attack on Iran **WILL START** within next 6 months

[Garrette]

Maybe Darth can back me up on this, but I hear that U.S. carrier fleets are closing in on Afghanistan, and will soon be pulling into port at Kabul.

It's Bagram. They're digging the ditches now and will soon begin filling them with water. Whether to helo the carriers in for an airdrop or to manhandle them across the Persian Plateau is yet to be decided.

 

[Darth Rotor]

It's not the notion that The cold war was one conflict that I object to, it's simply that it can be called a world war. It simply doesn't bear any similarity to the 2 actual world wars. Not only was the intensity of the conflict much lower, the two major enemies were never actually at war. The cold war fails to be a world war simply by virtue of not being a war. If one must absolutely designate more wars "world wars" I really think that the Napoleonic wars are the best candidate.

I see your point. Wars were fought as a part of the larger, more static conflict all over the globe. Battles of the Cold War included Korea, Viet Nam, Angola, Nicaragua, Ethiopia, Eritrea, and various scrapes in the Mid East. A different kind of war, but a global (hence world) war. I realize that conceptulalization takes some paradigm breaking. If you read "By Any Means Necessary" you will note that plenty of Americans died in the Cold war by direct Soviet Action.

The Napoleonic Wars, 1796-1815, would certainly fit the global model. Was that World War 0, or was that the Seven Years War World War O?



DR

 

[Darth Rotor]

It's Bagram. They're digging the ditches now and will soon begin filling them with water. Whether to helo the carriers in for an airdrop or to manhandle them across the Persian Plateau is yet to be decided.

Dude, Kandahar is the liberty port of choice. Burkha Babes, man, and all the mint flavored tea you can drink.

DR

 

[Kerberos]

I think a case can be made for the Cold War being a World War in that there were proxy wars (and wars mistakenly seen as proxy wars) and in that the seemingly unavoidable conflagration drove major foreign policy decisions for several camps.

As to the Napoleonic wars, I've made the same point to several people, though I would push the start of the World War back to at least the American Revolution and possibly to the French and Indian War (you might know it as the 7 Years War).

I see your point. Wars were fought as a part of the larger, more static conflict all over the globe. Battles of the Cold War included Korea, Viet Nam, Angola, Nicaragua, Ethiopia, Eritrea, and various scrapes in the Mid East. A different kind of war, but a global (hence world) war. I realize that conceptulalization takes some paradigm breaking. If you read "By Any Means Necessary" you will note that plenty of Americans died in the Cold war by direct Soviet Action.

The Napoleonic Wars, 1796-1815, would certainly fit the global model. Was that World War 0, or was that the Seven Years War World War O?

I suppose it depends on what you mean by a World War. I would define a world war as a high intensity war involving all or most of the major powers of the time and representing a major (or perhaps even total) mobilization of resources towards the war effort, not simply a war where actions are fought across the globe. While The Cold War was global it was a) restricted to very small areas of active warfare at a time, b) restricted to the geopolitical periphery (that is no warfare in Europe, the US or the East block) and c) at no time involving a major mobilization of resources on the part of the US and it's western allies. This depends of cause on what you call major, but compared to WW1 and WW2 I think that US mobilization towards the war effort, even during the Korean War and Vietnam War, can fairly be called minor, in terms of military expenditure, manpower used and lives lost.

As for the Seven Years War I don’t know much about what happened outside of the Prussian theatre, but it’s my impression that acts of war were indeed quite limited outside of this area, and that the mobilization of resources for the war effort was only complete in Prussia itself, and not in the other major powers involved.

Concerning the American revolution I know relatively little, particularly not about what happened outside of the US itself, but it’s not my impression that the war was significantly bigger or more important than any number of other conflict between the European great powers in that period. Though as I said, I don’t know much about it, so I could be wrong.

 

[SezMe]

When your IQ hits 50, sell.

Carrier battle groups rotate on roughly six month deployment cycles. One leaves, another takes it place.

Beyond that, your post is risible and not worthy of further comment.

DR

Ya know, Darth, your middle paragraph, standing alone, would have made him look ill-informed and maybe even foolish.

The other two took you down a peg or two and detracted from your point. More's the pity.

 

[Darth Rotor]

Ya know, Darth, your middle paragraph, standing alone, would have made him look ill-informed and maybe even foolish.

The other two took you down a peg or two and detracted from your point. More's the pity.

True. It is hard, sometimes, to suffer fools gladly. A weakness.

DR