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ATTACK for Fail

Magyar said:
well, ignoring the misquote for a moment - can this bimbo complete a SINGLE thought without misinterpreting or miss understanding it -

Did you catch how ALL the women in the audience bood when Madeline Albright's name was mentioned ?

Can you say express elevator to hell - going down please!
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Somebody wake up Hicks.
 
SezMe said:
Listen carefully to the first seven words Palin said in the clip Zen posted in #31: "I was readin' today a copy of ..." What the hell kind of accent is that? I've been to Alaska many times but never heard anyone talk like that. Idaho - I don't know. Or is this just more effort at being folksy?
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To continue the derail, her accent drives me up the friggin' wall. Coming from the south, that nasaly midwestern twang is like nails on a chalkboard.
 
kallsop said:
McCain had a chance to really drive home his economic prudence by opposing the >$800B pork rich bailout. McCain just got in line with the other pickpockets. Barring an October surprise, McCain just lost the election.
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Agreed. After the recent bad economic news, I though McCain was going to have his work cut out for him battling back. But after he lined up with everyone else on the bailout, I figured he was f'''ed as the bad news hurts him worse than Obama.

Still, this may end up being an election in which the winner ends up wishing he hadn't.
 
corplinx said:
Palin went extremely negative today portraying Obama relationship with Bill Ayers as "palling around with terrorists".

Stick a form in em, these two are done. When this is all you have left, your done. When we're down to the dude Obama did some work with a decade ago or something, its a concession.
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Palin is toning down the message just a tad today ...

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27049473/

"This is someone who sees America as 'imperfect enough' to work with a former domestic terrorist who targeted his own country," Palin said of Obama.

That was a tamer description than Palin used at rallies in California and Colorado over the weekend. But it still showed that Palin was slipping into the traditional attack-dog role of vice presidential candidates.
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Palling around has turned into "work with".
 
I posted this on another thread but I think this is pretty important (and sick actually) so I wanted to cross post it here for reference.....

"And, according to the New York Times, he was a domestic terrorist and part of a group that, quote, 'launched a campaign of bombings that would target the Pentagon and our U.S. Capitol,'" she (Palin) continued.

"Boooo!" the crowd repeated.

"Kill him!" proposed one man in the audience.
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http://voices.washingtonpost.com/the..._the_roug.html

Again, I think we are kidding ourselves if we think this stuff can't work. It has in the past it just has never been tried when the economy was on such shaky ground.
 
not_so_new said:
I posted this on another thread but I think this is pretty important (and sick actually) so I wanted to cross post it here for reference.....




http://voices.washingtonpost.com/the..._the_roug.html

Again, I think we are kidding ourselves if we think this stuff can't work. It has in the past it just has never been tried when the economy was on such shaky ground.
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On any other day or week, the negative would have an effect. But somehow, the U.S. economy flushing down the drain is making more noise.
 
DavidJames said:
On any other day or week, the negative would have an effect. But somehow, the U.S. economy flushing down the drain is making more noise.
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I guess.... it is getting a whole lot worse out there so the attack stuff might not get any traction... Still worries me that this stuff is being said out there and the nut jobs that McCain and Palin are stirring up make me a little concerned.
 
Here's an interesting analysis by FiveThirtyEight.com which explains why McCain/Palin's "terrorist" charge against Obama is (probably) doomed to failure...

Why It (Probably) Won't Work

... I am not here to dispute that this is McCain's best strategy -- in the same way that an onside kick is a team's best strategy when it trails late in the game with no timeouts left. But like the onside kick, it is fairly unlikely to work.

For one thing, increasing numbers of middle class Americans may already have decided that Barack Obama is their home team. One of the more powerful dynamics during the first Presidential debate is that Obama, in the first 15 minutes of the proceedings, pointed to himself and said, "Hey! Middle Class! I'm your guy!". McCain did not mention the middle class, instead reverting to traditional Republican talking points about supply-side economics. From there forward in that debate, dial testers reacted poorly when McCain attacked Obama, or appeared to be contemptuous of him. ...
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... It may be quite difficult for McCain to attack Obama in this fashion without significantly damaging his own brand. The chart below presents a smoothed curve of each candidate's net favorability ratings since the first of the year:



What's interesting is that, with the exception of the past couple of weeks, McCain's and Obama's ratings have been fairly strongly correlated, tending to rise and fall together. This is not to say that negative campaigning doesn't work -- it sometimes does -- but it works at diminished efficiency, because you may be giving back 50 cents on the dollar by harming your own approval scores.

If the McCain campaign brings up William Ayers -- or Jeremiah Wright -- it will almost certianly be seen as attack politics. This might seem to be stating the obvious. But remember that this wasn't the case during the primaries. The Wright and Ayers stories were instead driven by actual news -- ABC's reporting of Wright's inflammatory sermons, for instance -- and were largely not pushed by the Clinton campaign. So unless McCain's oppo research team is sitting on some fresh news about Obama's ties to Ayers or Wright, the stories are liable to be reported as a typical partisan attack, which will impeach their credibility in the public's eyes and reduce their staying power. ...
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Having said that this doesn't really put Obama into any political danger, I will agree with other posters here about one thing: the real danger of these veiled references to Obama "palling around with terrorists" is that some whackjob will decide to kill him "for the good of the country". That might actually be one reason why Palin has backed off her previous comments since Saturday, because if something were to happen to Obama the Secret Service might be looking her direction. I've got the feeling that McCain has told her to tone it down as well - let's hope he's that smart.
 
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MattusMaximus said:
Having said that this doesn't really put Obama into any political danger, I will agree with other posters here about one thing: the real danger of these veiled references to Obama "palling around with terrorists" is that some whackjob will decide to kill him "for the good of the country". That might actually be one reason why Palin has backed off her previous comments since Saturday, because if something were to happen to Obama the Secret Service might be looking her direction.
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This is over the top. Palin would have to go much, much further than she did today for the Secret Service to even glance in her direction. Remember that guy who killed a couple of people in a UU church? He apparently was partly motivated by extremist right wing talkers on the radio. Nothing happened to them.

That said, I do hope the SS has a VERY sharp team guarding Obama. I think the probablility of an assasinaton attempt on him is higher than background noise.
 
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MattusMaximus said:
The link doesn't work.
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Hummmm... that's interesting. I checked the link before I submitted my post. That was the correct link but the page is now gone. Here is the link again, maybe they changed something with the file path? I didn't look at the original.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/10/06/in_fla_palin_goes_for_the_roug.html

Here are some other people talking about it if this link goes down as well.

http://www.talkleft.com/story/2008/10/6/22537/3821

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/10/6/142116/783

In fairness, the guy who yells "Kill him" could have been talking about Ayers but that is also unethical. Palin should have backed the whole thing down at that point but she does not have enough experience with the big leagues.
 
*sigh*

Worse, Palin's routine attacks on the media have begun to spill into ugliness. In Clearwater, arriving reporters were greeted with shouts and taunts by the crowd of about 3,000. Palin then went on to blame Katie Couric's questions for her "less-than-successful interview with kinda mainstream media." At that, Palin supporters turned on reporters in the press area, waving thunder sticks and shouting abuse. Others hurled obscenities at a camera crew. One Palin supporter shouted a racial epithet at an African American sound man for a network and told him, "Sit down, boy."
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/10/06/AR2008100602935.html

I don't see this ending well for the country and that makes me very sad.
 
MattusMaximus said:
Good gawd - I just read that story. If Palin keeps this up, I'm going to start getting genuinely concerned about the rage that she's stoking. Most people will just get whipped up for a rally, but there are those who will take her words to heart and go over the edge. Yikes. :boggled:
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Yeah, that was a sobering article from the Post. I've said it before: she's Stillson from "The Dead Zone".
 
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