Banachek on John Edward, Project Alpha

[wert]

OR you are.

I wouldn't be quick to make that assumption either.

But hey, whatever gets you through the night.

 

[T'ai Chi]

I wouldn't be quick to make that assumption either.

But hey, whatever gets you through the night.

Ok Sparky. You have to explain how he got 'bean' without the girl or the host being in on it.

We're waiting.

 

[wert]

In accordance with Randi's wishes (which I agree with), I won't expose a working performers repertoire here. Nor will I expose these secrets privately to those I feel have not done the proper work to obtain them and merely want secrets handed to them on a silver platter. The clues are right there in the video if you look closely enough. If you have a serious interest in this type of work, I suggest you get cracking and do a little research of your own.

*Remembering why I used to have you on my "ignore list" back before you changed your name from "whodini"*

 

[T'ai Chi]

The clues are right there in the video if you look closely enough.

In other words, you either don't know, or think you know but are wrong.

Please, give a plausabile way of how he got 'bean' if the girl and/or the host weren't in on it? If you know anything, you should be able to do this without giving away the trick.

I am skeptical of your claim.

 

[wert]

In other words, you either don't know, or think you know but are wrong.

Please, give a plausabile way of how he got 'bean' if the girl and/or the host weren't in on it? If you know anything, you should be able to do this without giving away the trick.

Nope, not at all. The techniques in use here are so fundamental, that tipping them (in even the vaguest of terms) would certainly give away the effect. Please do not put the onus on me to expose a working performers repertoire (which the rules here prohibit) solely because you seem unable/unwilling to research said matter on your own.

Since you obviously made little effort to actually read/understand my previous post.

In accordance with Randi's wishes (which I agree with), I won't expose a working performers repertoire here. Nor will I expose these secrets privately to those I feel have not done the proper work to obtain them and merely want secrets handed to them on a silver platter.

I recognized a well known technique (or two) in use in that particular effect, but I won't be peer pressured into revealing a working performers secrets in defiance of the forums rules (and my own ethical beliefs). I seem to recall a post from you (in another thread) saying that you found it fun to expose secrets to your friends. As such, I'm not overly concerned with whether or not you believe me. If you think I'm going to expose Banachek's (Steve Shaw's) material merely to whet your curiosity (or perhaps give you fodder to impress your friends), you are mistaken.

If that is beyond your ability to understand/respect, and you really want to know how such effects are done, I suggest actually conducting some research of your own.

If you really believe that effects of that type require a stooge, then it's fairly evident that you haven't done your homework. And I have no intention of doing it for you.

Plonk.

Wert's ignore list welcomes Whodini (I mean Ta'i Chi) back into its warm embrace.

 

[NoZed Avenger]

In other words, you either don't know, or think you know but are wrong.

Banachek is a working mentalist, and a good one. From seeing him at a couple of TAOMs, he also appears to be a nice guy. To suggest that he couldn't pull that effect off without a stooge is borderline insulting, especially after knowing how badly he fooled mutliple scientists in Project Alpha -- and that was when he was 18, for Ed's sake. He's now a full-time pro, and has been for years.

The above taunt by you seems to be merely a juvenile attempt to have someone disclose part of Banachek's act for no good reason. Maybe that would work on someone in 7th grade, but Wert already made clear that he takes Randi's request on this seriously.

N/A

 

[billydkid]

The proper work????

In accordance with Randi's wishes (which I agree with), I won't expose a working performers repertoire here. Nor will I expose these secrets privately to those I feel have not done the proper work to obtain them and merely want secrets handed to them on a silver platter. The clues are right there in the video if you look closely enough. If you have a serious interest in this type of work, I suggest you get cracking and do a little research of your own.

*Remembering why I used to have you on my "ignore list" back before you changed your name from "whodini"*

Look, nobody figures this stuff out for themselves. Everyone who knows these tricks were mentored by somebody. Magicians do not figure out how to do the tricks on their own.

 

[NoZed Avenger]

Re: The proper work????

Look, nobody figures this stuff out for themselves. Everyone who knows these tricks were mentored by somebody. Magicians do not figure out how to do the tricks on their own.

T'ai Chi is not asking for mentoring.

 

[Aoidoi]

Re: The proper work????

Look, nobody figures this stuff out for themselves. Everyone who knows these tricks were mentored by somebody. Magicians do not figure out how to do the tricks on their own.

Er... if nobody figures them out on their own... where do they come from? (yes, I realize that most tricks are taught, just found the comment amusing)

 

[T'ai Chi]

I recognized a well known technique (or two) in use in that particular effect, but I won't be peer pressured into revealing a working performers secrets in defiance of the forums rules (and my own ethical beliefs).

If you understood what I wrote, I'm not asking you to expose anyone. In fact, I'm not asking for exact methods at all. I said give a plausible way. Thus, I left it up to you to decide if, how, and how much.

I am entitled to my opinions on how he accomplished it, just as you are with your opinions. I could be wrong, sure. At least I admit I could be wrong, unlike you in this matter.

If you really believe that effects of that type require a stooge, then it's fairly evident that you haven't done your homework. And I have no intention of doing it for you.

I don't want D's on my homework, so its good that you aren't doing it.

I have a pretty good idea of when some trick requires a stooge and when one doesn't. I could be wrong, sure, I'll admit that.

Wert's ignore list welcomes Whodini (I mean Ta'i Chi) back into its warm embrace.

That's unfortunate you run from a discussion. The cool sand probably feels good against your head.

Although, we all know you're reading this right now. Feel free to come back.

 

[wert]

Ah, the sweet sounds of silence from Whodini (Ta'i Chi).

Before I take my leave of this thread, I wanted to provide another excellent performance video of Banachek. For a fun clip (with some additional routines) go to the following link and click the "video" button.

http://www.banachek.org/banachekmain..htm

Interestingly enough, the routine we've been discussing is performed here in a much clearer manner. For those interested, it's about 5 minutes into the video clip.

The clues are there for those willing to see beyond their cherished misconceptions. (In this case, the second clip more clearly clues in the very standard methodology being used here.)

And with that, I bid this thread a cheerful "Adieu".