Barry Jennings, dead at 53

[stateofgrace]

You are correct. There was no official explanation to the collapse of WTC 7 until the recent report. Before that, the government’s working theory which Jennings had difficulty in accepting was WTC 7 fires fed by the stored fuel tanks contributed to the collapse of WTC 7. This is why he made his I’m an “old boiler guy” comment; he was expressing skepticism to the government’s theory and considered CD as a possible explanation.

Indeed , but you didn't actually answer my questions.

You stated..

If you look at the transcript that MM linked, Jennings does not accept the official explanation for the collapse of WTC 7.

I then asked..

Did the interview take place before or after the release of the final report on WTC 7? Because as far as I am aware there was no "official "explanation for the collapse of WTC 7 prior to its release.

Are you saying there was ?

Did Jennings read this report and disagree with it's findings? Can you please point out exactly where you got this information from ?

Please answer the questions.

 

[Inertia]

All of you are EVIL celebrating the poor mans death like that. It is obvious the government goons killed him.

 

[Slayhamlet]

There were bodies! There was a freaking triage station in Seven!

Not when the tower fell.

 

[Cl1mh4224rd]

All of you are EVIL celebrating the poor mans death like that.

Who's celebrating? More the point, though, what is your definition of "celebrate"?

 

[Thunder]

All of you are EVIL celebrating the poor mans death like that. It is obvious the government goons killed him.

this is a joke right?

the only ones celebrating his death are the 9-11 Deniers, who see this as some moment that wil start their oh soo mentioned but never enacted "revolution".

 

[Travis]

All of you are EVIL celebrating the poor mans death like that.

You have a strange definition of "celebrating."

It is obvious the government goons killed him.

You have strange ideas of what is "obvious."

 

[beijingyank]

Got Rope?

If anyone needed proof that the truth movement is dead, this is it. Grasping at straws trying to make a dead man say things he didn't say.

The dictionary needs a new word, "pathetic" doesn't come close.

This is typical. The "bodies" issue is important because the Commission reported no deaths in Building 7. If there were bodies there, the Commission made a big mistake.

As far as the Commission is concerned, they must have thought all the eyewitnesses were "liars," because none of their testimony to explosions carried any ink.

It's hysterical, looking at NIST's reason why Building 7 came down and saying,

"An emergency responder caught in the building between the 6th and 8th floors says he heard two loud booms. Isn’t that evidence that there was an explosion?
The sound levels reported by all witnesses do not match the sound level of an explosion that would have been required to cause the collapse of the building. If the two loud booms were due to explosions that were responsible for the collapse of WTC 7, the emergency responder—located somewhere between the 6th and 8th floors in WTC 7—would not have been able to survive the near immediate collapse and provide this witness account."
nist.gov/public_affairs/factsheet/wtc_qa_082108.html


This, "If the two loud booms were due to explosions that were responsible for the collapse of WTC 7," is a perfect straw man. Seven didn't come down when Barry was in the building.

Barry was the city's Emergency Coordinator, a very credible witness and these "magic magnetism" NIST cover-up cointel artists can't dismiss or disregard his testimony with a "straw man argument," and expect to get away with it.

Let us not forget Silverstein's comment,

"I remember getting a call from the, er, fire department commander, telling me that they were not sure they were gonna be able to contain the fire, and I said, "We've had such terrible loss of life, maybe the smartest thing to do is pull it." And they made that decision to pull and we watched the building collapse."

The "magic magnetism" guys claim the demolition term Silverstein used for bringing down a building, "pull," referred to Silverstein's wanting to "pull the firemen out of Building 7." Sounds good, only Americans don't refer to people as an "it" and there were no firefighters in Building 7 at the time. I guess that second passport Silverstein carries around with him gives him a perfect excuse for not being able to speak English correctly.

It's ironic though, after "Lucky" Larry's comments, the collapse of Building 7 exactly matches the results of a conventional demolition.

The head of the 911 Commission report said,
"We asked for every single thing that they had. Then my vice chairman, Lee Hamilton, looked the director of the CIA in the face, and said, look, even if we haven't asked for something, if it's pertinent to our investigation, make it available to us. And our staff asked again and again of their staff and the tapes were not given to us. So, there was no question…I mean, no question that we again and again and again asked for everything, and we needed it, and we weren't given it. And so, the only conclusion we can draw is it was withheld from us. And that can only be seen to me as an attempt to impede our investigation."
motherjones.com/bush_war_timeline/archives/2004/07/july_22_2004.html

"Impede" is interesting. What better way is there to "impede" an investigation than to remove the evidence of a crime scene and ship it off to China and India?

Discounting innumerable eyewitness testimony of explosions taking place, and firefighters reporting secondary explosive devices found in the towers, and claiming magic "magnetism" brought Building 7 down is the fairy tale NIST wants you to believe.

The Hague is rising.

Everybody knows it.

Got rope?

Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities
-- Voltaire

 

[TJM]

Discounting innumerable eyewitness testimony of explosions taking place, and firefighters reporting secondary explosive devices found in the towers, and claiming magic "magnetism" brought Building 7 down is the fairy tale NIST wants you to believe.

Who are the eyewitnesses of explosions taking place and who are the firefighters that found explosive devices?

 

[Travis]

This is typical. The "bodies" issue is important because the Commission reported no deaths in Building 7. If there were bodies there, the Commission made a big mistake.

You are leaping to conclusions. The presence of bodies does not mean people died in the building. Those bodies may have been brought there from elsewhere. However, even if somebody died there, in the triage center from wounds sustained elsewhere, those bodies would likely have been moved before the collapse of the building many hours later.

So, no, the presence of bodies would not automatically mean that the Commission was mistaken.... not that a mistake on this one issue would have impacted the overall goal of the Commission any way.

As far as the Commission is concerned, they must have thought all the eyewitnesses were "liars," because none of their testimony to explosions carried any ink.

A loud bang will likely be described as an "explosion" and there plenty of loud bangs that day that had nothing to do with "explosives."

It's hysterical, looking at NIST's reason why Building 7 came down and saying,

"An emergency responder caught in the building between the 6th and 8th floors says he heard two loud booms. Isn’t that evidence that there was an explosion?
The sound levels reported by all witnesses do not match the sound level of an explosion that would have been required to cause the collapse of the building. If the two loud booms were due to explosions that were responsible for the collapse of WTC 7, the emergency responder—located somewhere between the 6th and 8th floors in WTC 7—would not have been able to survive the near immediate collapse and provide this witness account."
nist.gov/public_affairs/factsheet/wtc_qa_082108.html


This, "If the two loud booms were due to explosions that were responsible for the collapse of WTC 7," is a perfect straw man. Seven didn't come down when Barry was in the building.

High explosives detonating produce an incredibly sharp loud sound. It seems reasonable to concur that those loud booms did not originate from the detonation of HE.

Barry was the city's Emergency Coordinator, a very credible witness and these "magic magnetism" NIST cover-up cointel artists can't dismiss or disregard his testimony with a "straw man argument," and expect to get away with it.

Ummmm, what do you mean by "magic magnetism?"

Let us not forget Silverstein's comment,

"I remember getting a call from the, er, fire department commander, telling me that they were not sure they were gonna be able to contain the fire, and I said, "We've had such terrible loss of life, maybe the smartest thing to do is pull it." And they made that decision to pull and we watched the building collapse."

The "magic magnetism" guys claim the demolition term Silverstein used for bringing down a building, "pull," referred to Silverstein's wanting to "pull the firemen out of Building 7." Sounds good, only Americans don't refer to people as an "it" and there were no firefighters in Building 7 at the time. I guess that second passport Silverstein carries around with him gives him a perfect excuse for not being able to speak English correctly.

We many not call people an "it" but we do call a group effort, like firefighting, an "it" and that is what Silverstein was referring to. That there were no firefighters in the building at the time is something Silverstein wouldn't have known since he had no part in directing the firefighting efforts. The phone call he got was a courtesy call only, the decision to pull the firefighting effort had already been made by the actual firefighters.

It's ironic though, after "Lucky" Larry's comments, the collapse of Building 7 exactly matches the results of a conventional demolition.

Except in the numerous ways that it didn't.

 

[beachnut]

Let us not forget Silverstein's comment,

... only Americans don't refer to people as an "it" and there were no firefighters in Building 7 at the time. ...

Got rope?
...

There are no statute of limitations for war crimes and mass murder. Do you really want to live in Paraguay for the rest of your life for the 30 pieces of silver?

Do you think having NIST on your resume is going to bring good fortune in the job market?

Patriots are going to hunt the baby killing traitors down for the rest of their miserable lives.

I am sorry Barry died, I never rejoice in anyone's death.
It is sad, you seem to look forward to a truther world where you will rejoice with glee killing those who disagree with your magic terrorist apologist failed ideas.

Pull it; it means, the fire support. Such a sad showing for your third post. Welcome, next time mix some evidence in with your failed remarks to raise the bar above failure.

IT = fire support

 

[MaGZ]

Indeed , but you didn't actually answer my questions.

You stated..



I then asked..



Please answer the questions.

Did the interview take place before or after the release of the final report on WTC 7?
Before
Did Jennings read this report and disagree with it's findings?
No

 

[MaGZ]

I am sorry Barry died, I never rejoice in anyone's death.
It is sad, you seem to look forward to a truther world where you will rejoice with glee killing those who disagree with your magic terrorist apologist failed ideas.

Pull it; it means, the fire support. Such a sad showing for your third post. Welcome, next time mix some evidence in with your failed remarks to raise the bar above failure.

IT = fire support

Why would Silverstine be telling the Fire Department what to do? If you are correct, why wouldn’t Silvestine say “Pull them” instead of “ Pull it“.

 

[Travis]

Why would Silverstine be telling the Fire Department what to do? If you are correct, why wouldn’t Silvestine say “Pull them” instead of “ Pull it“.

Because the firefighting effort was an "it" not a "them."

 

[MaGZ]

Because the firefighting effort was an "it" not a "them."

I think what happened was the Fire Department decided to pull WTC 7 because it was determined it was leaning toward the southwest due to the damage of the southwest corner. They decided to let it burn since, in time, it will soon collapse. They pulled it because if it collapsed on its own into the WTC plaza area, it would interfere with the search and rescue efforts.

Silverstine was approached with this decision. The Fire Department got his approval. Sivesrsiten in the PBS interview only made it appear he had the final say. Actually the decision had been made by the Fire Department.

 

[beijingyank]

Are The Leni Riefenstahl NIST nitwits feeling "lucky?"

First rule of disinformation, deny, deny, and deny it again. Rotflmao!

"Except it didn't fall like a demolition?" Deny, deny, deny.

Danny Jowenko a demotion expert says otherwise. wwwDOTyoutube.com/watch?v=877gr6xtQIc
I'll go with the expert if you don't mind.

Second rule of disinformation, Take offense or the "How dare you!" offense.

911 was an inside job?

"How dare you! How dare you! 911 Was not an inside job." Said "Slick Willy" Clinton wwwDOThotair.com/archives/2007/10/25/clinton-to-truthers-how-dare-you/

This clown also said "I did not have sex with that woman!" rotflmao

Let me get this straight, you guys are telling me "it" is referring to the firefighting effort that wasn't there in the first place? Do me the "courtesy" and tell me your English was home schooled or you have two passports and English isn't your mother's tongue or try again. You guys are ridiculous.

"...the best thing to do is pull it. And we saw the building come down." Said "Lucky" streak Larry!
He didn't' say "and we saw it (firefighters) run away like cockroaches!"

How convenient the Federal judge ruling on "Lucky's" insurance claim later became the Attorney General. Who would have thunk it! (excuse the Brooklynese)

Is this the same man that made special efforts along with Rabbi Chertoff to see the Urban Moving illegal's deported back to their "foreign country?" They only were "explosive experts" and failed every polygraph the FBI gave them. Sure was a good thing these boys confessed over national television, in that "foreign country," they were "only there to document the event?"

Sure was magical they knew the event was coming in the first place.

Holy 911 Odigo instant messages Batman, it's surely magical and "lucky" that hedge fund from that "foreign" country bought all those United Airline puts 9/10!

Recent polls show 86% of Russians believes 911 was an inside job.

The nations will line up behind Russia when prosecution at The Hague begins for war crimes and crimes against humanity.

Are you "magic fire, magic magnetism Leni Riefenstahl NIST nitwits feeling "lucky?"

If not, rub the thirty pieces of silver together, it should help.

 

[SDC]

Well, we've got another anti-semite. All we need now is to find out whether he/ she has professional or amateur status. Two passports, check... Rabbi Chertoff, check... the evil Silverstein, check... Though it is interesting that the court at the Hague and Russian opinion are mentioned. Normally an American anti-semite would have no interest in either. Also Riefenstahl is a curious reference. Beijingyank, would you please provide your sources for your statements?

Oh, and Magz, would you pick up this garbage? Take it to the landfill, per usual. Thanks a bunch.

 

[beijingyank]

Edited by chillzero: 

Edited for civility

 

[CHF]

They pulled it because if it collapsed on its own into the WTC plaza area, it would interfere with the search and rescue efforts.

So why are they covering up a demolition done for safety reasons?

 

[CHF]

Danny Jowenko a demotion expert says otherwise. wwwDOTyoutube.com/watch?v=877gr6xtQIc
I'll go with the expert if you don't mind.

So the WTC towers were NOT demolitions then? Or is Jowenko not an expert when it comes to those collapses?

But feel free to go with Jowenko and ignore the rest of the CD industry.

Let me get this straight, you guys are telling me "it" is referring to the firefighting effort that wasn't there in the first place?

Why do twoofers have such a hard time understanding that "it" can refer to a group of people?

Here, I'll help you out: the Truth Movement is pathetic. IT allows morons to pretend they're smart.

 

[SDC]

Look, beijingyank, it's been a fun diversion, but how about getting back on the topic of Jennings?