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Legend said:
Michael Keenan is breaking down in parliament. :eye-poppi He stood there in silence on several occasions in an effort to control himself while talking about the Christmas Island tragedy. Tissues got passed down from the backbenches to the woman who sits next to Ken Wyatt. I don't know her name.

Bronwyn Bishop took the piss, the stupid cow. It was as if she trashed the idea of putting aside "partisan politics", as they say.
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She is living proof humans can survive in the modern world without a stitch of humanity about them :(
 
And it looks like some Lib backbenchers may cross the floor to vote for Oakshot's asylum seeker bill, involving offshore peocessing in Nauru and Malaysia. This could be a very important vote, even though it's very unlikely to get through the Senate.
 
I will admit that on the boat people debate I'm finding myself more in agreement with the Greens than anyone else. We really do need a better solution than "go somewhere else". But if your aim is to stop the boats in their tracks, sending them to Malaysia is probably the best way to go.

But of course that would probably end up removing a bogeyman that the Liberals have been using for quite a while now.
 
Where is Alfie.
He agreed with me months ago when I suggested a compromise Nauru and Malaysia solution.
I wonder if he feels the same now.
 
Yes I do. Anything to stop the deaths. That said, Malaysia is still a crappy idea.

Also, the worst PM ever should meet anything that is put on the table. Her words say "compromise" but her politics and actions - judging by parliament today - remain "do it my way".
 
And yet who's authority will be undermined if Lib backbenchers cross the floor, as seems likely?

Worst Opposition Leader ever. By far.
 
Harry Jenkins is talking now. A very good Speaker, but also a good debater.

What really annoys me is that Labor is prepared to compromise, and at least some of the Libs support the compromise. The Chamber is almost empty now. Abbott and his puppy, Pyne, are no doubt putting the blowtorch to the dissidents.
 
The worst opposition leader ever. That's a laugh. So far he has managed the scalp of K Rudd, nearly brought down a first term government, he has Gillard on the ropes in terms of her own leadership (there are still rumours of her impending fall), and he holds an amazing 2pp lead in the polls. He has the Labor government backflipping on policy to now reintroduce offshore processing.

You might hate him and his policies but in terms of KRAs, his employers and he would be very happy with the results to date.

As for Gillard....
 
A.A. Alfie said:
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What would you like to see happen?
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Are you really following this? Labor is prepared to support Nauru as a processing centre.

But don't recant. Your posts consistently display irrational hatred for Labor and (mysogenist?) hatred for Gillard.
 
lionking said:
Are you really following this? Labor is prepared to support Nauru as a processing centre.
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So you are suggesting that Gillard should offer a compromise and then withdraw that offer.

Nice

Or perhaps, you are saying that Labor should stick to their Malaysian solution guns and allow more deaths at sea.

Even nicer.
 
A.A. Alfie said:
So you are suggesting that Gillard should offer a compromise and then withdraw that offer.

Nice

Or perhaps, you are saying that Labor should stick to their Malaysian solution guns and allow more deaths at sea.

Even nicer.
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Just as I thought, you are not following this issue at all. Thanks for the confirmation.
 
I really don't know how Abbott can look at himself in the mirror. There is a solution at hand to stop these boats. Abbott is digging his heels in. If backbenchers cross the floor, Abbott is doomed.
 
lionking said:
I really don't know how Abbott can look at himself in the mirror. There is a solution at hand to stop these boats. Abbott is digging his heels in. If backbenchers cross the floor, Abbott is doomed.
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But that's not evidence that Abbott is a bad leader, it just means that... uhh... err... umm... that Gillard... is bad... because... Liberal backbenchers voted with her on something?
 
A.A. Alfie said:
The worst opposition leader ever. That's a laugh. So far he has managed the scalp of K Rudd, nearly brought down a first term government, he has Gillard on the ropes in terms of her own leadership (there are still rumours of her impending fall), and he holds an amazing 2pp lead in the polls. He has the Labor government backflipping on policy to now reintroduce offshore processing.

You might hate him and his policies but in terms of KRAs, his employers and he would be very happy with the results to date.
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Oh, Alfie, darling.

You're telling me none of that happens to be incidental, residual "success" from Gillard being the "worst PM ever", and has everything to do with Abbott's political prowess? Considering how badly he's doing in the approval ratings, that position is totally untenable.

What I'm trying to say is: if you wore an eye patch, you'd be blind.

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As for Gillard....
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... her politics has been impressive. She controlled a minority government where Abbott could not; her government helped Australia through one of the biggest global economic crises in recent history; she poached an opposition MP to fill the role of Speaker within that minority government in order to shore up numbers; she had the guts to introduce a revolutionary and unpopular carbon tax to keep the Greens content, an area where Abbott fails hopelessly; and, she has shown an ability to offer compromise not just to the Greens and Independents, but also to the Opposition.

Abbott has been calling everything a sign of the apocalypse. He is a lazy, slimy politician who places his political ambition ahead of practical solutions. His doomsday prophecy, as Emerson quite aptly put it, has actually had an impact on consumer confidence and makes Australia out to be a Greek dystopia when it is actually the envy of the world.
 
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