Baroness Warsi and "militant secularisation"

[geni]

Or people go to council meetings to do council business. Not to talk to their invisible friends.

Who do you think defines what council business is?

 

[3point14]

Who do you think defines what council business is?

so if they spent their time doing naked yoga, you wouldn't think that was grounds for objection? What about if they sat around doing nothing? Or playing Subbuteo?

In answer to your questino, they decide. As you well know. I'm not sure why the question is relevant as they are under an obligation to use the time productively.

 

[geni]

You have no basis on which to make that judgement of me. I'm happy enough with the council in my area, I've never seen them hit the Eye in all the years I've subscribed to it. If I thought you really cared I could post the figures.

Well I don't think this is your council so how much you like your local one doesn't mean much one way or the other.

Perhaps you would switch to another party on something like prayers, but most of us look at the main issues.

If it isn't an issue of that great an import why bother trying to stop it.

You have omitted the simple solution, you just have to change the rules on prayers, not the council, it's faster.

Well you will be happy to hear that Eric Pickles plans to do exactly that.

My elected representatives can chant Hare Krishna or light black candles for satan all they like, I just don't want it done in time I'm paying for.

Then vote for someone else if they do. In any case they are not being paid by the hour.

You know the attempt to use the "I'm paying for this" argument when objecting to the actions of elected representatives kinda misses the point of democracy. They are elected representatives and should be free to do that representation in whatever way they see fit. If that involves quoting Nietzsche then so be it.

Who said I think that? Try reading what is written here. Time and money are wasted on a lot of things. That isn't a justification that it should also be wasted on prayers.

It does however suggest that the complaints based on time and money are disingenuous to the point of intellectual bankruptcy.

 

[brodski]

Which makes her British, not Pakistani.

Ethinic identity is more complex than that, those are not exclusive sets.

 

[Multivac]

Ethinic identity is more complex than that, those are not exclusive sets.

You are probably correct, but maybe it should be that simple. Britain has beeen invaded many times by many different ethnicities, all of which will have bred with the locals. The roman army would have been composed of soldiers from Italy, France, Germany, Spain, Greece and many other countries.

Add the Vikings to the mix and the average British DNA will have elements from many of theses ethnicities but nobody here describes themseleves as Italian-French-Spanish-German-Greek-Scandinavian-British. To me, people who are born in Britain, or have accepted British citizenship, are British.

I have honestly neevr understood why so many Americans, for example, describe themseleves as Irish-American, Italian-American, African-American etc., especially if they, their parents or grandparents were born in America.

 

[Last of the Fraggles]

To me, people who are born in Britain, or have accepted British citizenship, are British.

Well that's fine but many people who are born in Britain or who have accepted British citzenship wouldn't self-identify as simply British or want to be regarded as simply British.

 

[lionking]

I have honestly neevr understood why so many Americans, for example, describe themseleves as Irish-American, Italian-American, African-American etc., especially if they, their parents or grandparents were born in America.

OT, but it's creeping in here too. My daughter was recently asked by someone what nationality she was and she answered, slightly puzzled "Australian". "But what type?" was the follow up question. "Australian Australian" was apparently not an acceptable response......