BBC 9/11: The Conspiracy Files

gumboot said:
Not to mention he also created "The Lone Gunman" which is specifically cited in 9/11 CT circles. As his interviews show, he has clearly looked into the 9/11 CTs. And as JAStewart points out, he spent many years working closely with the CT mindset.

So yes, he has a LOT to offer.

-Gumboot
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Do you think he has as much to offer as, say, Craig Bartmer, a former NYPD officer who was at the scene?

Bartmer was at Avery's house when they interviewed Avery. Bartmer asked to be interviewed and they refused.
 
Aphelion said:
Do you think he has as much to offer as, say, Craig Bartmer, a former NYPD officer who was at the scene?

Bartmer was at Avery's house when they interviewed Avery. Bartmer asked to be interviewed and they refused.
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How do you know the BBC refused?
 
'they also promised to mention prisonplanet.com... but there was no mention of prisonplanet.com'
-Alex Jones

I was watching the show, and waiting for him to plug it lol.
 
Alrighty then.

I don't know his history, but it become obvious that once the idea that WTC's were CD's become obviously false, it doesn't matter is this guy thought it was a CD. Remember, he's no structural engineer, or controlled demolition expert.
 
JAStewart said:
Alrighty then.

I don't know his history, but it become obvious that once the idea that WTC's were CD's become obviously false, it doesn't matter is this guy thought it was a CD. Remember, he's no structural engineer, or controlled demolition expert.
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He ran from building 7 when it collapsed. He's now dying.

Why not interview any of the families that believe in a CT? The Jersey Girls for example.
 
Aphelion said:
Why not interview any of the families that believe in a CT? The Jersey Girls for example.
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Because its a natural psychological reaction to a murder. If your family member is murdered, you want revenge. And in this day and age, it is popular to not trust the government.

It is an argument from emotion rather than logic.
 
Reading the comments from folks like TruthSeeker1234, I find it pretty amusing that the field of battle has apparently now shifted to "The BBC Didn't Stomp Us As Hard As They Could Have." Even if true, that is not victory.

Remember, Troothers, the burden of proof is upon you. Always has, always will be. Nobody had to point out that you've got nothing, but we have anyway, just because your ignorance irritates us so much. In railing against the BBC, all you are doing is attempting pathetically to ignore the reality of your own defeat.
 
JAStewart said:
Because its a natural psychological reaction to a murder. If your family member is murdered, you want revenge. And in this day and age, it is popular to not trust the government.

It is an argument from emotion rather than logic.
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Yet they inteviewed a family member who believed the official story and made several arguments from emotion claiming that the CTs are hurting the families. Are you even aware of your own bias when watching it?
 
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R.Mackey said:
Reading the comments from folks like TruthSeeker1234, I find it pretty amusing that the field of battle has apparently now shifted to "The BBC Didn't Stomp Us As Hard As They Could Have." Even if true, that is not victory.

Remember, Troothers, the burden of proof is upon you. Always has, always will be. Nobody had to point out that you've got nothing, but we have anyway, just because your ignorance irritates us so much. In railing against the BBC, all you are doing is attempting pathetically to ignore the reality of your own defeat.
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Hey, they wanted mainstream media attention, they're getting it. You want real journalists to pay attention, prepare to get the scrutiny of facts that professional journalism brings.

Be careful what you wished for, Truthers. Because you don't seem to like it when you get it.
 
Alex Jones on his show today, hes believe in thermite, bombs on every floor and in the basement.

He also believes the flight 93 crater was fake, and an engine was found 4 miles away.

1 - Alex Jones did mention northwoods (sort of) at the beginning of the show.
2 - Northwoods has nothing to do with 9/11, so no wonder it didn't make it into the show.


Northwoods does not convince me of an inside job, if an 'operation 9/11' was leaked though...it would.
 
Aphelion said:
Yet they inteviewed a family member who believed the official story and made several arguments from emotion claiming that the CTs are hurting the families. Are you even aware of your on bias when watching it?
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She didn't make an arguement from emotion, she stated an emotional state. She was contradicting the 4,000 jew theory. After she said what she had to say, she also said it hurts her.

Bias? I'll have you know I was once a 911 conspiracy theorist myself.
 
JAStewart said:
She didn't make an arguement from emotion, she stated an emotional state. She was contradicting the 4,000 jew theory. After she said what she had to say, she also said it hurts her.

Bias? I'll have you know I was once a 911 conspiracy theorist myself.
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No i'm talking about the beginning and end of the show where they mentioned the families and the conspiracy theories hurting them. They failed to mention the family members who don't believe the government account.

If you were once a truther I would be very interested to hear how your mind was changed on every aspect of the CT you believed.
 
Aphelion said:
If you were once a truther I would be very interested to hear how your mind was changed on every aspect of the CT you believed.
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It was a gradual thing.

I was a denier from February 06 - November 06. Loose Change was the starting point for me. I foolishly believed it off the bat. I was quite a 'hardcore' denier actually. Cut to october, I was starting to find weaknesses in the conspiracy theory. Eventually after reading gravy's paper, 911myths.com, Screw Loose Change, Screw Loose Change Blog, 911 deniers speak etc, I started really questioning the conspiracy theory. Then on November 5th, I renounced my denierness.

Also, the fact that no structural engineers agree with the CD theory didn't help me.


http://electionnightspecial.blogspot.com/2006/12/911-conspiracies.html - my blog post on it.
 
In what sense were you a "denier"?

Do you have any real hard evidence for the official story?
 
JAStewart said:
Denying the official story.

NIST and FEMA's.

Please point out errors in their and the commission report.
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Do you not see a difference between denial and questioning anomolies?

I pointed out a problem earlier. The 911 commission report thinks the funding of the attacks is not that important. Are you not concerned by the ISI link claims?
 
Aphelion said:
Do you think he has as much to offer as, say, Craig Bartmer, a former NYPD officer who was at the scene?

Bartmer was at Avery's house when they interviewed Avery. Bartmer asked to be interviewed and they refused.
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Yes, I think he has more to offer than Craig Bartmer.

-Gumboot
 
Aphelion said:
Do you not see a difference between denial and questioning anomolies?

I pointed out a problem earlier. The 911 commission report thinks the funding of the attacks is not that important. Are you not concerned by the ISI link claims?
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Is going to ground zero and screaming "911 WAS AN INSIDE JOB" questioning anomalies?
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Nope, because others know the topic better than I.
 
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