Split Thread BBC news reporting

[Carrot Flower King]

I think you mean abolished rather than imposed? And is this the right thread?

Corrected, thank you.

Yeah, I meant it to be here, as it struck me as an example of slanted Beeb reporting, as it pretty much always has been on this topic. Although it could also go in UK politics.

 

[P.J. Denyer]

Corrected, thank you.

Yeah, I meant it to be here, as it struck me as an example of slanted Beeb reporting, as it pretty much always has been on this topic. Although it could also go in UK politics.

TBH it's true of almost any outlet in the UK..

 

[Gulliver Foyle]

Following on from teh gubbmint's climbdown on IHT for farmers, I've just heard the most soft soap interview of a farmer by Evan Davies on PM: wouldn't pin the bod down on exactly how much, if at all, the family would be affected; wouldn't pin them down on why they have not already taken the obvious steps; let the bod trot out all the "guardians of the countryside" BS, even though the farm's land is mostly within a town; let the bod imply they were long-standing "forever farmers", even though the bod's parents bought the farm as a lifestyle choice in the '80s, i.e. around the time Thatcher's mob abolished IHT on farm land.

FFS, it was straight out of the NFU play book, rather than any attempt at a balanced, factual interview.

Anybody who knows anything about British farming knows that no actual farmers will be affected by the inheritance tax rules at either the higher or lower levels as they're all tenants.

It's only the greedy landlords who would have had to pay anything at the lower level, and frankly that kind of land owner should be paying masses of all kinds of taxes with an income (not profits, gross) threshold of £0.

 

[smartcooky]

Posting this here and in the "A Revolution Could Soon Be Under Way in Iran" thread as its relevant to both.


Someone will be along soon to tell us all that this is GB News so the former BBC presenter being interviewed is a lying far-right extremist thug

 

[Mojo]

Posting this here and in the "A Revolution Could Soon Be Under Way in Iran" thread as its relevant to both.


Someone will be along soon to tell us all that this is GB News so the former BBC presenter being interviewed is a lying far-right extremist thug

I think I'll tell you that it's currently the top story on the BBC news website.

 

[Andy_Ross]

I think I'll tell you that it's currently the top story on the BBC news website.

It has been too story for days and featured every day since it started.

 

[steenkh]

Someone will be along soon to tell us all that this is GB News so the former BBC presenter being interviewed is a lying far-right extremist thug

Pity there is no transcript.
But I am surprised if the "left" should have a particularly fond view about the Iranian dictatorship.

 

[smartcooky]

Pity there is no transcript.

Yeah, I didn't do one this time. The video-averse on this forum bleat and moan about having to click on a video, and tell me they'd rather read a summary or a transcript, so I do what they want, and then some busybody mod snips 99% of it. That's a lot of work to satisfy the requirements people who are either too lazy, or lack the attention span, to watch a few minutes of video.

Apparently, posting a transcript is a rule violation (who knew) so I won't be doing that again. I will post videos in future and the video-averse can either click on it, or not, I dont care.

But I am surprised if the "left" should have a particularly fond view about the Iranian dictatorship.

Yeah, go figure eh? Iran under its current totalitarian regime is an the enemy of Israel. They're not really strange bedfellows when you consider the left is anti-Israel, anti-Zionism and anti-Jewish.

 

[smartcooky]

It has been too story for days and featured every day since it started.

"Featured" is doing a LOT of heavy lifting in that statement. The protests have been going for almost 20 days (first reports on the news outlets I follow, e.g. Tousi TV, started reporting on it about 28 December). The Guardian first reported the protests five days later, and even then, they framed it as "economic protests". I posted the thread here on January 5.

The BBC may have reported a few column inches well down the page since it started, but they didn't start featuring it until other news outlets (GB News, Talk TV, The Telegraph, Reuters, NPR and the AP Wire) already had it as a major headline.

 

[Mojo]

Pity there is no transcript.
But I am surprised if the "left" should have a particularly fond view about the Iranian dictatorship.

You have to remember that the right are firmly of the "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" persuasion, and incapable of distinguishing between Zionism and Judaism.

 

[Darat]

"Featured" is doing a LOT of heavy lifting in that statement. The protests have been going for almost 20 days (first reports on the news outlets I follow, e.g. Tousi TV, started reporting on it about 28 December). The Guardian first reported the protests five days later, and even then, they framed it as "economic protests". I posted the thread here on January 5.

The BBC may have reported a few column inches well down the page since it started, but they didn't start featuring it until other news outlets (GB News, Talk TV, The Telegraph, Reuters, NPR and the AP Wire) already had it as a major headline.

Nonsense.

 

[smartcooky]

Nonsense.

What, specifically, do you think is "nonsense'?

 

[Darat]

Your time line.

 

[Planigale]

"Featured" is doing a LOT of heavy lifting in that statement. The protests have been going for almost 20 days (first reports on the news outlets I follow, e.g. Tousi TV, started reporting on it about 28 December). The Guardian first reported the protests five days later, and even then, they framed it as "economic protests". I posted the thread here on January 5.

The BBC may have reported a few column inches well down the page since it started, but they didn't start featuring it until other news outlets (GB News, Talk TV, The Telegraph, Reuters, NPR and the AP Wire) already had it as a major headline.

It depends do you follow BBC Persia? They have been reporting this from the beginning.

صفحه اول - BBC News فارسی

سایت فارسی بی‌بی‌سی تازه‌ترین اخبار و گزارش ها درباره ایران و افغانستان و جهان در حوزه سیاست، اقتصاد، جامعه و فرهنگ و همچنین ویدیو، گزارش‌های تصویری و برنامه‌های تلویزیون فارسی را به شما ارائه می‌دهد.

www.bbc.com

 

[Carrot Flower King]

We have had 10 minutes (15 if you count a vaguely related discussion about grief and memory) of PM and now nearly 5 minutes of the Six O'Clock News concerning the petty, washing private dirty laundry in public of certain parts of our robber baron classes (the Spencers, who can't even spell the name of their big house, and the Mountbatten-Windsors, who can't make their minds up what their names are)...Just shows that Hazza is a chip off the Spencer block, getting his whinging in first.

Who, aside from utter sycophants and idiots, is remotely concerned?

How many other things are going on in the country or world which are of greater importance and relevance to everyday life?

Shirley the Beeb could set up a specific royal channel for those who want this sort of ◊◊◊◊◊ and keep it off proper news and current affairs? The squabbling of our remarkably still extant robber baron classes is not current affairs (their continued existence and power might be, but that is never discussed) nor is it news (it is personal bickering and no bugger else's business).

Zaphod Beeblebrox: your time is now.

 

[smartcooky]

The British Bias Company to a tee!!

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[a_unique_person]

The British Bias Company to a tee!!

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Tim Pool, the guy who gets paid in rubles?

 

[smartcooky]

Tim Pool, the guy who gets paid in rubles?

Attacking the arguer, never the argument as usual.

Yeah, Tim Pool is a far right idiot, and you're right, he probably does earn rubles from Vlad, but I'm more interested in whether what he is saying is true than who he is. I don't give a flying ◊◊◊◊ who he is or what he's about. The truth is the truth, no matter who speaks it... but is what he said true, about the ABC and its "Mission-driven reporting"? All I can say is, I see no reason to call him a liar, and no-one he named has denied the truth of what he said.

When think about how the standard of news reporting has plummeted in the last two decades, I am often reminded of Will McAvoy's monologue in the opening episode of "The Newsroom" (2012)...

​

"We stood up for what was right. We fought for moral reasons. We passed laws, struck down laws for moral reasons. We waged wars on poverty, not poor people. We sacrificed. We cared about our neighbors. We put our money where our mouths were and we never beat our chest. We built great big things, made ungodly technological advances, explored the universe, cured diseases, and we cultivated the world’s greatest artists and the world’s greatest economy. We reached for the stars, acted like men. We aspired to intelligence. We didn’t belittle it. It didn’t make us feel inferior. We didn’t identify ourselves by who we voted for in the last election and we didn’t– we didn’t scare so easy… Huh… Ahem, we were able to be all these things and do all these things because we were informed. By great men, men who were revered."​

Those "great men" (and women) he talks about? They set the gold standard for broadcast journalism - people like Walter Cronkite, Peter Jennings, Dan Rather, Tom Brokaw, Barbara Walters. In the UK there was Sir Trevor McDonald, Richard Baker, Kenneth Kendall, Sir Alastair Burnet, Angela Ripon, and Kate Adie. They brought us the news, raw, unfiltered, unsullied by tribal or identity politics or special interest groups - they reported the news, warts-and-all, and allowed the public to draw their own conclusions.. They never told us what to think, who to beleive, how to feel or what opinion we should have or not have the way that news organizatrons do now.

Sadly, there are very few real broadcast journalists left. The wonderful Lesley Stahl is one.... can't think of any others. Those major news organizations are a shadew of their former selves. Too many special interest groups embedded, filtering content, curating news to match a narrative.

 

[jimbob]

Attacking the arguer, never the argument as usual.

Yeah, Tim Pool is a far right idiot, and you're right, he probably does earn rubles from Vlad, but I'm more interested in whether what he is saying is true than who he is. I don't give a flying ◊◊◊◊ who he is or what he's about. The truth is the truth, no matter who speaks it... but is what he said true, about the ABC and its "Mission-driven reporting"? All I can say is, I see no reason to call him a liar, and no-one he named has denied the truth of what he said.

When think about how the standard of news reporting has plummeted in the last two decades, I am often reminded of Will McAvoy's monologue in the opening episode of "The Newsroom" (2012)...

​

"We stood up for what was right. We fought for moral reasons. We passed laws, struck down laws for moral reasons. We waged wars on poverty, not poor people. We sacrificed. We cared about our neighbors. We put our money where our mouths were and we never beat our chest. We built great big things, made ungodly technological advances, explored the universe, cured diseases, and we cultivated the world’s greatest artists and the world’s greatest economy. We reached for the stars, acted like men. We aspired to intelligence. We didn’t belittle it. It didn’t make us feel inferior. We didn’t identify ourselves by who we voted for in the last election and we didn’t– we didn’t scare so easy… Huh… Ahem, we were able to be all these things and do all these things because we were informed. By great men, men who were revered."​

Those "great men" (and women) he talks about? They set the gold standard for broadcast journalism - people like Walter Cronkite, Peter Jennings, Dan Rather, Tom Brokaw, Barbara Walters. In the UK there was Sir Trevor McDonald, Richard Baker, Kenneth Kendall, Sir Alastair Burnet, Angela Ripon, and Kate Adie. They brought us the news, raw, unfiltered, unsullied by tribal or identity politics or special interest groups - they reported the news, warts-and-all, and allowed the public to draw their own conclusions.. They never told us what to think, who to beleive, how to feel or what opinion we should have or not have the way that news organizatrons do now.

Sadly, there are very few real broadcast journalists left. The wonderful Lesley Stahl is one.... can't think of any others. Those major news organizations are a shadew of their former selves. Too many special interest groups embedded, filtering content, curating news to match a narrative.

Well, summarise his argument and don't just post a link to someone who lives and makes up evidence.

He's no more reliable than Goebbels.

 

[Darat]

Is there a non-facebook source? I try not to do Facebook.