Merged Barry Jenning's Tale

Arus808 said:
because jennings isn't out to make money off of his lies. And what would be the point of Jennings coming out? he said he heard explosions; he did not see bombs and we already know that he is messed up on his timeline of events. His "issue" is really a non-issue, since facts do not support his claims.
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Why do you think Jennings is lying? I believe the man to be sincere but just does not understand why there would be an explosion at 9:03 that morning inside WTC 7. What motive would Jennings have to lie?
 
MaGZ said:
Why do you think Jennings is lying?
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did i state that he was lying. you were comparing him to rodriguez who is a known liar.

I believe the man to be sincere but just does not understand why there would be an explosion at 9:03 that morning inside WTC 7. What motive would Jennings have to lie?
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what motive would he have to question the findings of an official report done by hundreds of individuals, based on his experience? It is apparent that he is not interested in learning what happened about the things he experienced, and rather keep on with the belief that what he "heard" was the truth, when he couldn't even get the timeline of the events he experienced correctly.

this is why eye witness (or ear witness) testimony is BACKED up by evidence. There is much evidence IN OTHER testimonies that places what he claims at certain times to be wrogn, and of course, the physical evidence proves that what he claims didn't happen.

Yes he is definitely making a mistake with his claims, but to keep on about the events, when he's been shown that he is wrong and told that, and the reports from several people have shown that, it borders on dishonesty.
 
12:10 p.m.-12:15 p.m. September 11, 2001: Firefighters Rescue Three People Trapped in WTC 7
Most of Building 7 of the World Trade Center was evacuated around the time the South Tower was hit (see (9:03 a.m.) September 11, 2001). However, firefighters find three individuals who have become trapped inside it. Among them are Barry Jennings, a City Housing Authority worker, and Mike Hess, New York’s chief lawyer who is also a longtime friend of Mayor Rudolph Giuliani. The two had gone up to the 23rd floor headquarters of the Mayor’s Office of Emergency Management some time before 10 a.m., but found it empty. (It was evacuated at 9:30 a.m.; see 9:30 a.m. September 11, 2001.) They headed downstairs but became trapped around the sixth floor by smoke and debris that filled the staircase as a result of the North Tower collapsing at 10:28 a.m. After breaking a window and calling for help, they were spotted by firefighters outside. When the firefighters go in, they also find a security officer for one of the businesses based in the building, who is trapped on the 7th floor by the smoke in the stairway. Why this guard did not evacuate earlier, along with the rest of WTC 7, is unknown. All three men are escorted out of the building.
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http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/entity.jsp?entity=barry_jennings_1
 
MaGZ said:
What is the latest information on Berry Jennings. Will Gravy debunk his comments as he did William Rodriguez?
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How is it that we even listen to your nonsense anymore?

You and A-Train are so far out there on the woo scale that it boggles my mind.
 
Okay, where can I find transcripts of statements made by Hess and Jennings?

It seems to me that his finding the OEM abandoned, apparently at the spur of the moment, would indicate that all of these events occurred after the police and fire department had notified Giulliani that collapse was expected. Thus, it was probably the collapse of the south tower that blew him back into the building the first time he tried to leave.

Mention is made in some posts I have read suggesting that he looked out a window and saw both buildings still standing, but this may be because he PERCIEVED both to still be there when he was, rather, Looking a the still-unsettled dust of the south tower.
 
Barry Jennings, like Norm Mineta, just has the time wrong. End of story.
 
I think it is hilarious that he makes out this story of a harrowing escape, when in fact, they shouldn’t have been in the building in the first place and had to be rescued out by the fire department and hour and a half AFTER WTC 1 collapsed.
 
leftysergeant said:
Okay, where can I find transcripts of statements made by Hess and Jennings?

It seems to me that his finding the OEM abandoned, apparently at the spur of the moment, would indicate that all of these events occurred after the police and fire department had notified Giulliani that collapse was expected. Thus, it was probably the collapse of the south tower that blew him back into the building the first time he tried to leave.

Mention is made in some posts I have read suggesting that he looked out a window and saw both buildings still standing, but this may be because he PERCIEVED both to still be there when he was, rather, Looking a the still-unsettled dust of the south tower.
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I think the reason Jennings found the 23 floor abandoned is because they knew flight 175 was bearing down on NYC. The emergency command post abandoned the area because they knew another plane was heading their way. Jennings made few calls and went down the stairwell next to the service elevator on the south side of WTC 7. Flight 175 hit WTC 2 and seconds later a missile fired by one of the fighters hit WTC 7.
 
MaGZ said:
I think the reason Jennings found the 23 floor abandoned is because they knew flight 175 was bearing down on NYC. The emergency command post abandoned the area because they knew another plane was heading their way. Jennings made few calls and went down the stairwell next to the service elevator on the south side of WTC 7. Flight 175 hit WTC 2 and seconds later a missile fired by one of the fighters hit WTC 7.
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Whiskey Tango Foxtrot? Jennings found the OEM empty; it was evacuated at 9:30, see Alferd_Packer's post. It was empty, according to MaGZ, because the eeeeeebil gubmint knew UA175 was coming.

Does someone want to remind MaGZ just what time UA175 hit the WTC? Hint: It was well before 9:30.
 
MaGZ said:
I thought Jennings would come forward with more details about his experience with the explosion in the stairwell of WTC 7 after the latest edition of LC came out.

Why wouldn’t Gravy try to debunk Jennings. He did so well with Rodriguez.
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ON what did you base your "thought"? Reading here? Dylan's already said that Jennings was getting so much negative attention that he asked that his interview be taken out of LCFC. So why would he have something more to say after the release? That's just silly.

As to whether one wants to believe Dylan's version (an AJs), that's your choice. Personally, I saw no indication that they had exclusive and extensive footage. It appears to me that the were hacking up the old material from Jennings and were gambling that they could get more.
 
MaGZ said:
I think the reason Jennings found the 23 floor abandoned is because they knew flight 175 was bearing down on NYC. The emergency command post abandoned the area because they knew another plane was heading their way. Jennings made few calls and went down the stairwell next to the service elevator on the south side of WTC 7. Flight 175 hit WTC 2 and seconds later a missile fired by one of the fighters hit WTC 7.
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Do not lie again. You have no idea about fighters or missiles as you have proved previously. There was no missile and no fighters.

Try researching missiles and fighters first, then get the timeline straight, then stop posting rubbish claims.
 
There were too many cameras pointed at the buildings for a missile to have gone un noticed. there are shots of something that looks like a missile, perhaps two, headed in the direction (roughly) of WTC 7, but it is verifiable by evidence found almost immediately afterwards that these were an engine and a wheel from the aircraft existing the impact arera in the same direction the plane was headed on impact. And there was no missile fired from the attacking aircraft. It would not have passed through the building.
 
Barry Jennings

Can someone point me to a site that debunks the Barry Jennings theory? Thanks.
 
Barry's another victim of time compression, much like Norm Mineta. If you take his timeline and add another hour to it, everything makes sense. Otherwise his times conflict with just about everybody else--Peruggia, for instance.
 
Jennings said he saw both towers still standing after the explosion he experienced. Can someone clarify this?
 
People are really bad at remembering the sequence of events they've experienced. That's a known fact. I find it more plausible that Barry thinks he remembers seeing the two towers after the explosion he heard, but instead saw it on his way up, than that everyone else had the story messed up.
 
tj15 said:
Jennings said he saw both towers still standing after the explosion he experienced. Can someone clarify this?
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Unless I have missed something, Dylan claims he saw this, but there has never been any statement, interview, audio etc associated with Barry Jennings that claims this. His timeline does not match up very well as we understand it and since he has apparently refused to appear in LC:FC it has become unexplainable.
 
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