AWK-ward!: McCain & Palin joint interview with Couric

mortimer said:
So, you've accused him of being angry and bitter because of his laugh, and that can't be challenged because you also accuse him of an unsubstantiated reputation of a problematic temper amongst peers? Gotcha. That's called bias.
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Noting that McCain has a reputation for a bad temper is not bias. It is fact. If you do not believe it, I suggest doing a google search on "McCain temper". You will come up with 1,120,000 hits. here are a few from the first page:

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Here's one from 1999: Link

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One typical quote:
John McCain's temper is well documented. He's called opponents and colleagues "****heads," "**holes" and in at least one case "a ****ing jerk."
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Now if you wish to argue that McCain's reputation for a bad temper is undeserved, please feel free to supply evidence. If you think that other candidates have equally bad tempers, supply evidence. If you think it is irrelevant, that is your right. But to call another poster biased for noting a well-documented fact--McCain's reputation of a bad temper--demonstrates a lack of critical thinking.
 
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joobz said:
I've wondered that myself.
I too saw him as a bit aggresive as well. But It may simply be his mannerisms that are easily misinterpreted. He figets a bit in his seat, and it could simply be nervous energy, a busy day, too much coffee.... But the figeting comes off as aggression to those who are inclined to see it as aggresive.
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Enlarged prostate? ;)
 
NotJesus said:
Brainster and BPSCG seem to be "on hiatus" since the McCain campaign started nosediving.
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And unfortunately, BAC only flies in once a day to start a new Stuck on Stupidtm thread or one of his patented War and Peace cut-and-paste jobs.
 
Upchurch said:
I'm glad McCain was there to help her, but who was there to help McCain?

"You've got me? Who's got you?" ---Lois Lane
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Whiplash said:
McCain is Superman? Hell ya, good to see you coming around Upchurch.
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And the correct response is....
Ausmerican said:
Might of been, once. Somtime during the last eight years they swapped him out for Bizarro though.
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However, we would have also accepted:
Aquaman, as he, Lois, and the helicopter pilots then plummet to their deaths.
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mortimer said:
I did watch the vid. I don't see him making any "angry" gestures or postures. Perhaps this is a case of confirmation bias?

And I have heard of McCain's temper. I have not heard any of his colleagues call it problematic. I could be wrong; I haven't looked into it much as his anger problem seems to be under control since he's been campaigning. Considering he's blanketed by reporters every waking morning, if he would have blown up, I'm sure we would have heard about it.
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I mean, we could keep going in circles here about the man's temper issues. LOL. There's just no way for you to prove the man hasn't blown up any more than I can prove beyond the shadow of a doubt, that McCain was angry in the vid. But I never had to prove anything beyond a shadow of a doubt if you go back and read my original comment:

I used the qualifier "seems" in reference to my observation about McCain's behavior in the vid. I've basically said that, given McCain's known history as a rage-o-holic, there's a reasonable chance ("it seems") it was anger that was observed in the interview, ( ...especially given that even his words were snide and defensive).

You might consider that you are the one with confirmation bias, as it regards what you see as lack of anger. But I'm so bored with this right now that I don't care either way (if I ever did really care).

There has to be something more clever to argue about LOL.
 
gdnp said:
Noting that McCain has a reputation for a bad temper is not bias. It is fact. If you do not believe it, I suggest doing a google search on "McCain temper". You will come up with 1,120,000 hits. here are a few from the first page:

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Here's one from 1999: Link

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One typical quote:


Now if you wish to argue that McCain's reputation for a bad temper is undeserved, please feel free to supply evidence. If you think that other candidates have equally bad tempers, supply evidence. If you think it is irrelevant, that is your right. But to call another poster biased for noting a well-documented fact--McCain's reputation of a bad temper--demonstrates a lack of critical thinking.
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GREAT post! Good stuff for sure.
 
gdnp said:
Noting that McCain has a reputation for a bad temper is not bias. It is fact. If you do not believe it, I suggest doing a google search on "McCain temper". You will come up with 1,120,000 hits. here are a few from the first page:

Link

Link

Here's one from 1999: Link

Link

One typical quote:


Now if you wish to argue that McCain's reputation for a bad temper is undeserved, please feel free to supply evidence. If you think that other candidates have equally bad tempers, supply evidence. If you think it is irrelevant, that is your right. But to call another poster biased for noting a well-documented fact--McCain's reputation of a bad temper--demonstrates a lack of critical thinking.
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I concur. Nominated.
 
gdnp said:
Noting that McCain has a reputation for a bad temper is not bias. It is fact. If you do not believe it, I suggest doing a google search on "McCain temper". You will come up with 1,120,000 hits.
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That made me curious, so...
http://www.google.com/search?q=obama+temper
1,620,000 for obama temper

http://www.google.com/search?q=biden+temper
159,000 for biden temper

http://www.google.com/search?q=mccain+temper
1,370,000 for mccain temper

http://www.google.com/search?q=palin+temper
910,000 for palin temper

And just for a "control" of sorts... :D
http://www.google.com/search?q="john+denver"+temper
11,200 for "john denver" temper
 
Pantaz said:
That made me curious, so...
http://www.google.com/search?q=obama+temper
1,620,000 for obama temper

http://www.google.com/search?q=biden+temper
159,000 for biden temper

http://www.google.com/search?q=mccain+temper
1,370,000 for mccain temper

http://www.google.com/search?q=palin+temper
910,000 for palin temper

And just for a "control" of sorts... :D
http://www.google.com/search?q="john+denver"+temper
11,200 for "john denver" temper
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Interesting. I did not know that Obama was rumored to have a temper, as he is usually criticized for being too aloof. I searched through the first few pages, found a nice photoshopped video, a couple of references to rumors, and one anecdote about a heated discussion with Lieberman. Several others discussed Obama's even temper, or contrasted him to McCain. So I guess the simple metric of google hits is not particularly valid. I stand by my point, however, that McCain has the reputation of a violent temper.

ETA: some of this may just come down to differences in the number of web pages. Obama has 209 million hits, McCain only 131 million.
 
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Regnad Kcin said:
Must. Resist. Obvious.
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Off topic, kind of, but my wife was walking by while I was watching Barney Frank's press conference. She said, "Who is that guy? He looks like an unmade bed!". For some reason, that struck me as very funny.
 
That is funny. Also, he reminds me of a hobo disguised in business attire. It's wild.
 
gdnp said:
Interesting. I did not know that Obama was rumored to have a temper, as he is usually criticized for being too aloof. I searched through the first few pages, found a nice photoshopped video, a couple of references to rumors, and one anecdote about a heated discussion with Lieberman. Several others discussed Obama's even temper, or contrasted him to McCain. So I guess the simple metric of google hits is not particularly valid. I stand by my point, however, that McCain has the reputation of a violent temper.

ETA: some of this may just come down to differences in the number of web pages. Obama has 209 million hits, McCain only 131 million.
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Violent is probably a poor descriptor, but yeah I agree he has a rep for a having a temper. Not necessarily a bad thing IMO either.
 
When I saw this thread yesterday, I was wondering about the "AWK-ward" in the title. However, after seeing clips of this interview last night, I understand it.

It was like seeing a high school kid who had been taken to task by the principal showing up the next day with her dad to put that principal in his place.

McCain even played the role of the protective father very well, accusing Couric of playing "gotcha" politics. I could almost see the headline, "Dad to Media: Stop Picking on My Daughter."

Awkward is not a bad description, although creepy also comes to mind.
 
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