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Badnarik: I will debate or be arrested

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This could get interesting...

Michael Badnarik, the Libertarian Party’s 2004 presidential nominee, will debate John Kerry and George W. Bush in St. Louis on Friday. Or he’ll go to jail instead.

“A majority of Americans say that I should be included in the events sponsored by the Commission on Presidential Debates,” says Badnarik, 50, of Austin, Texas. “And the CPD, as a non-profit, has received special treatment from government on the requirement that they be non-partisan in their activities. Bi-partisan is not non-partisan.

“Unless I am allowed to participate, the debates become a massive campaign contribution to two of the candidates, illegal under the very campaign finance laws those two candidates have passed and signed as Senator and President.”

At 8 p.m. on Friday evening, Badnarik, along with the demonstrators expected to assemble in protest against his exclusion, will proceed to the police line erected to keep himself and the other legitimate candidates out during broadcast of the “bi-partisan campaign commercial.”

And then he will cross it.
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The protest will proceed from Northmoor Park on Big Bend Ave., just south of Washington University to the corner of Big Bend and Forsyth, where the police line is expected to be arrayed. Badnarik’s crossing onto the Washington University campus will take place at that point, some time between 8 and 8:15 p.m. Badnarik and Green Party presidential candidate David Cobb plan to cross the police line together.
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This is the same tactic Badnarik supporters used to protest the Republican National Commercial—er, I mean, Convention, without having to go to the "free speech zone." They said, "We don't need no stinking permit" and went and protested in Central Park. Not a single one of them was arrested. They didn't even get a, "Hey, you can't do that!"

When our founders signed the Declaration of Independence, they mutually pledged to each other their lives, their fortunes, and their sacred honor. It's great to see a Presidential candidate willing to do the same thing.
 
"A majority of americans say I should be included"!??!? I bet less than 5% ofthe country even knows who this guy is.


I do think the debates are bogus scripted events.
 
REason number 23 why I hated seeing him win.

Look, while I agree with him 'in spirit' on the issue, he is gonna make us look like TOTAL whackos if he goes through with this.

Again Shane, thanks for making libs look like a buncha crazies by supporting him in the primary. I just can't 'thank' you enough.

:(
 
shanek said:
This could get interesting...





This is the same tactic Badnarik supporters used to protest the Republican National Commercial—er, I mean, Convention, without having to go to the "free speech zone." They said, "We don't need no stinking permit" and went and protested in Central Park. Not a single one of them was arrested. They didn't even get a, "Hey, you can't do that!"

When our founders signed the Declaration of Independence, they mutually pledged to each other their lives, their fortunes, and their sacred honor. It's great to see a Presidential candidate willing to do the same thing.
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I think it is a good idea for him to do this.

Do you think he'll go through with it?

Of course, it won't make the news if he's not actually arrested.

It would be better if they beat him up a little. Not terribly bad -- no major bones broken -- but bad enough to put him in the hospital for a week or two. That would be effective, donchathink?
 
I heard Badnarik wasn't going to risk getting elected because he thinks the shadow goverment would pay the guys who really pulled off the OKC bombing to go undercover and shank him in jail?
 
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Tmy said:
"A majority of americans say I should be included"!??!? I bet less than 5% ofthe country even knows who this guy is.
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In a Rasmussen poll, 68% said Badnarik should be allowed in the debates.
 
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Rob Lister said:
I think it is a good idea for him to do this.

Do you think he'll go through with it?
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Knowing him, I'm almost sure of it.

It would be better if they beat him up a little. Not terribly bad -- no major bones broken -- but bad enough to put him in the hospital for a week or two. That would be effective, donchathink?
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Not for too long—we want him available for the next debate if we win the court case!
 
Interesting twist to the story: the Arizona LP was supposed to serve their Order to Show Cause to the CPD by today or the order would be vacated. Everyone who tried to get the order to the CPD was stopped by security, even in their offices. Badnarik had a copy of the order in his pocket when he was arrested.

Can someone avoid a legitimate order this way? Is it enough that the Arizona LP made every reasonable attempt to serve the order, or are they SOL and the order vacated because the CPD had lots of muscle on their side?
 
this is a sign of a governmental system that is rotten to the core, at the the federal, state, and local level.
 
EdipisReks said:
this is a sign of a governmental system that is rotten to the core, at the the federal, state, and local level.
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And that's where you have to start to make improvements, at the local level and then the state and then the federal. I agree with Libertarian philosophy on many points, but when they run on a platform of closing the borders and throwing the UN out of the US and other major changes, it's time to get out the tin-foil party hats because it ain't gonna happen for a long time.
 
I did watch the "debate" between Badnarik and Cobb on PBS. The first time I ever saw him. I like him.

Unfortunately the CPD is a pretty exclusive club. I have yet to see women, jews, or people of color debate.

Charlie (although they can moderate, and maybe cleanup the hall afterwards) Monoxide


editted to add: I forgot about Lieberman in 2000 ....
 
EdipisReks said:
this is a sign of a governmental system that is rotten to the core, at the the federal, state, and local level.
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It gets better. Go back to the page and read about the college students who were nearly shot by snipers because they were trying to get back to their dorm and inadvertently went into the not-a-free-speech zone.
 
Charlie Monoxide said:
I did watch the "debate" between Badnarik and Cobb on PBS. The first time I ever saw him. I like him.

Unfortunately the CPD is a pretty exclusive club. I have yet to see women, jews, or people of color debate.

Charlie (although they can moderate, and maybe cleanup the hall afterwards) Monoxide


editted to add: I forgot about Lieberman in 2000 ....
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They don't care if you're a jew, as long as you're THEIR jew.
 
shanek said:
Interesting twist to the story: the Arizona LP was supposed to serve their Order to Show Cause to the CPD by today or the order would be vacated. Everyone who tried to get the order to the CPD was stopped by security, even in their offices. Badnarik had a copy of the order in his pocket when he was arrested.

Can someone avoid a legitimate order this way? Is it enough that the Arizona LP made every reasonable attempt to serve the order, or are they SOL and the order vacated because the CPD had lots of muscle on their side?
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Apparently, when they block you from issuing such an order, it is then proper to fax it in, although George Getz says he was able to go in and lay the order on a desk, although the guy there wouldn't take it.

What if they ignore the court order, as they seem all to willing and eager to do?
 
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