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Split Thread BBC news reporting

P.J. Denyer said:
Simon Clark, for context, is known for being the director of FOREST, a pro tobacco lobby group and spin off group 'The Free Society' which campaigns against government intervention to promote healthy eating. FOREST is funded by the tobacco industry, we could make some guesses as to who funds TFS.
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And this is valid to a discussion on BBC bias because....
 
3point14 said:
He's stated that he holds the BBC to a higher standard.

My personal view is that the BBC is attacked by Billionaire media owners as it's very difficult to do a Fox News and utterly gaslight one's audience when there's a reasonable, factual reporter of great reputation providing a brake on the abject ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊◊ that Murdoch and others would like to sell you.

If the BBC dies, we will see the UK go the way of the USA and have a growing poulation of people with 'facts' that vary so much from reality that they believe fantastic things such as 'Trump is doing a good job'.
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None of the journalists I have read or watched want the BBC to "die". They want the the BBC to do better!
 
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smartcooky said:
Well then maybe you are looking at the wrong sources 😏
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Most of them do not say they want to scrap the BBC, but they do say they want to end public funding such as by scrapping the license fee.

If that is the case, then the BBC will likely become subject to the same kinds of incentives as other large media organizations, pleasing advertisers or audiences etc...

I would rather that they continue to be publicly funded and continue to annoy people on various sides of the political spectrum instead of pandering to them like the garbage that passes for "news" on cable channels, or going the Piers Morgan/Julia Hartley-Brewer route of shovelling spicy debates to people who want to be entertained.
 
angrysoba said:
Most of them do not say they want to scrap the BBC, but they do say they want to end public funding such as by scrapping the license fee.

If that is the case, then the BBC will likely become subject to the same kinds of incentives as other large media organizations, pleasing advertisers or audiences etc...

I would rather that they continue to be publicly funded and continue to annoy people on various sides of the political spectrum instead of pandering to them like the garbage that passes for "news" on cable channels, or going the Piers Morgan/Julia Hartley-Brewer route of shovelling spicy debates to people who want to be entertained.
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Just look at what Trump has done to the commercial press on the US. He has used political pressure to manipulate them to significantly change their reporting. His cronies own the streaming platforms.
 
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As the thread is now open again....
It seems there is no evidence of the much asserted institutional bias.

www.theguardian.com

Claims of systemic problems with BBC news coverage disputed by former adviser

Caroline Daniel tells MPs leaked memo by Michael Prescott that sparked resignations at BBC did not provide full picture
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‘Blind spots’ but no institutional bias: key points after MPs question senior BBC figures

A parliamentary select committee has questioned Michael Prescott, the adviser who wrote the memo that led to the resignation of the BBC’s director general, Tim Davie
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Also, there may be bias in the accusations of bias:
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BBC board member with Tory links ‘led charge’ in systemic bias claims, say insiders

Sources say Robbie Gibb amplified criticisms of Trump, Gaza and trans rights coverage, and had ‘a lot of oxygen in the room’
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catsmate said:
I note that the BBC doesn't seem to be carrying this story of the latest Israeli murders...
www.theguardian.com

Video shows Israeli forces shooting Palestinians dead moments after surrender

Far-right minister defends killing of two men who appeared to have given themselves up, saying ‘terrorists must die’
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www.bbc.co.uk

West Bank: Israeli troops kill two Palestinians after they appear to surrender

The Palestinian Authority says the killings are a "war crime", while an Israeli minister backed the soldiers.
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"The BBC Is A Liberal CULT" - Allison Pearson
Allison Pearson is a British columnist and author. She has worked for British newspapers such as the Daily Mail, The Independent, the Evening Standard, The Daily Telegraph, and the Financial Times. She has also worked as a presenter for Channel 4 and BBC Radio 4.

....we've actually had veteran journalists like Mark Urban. who was a Newsight defense editor for many years talking about meetings where younger colleagues, you know the sort of poe-faced Maoist young social justice warriors would be vetoing guests like JK Rowling or Rod Liddle on the grounds that they were bigots or you know just couldn't be had on the program. So I think the BBC is colonized by that mindset and one of the things Michael Prescott mentioned.​
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I think there was a day where it was the most number of people coming across the channel in the small boats. No coverage of that at all. So lots of what the BBC does isn't just citing statistics from the Gaza Health Ministry as if they haven't been made up by Hamas. Okay? But there are sins of commission and sins of omission. So you leave out, you don't mention that, or you don't invite Scottish nurses on, or Darlington nurses who haven't wanted to get changed with men called Sue - which which we know has happened. So it's an institution that's it's always been a liberal institution. I mean I used to work years ago in the 1990s for the BBC. It's always been liberal left. but where it is now is just crazy really. Its Corbynist left now. At best BBC represents 20% of the country. That's at best - and it takes money from the further 80% who it tries to lecture about its values and behavior by indoctrination. And I think it's taxation without representation because millions of people in our country can watch the news and think or watch a sitcom, whatever, and think this bears no resemblance to [reality]. But there's a finger wagging Auntie knows best.​
 
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catsmate said:
I note that the BBC doesn't seem to be carrying this story of the latest Israeli murders...
www.theguardian.com

Video shows Israeli forces shooting Palestinians dead moments after surrender

Far-right minister defends killing of two men who appeared to have given themselves up, saying ‘terrorists must die’
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com
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www.bbc.com

West Bank: Israeli troops kill two Palestinians after they appear to surrender

The Palestinian Authority says the killings are a "war crime", while an Israeli minister backed the soldiers.
www.bbc.com www.bbc.com

Wasn't even difficult to find.
 
smartcooky said:
"The BBC Is A Liberal CULT" - Allison Pearson
Allison Pearson is a British columnist and author. She has worked for British newspapers such as the Daily Mail, The Independent, the Evening Standard, The Daily Telegraph, and the Financial Times. She has also worked as a presenter for Channel 4 and BBC Radio 4..l
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yes, the BBC is clearly silencing right-wing voices.
 
junkshop said:
yes, the BBC is clearly silencing right-wing voices.
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You didn't even watch (or if you did, then you did so wearing earplugs and a mind that is firmly bolted shut).

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How do I know? Because anyone who DID watch would not have made such a stupid remark!
 
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