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[frisian]

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Show me where I moved those goalposts.
ah, so disruptive am I?



A lackluster human being would need to ask such a thing, especially, it seems, when there is resistence to the concept. And its orginal concept has little to do with the reasoning whys of now.

Are you sure you don't mean "posteriori"?

As soon as you show where I have used the word disruptive.

More assumptions, splendid. I would have assumed that you merely created logical constructs.

I am fairly certain I meant what I said.

Is there something you want to say explicitly?

 

[frisian]

Since I envisioned the goalposts to begin with, I have not seen how you could decipher where they are, and where one is in relation to them.

 

[Suezoled]

Since I envisioned the goalposts to begin with, I have not seen how you could decipher where they are, and where one is in relation to them.

but you had said earlier:

I imagine that you missed where you moved the goalposts?

to me

so who is moving them?
when a person makes a statement, they have set a goal post. When a person ignores the statement they made and goes on to say something else, that is moving goal posts.

As soon as you show where I have used the word disruptive.

Straw man.

I wanted to be enlightened, is why I asked. Tis done, then you came into the discussion.

and "disruptive" is simile to such a phrase.

to my point:
you said:

When did you arrive at the conclusion that your mannerisms and protocol were courteous?

I ask:

Originally posted by sparklecat

Point out where I've been impolite?

So, point out where Sparkle has been impolite.

 

[Wrath of the Swarm]

Non responsive. Your post tells us nothing and fails to even address the main point of the argument. You are merely repeating your past argument. You are now arguing ad infinitum. I wonder if you ever met a fallacy that you did not like.

Is this some kind or joke, or are you really this stupid?

This has all already been explained to you. Your questions are based on a fundamental lack of understanding on your part of what our conception of physical law admits as possible. None of the miracles described in the New Testament are beyond known physics, although they're beyond known engineering principles and certainly beyond known human potential. Not believing in resurrection from the dead because it "violates physics" is invalid; not believing in resurrection from the dead because it would require resources beyond anything we know exists is reasonable.

Criminy, it's like talking to Ian. Could RandFan be Ian's evil twin?

 

[Suezoled]

Cell Lysis.

 

[frisian]

but you had said earlier:
to me

so who is moving them?
when a person makes a statement, they have set a goal post. When a person ignores the statement they made and goes on to say something else, that is moving goal posts.



Straw man.



and "disruptive" is simile to such a phrase.

to my point:
you said:

I ask:

So, point out where Sparkle has been impolite.

"When did you arrive at the conclusion that your mannerisms and protocol were courteous?"

This is known as a question, it implies I don't know the answer. I don't assert anything.

To which she responded...

"Point out where I've been impolite?"

Which still didn't answer the question.

It puts the onus on me to assert something, which I didn't care to do...thus I asked a question to begin with.

You still don't get it?

In essence it is like me asking "Are you a woman" and you replying "Point out how I am a man"....huh?

 

[Suezoled]

While I find it unfair, it is merely their opinion. What a splendid conclusion you have jumped to, that their faith is really lacking and they are frightened. Is this the eye for eye season?

When did you arrive at the conclusion that your mannerisms and protocol were courteous? How did that fit into a paradigm outside of you? Or was that further subjectivity?

It seems Frisian, you are jumping to just as many assumptions. Either you find Sparkle has not been courteous, and can point it out, or you do not find Sparkle has been uncourteous, or you find her uncourteous but cannot point it out. Your wording implies such; you made the assertion whether you meant to or not.

 

[frisian]

It seems Frisian, you are jumping to just as many assumptions. Either you find Sparkle has not been courteous, and can point it out, or you do not find Sparkle has been uncourteous, or you find her uncourteous but cannot point it out. Your wording implies such; you made the assertion whether you meant to or not.

Indeed I do jump to assumptions at times, thus I asked a question in order to clarify.

I cannot recall her being uncourteous myself.

I thought I would just ask, rather than go through everything she said.

 

[Suezoled]

Indeed I do jump to assumptions at times, thus I asked a question in order to clarify.

I cannot recall her being uncourteous myself.

I thought I would just ask, rather than go through everything she said.

I thank you for the reply.

 

[frisian]

I thank you for the reply.

I think this conclusion could have been reached much sooner.

I thank you.

 

[frisian]

By the way, what is your avatar from? Reminds me of many a late night adventure with me and my band mates.

 

[sparklecat]

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I stated I wouldn't answer it, then proceeded to such in the same post.

You are asking if I feel pressured to conform?

That is humorous, if anything I usually FEEL precisely the opposite, generally.

Indeed, do you know why?

Er... I don't believe you did, no.

Exactly. You just proved my point- no one here is forced to fit in. If anything, you seem to be moving in the direction of conforming over at RR.

Why the Christians haven't accepted me, or why the atheists have? I could hazard a guess, but the last time I did, you jumped on me about courtesy.

 

[RandFan]

This has all already been explained to you. Your questions are based on a fundamental lack of understanding on your part of what our conception of physical law admits as possible.

????

All of my questions? No they are not. You are being obtuse and it is demonstrable. Don't call me stupid when you refuse to address my questions.

None of the miracles described in the New Testament are beyond known physics, although they're beyond known engineering principles and certainly beyond known human potential.

Argument ad infinitum and it does NOT answer my questions. If you would try and answer my question one at a time you would see. You won't even bother answering them.

Not believing in resurrection from the dead because it "violates physics" is invalid; not believing in resurrection from the dead because it would require resources beyond anything we know exists is reasonable.

Then when Randi said "just as a "flying pig" would exceed natural laws, and would violate the laws of physics" his statement was invalid, right?

[uote]Criminy, it's like talking to Ian. Could RandFan be Ian's evil twin? [/QUOTE] Don't even think of accusing me of this when it is obvious that you are not reading my posts and you refuse to answer my questions.

 

[frisian]

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Er... I don't believe you did, no.

Exactly. You just proved my point- no one here is forced to fit in. If anything, you seem to be moving in the direction of conforming over at RR.

Why the Christians haven't accepted me, or why the atheists have? I could hazard a guess, but the last time I did, you jumped on me about courtesy.

I proved your point?

I didn't jump on you, I was merely curious and it blew out of proportion.

 

[frisian]

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If anything, you seem to be moving in the direction of conforming over at RR.

Oops I missed this part.

huh?



Conforming to what?

 

[sparklecat]

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I proved your point?

I didn't jump on you, I was merely curious and it blew out of proportion.

You don't seem to realize the implications your words carry at times...


Conforming to the mindset, honestly. Just from what I've seen, our views have been shifting further and further apart due to movement on both our parts.

 

[frisian]

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You don't seem to realize the implications your words carry at times...


Conforming to the mindset, honestly. Just from what I've seen, our views have been shifting further and further apart due to movement on both our parts.

That suggestion seems familiar, perhaps you are correct.



Hmmm, could be that our views have shifted further apart.

So where do I stand exactly?

 

[Wrath of the Swarm]

Don't call me stupid when you refuse to address my questions.

Your questions are what earn you the adjective 'stupid'.

Argument ad infinitum and it does NOT answer my questions. If you would try and answer my question one at a time you would see. You won't even bother answering them.

They've already been answered. You're simply not capable of analyzing the previous discussion and extrapolating from the basic premises contained therein.

Don't even think of accusing me of this when it is obvious that you are not reading my posts and you refuse to answer my questions.

Yes, quite like Ian. Hey, tell us about how no one will answer your questions and you've defeated everyone who challenged your position.

 

[RandFan]

More non-answer answers and ad hominem, huh swarm?

This is a hijaak of the thread. I think we should take our argument outside so to speak.

Questions Wrath of Swarm refuses to answer.

 

[sparklecat]

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That suggestion seems familiar, perhaps you are correct.



Hmmm, could be that our views have shifted further apart.

So where do I stand exactly?

You tell me. Further away from the middle ground we were both taking a few months back. You seem to have rejected skepticism and put your beliefs in the realm of non-testability.