely the problem: they aren't damned.

 

[CORed]

Ah. Oh. That fixes the theory. I may yet become a believer. Should we start annoying bees so they are not good enough to go to heaven?

I don't recommend annoying bees if your allergic to their sting.