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s_pepys said:
Dick Carrier blogs about how vile thunderf00t is.

http://freethoughtblogs.com/carrier/archives/3364/

Dick seems to ignore all his own past statements. using all the tricks he accuses TF of. he is a hypocrite. imo.

pz rates carriers evaluation of the video even though he admits he hasnt even watched the video in question.

http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2013/04/10/did-richard-carrier-have-to-remind-me/

atheism is not beleiving in aa god. end of. wish these jackasses could grasp that concept!
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reposted dicks reply to thunderf00ts rebuttal of his vid.
 
Oh my....

Used Hamilton was banned last night by global moderator ceepolk with the following explanation.

okay, that's it. Hamilton, since you're completely incapable of behaving as if anyone here is deserving of being treated with respect and dignity, you're finished.
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Then global moderator Flewellen hits it out of irony park and completely dehumanizes Hamilton with the following comment.


"And nothing of value was lost."
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SJWs....demanding so much but delivering so little.
 
Stout said:
Oh my....

Used Hamilton was banned last night by global moderator ceepolk with the following explanation.



Then global moderator Flewellen hits it out of irony park and completely dehumanizes Hamilton with the following comment.




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SJWs....demanding so much but delivering so little.
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That thread reads to me as an example of banning someone for not letting the moderators win the argument.
 
Humes fork said:
I think humanism captures what they want, but apparently it's too white.

But to me it seems unlikely to die out in the near future.
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Maybe this can invigorate humanism. Part of the reason religion is more vibrant in the United States than in Europe is because religions were forced to compete with each other for customers rather than being endorsed by and receiving financial support from the government.

I think it's healthy for atheists to be for something as a group, rather than simply (and usually passive) opponents of religion. Whether it's providing books for children who don't have them, or conducting blood drives, or running food banks, or picking up trash, maybe a little competition with the goal of accomplishing something positive will be a good thing.
 
Stout said:
Oh my....

Used Hamilton was banned last night by global moderator ceepolk with the following explanation.

okay, that's it. Hamilton, since you're completely incapable of behaving as if anyone here is deserving of being treated with respect and dignity, you're finished.
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Then global moderator Flewellen hits it out of irony park and completely dehumanizes Hamilton with the following comment.


"And nothing of value was lost."
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Thread

SJWs....demanding so much but delivering so little.
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I would like to see either quints or AA explain why Hamilton deserved to be banned for rightly pointing out to Setar that he never said what Setar claimed. Hamilton was completely mild in his rebuke of Setar "If you aren't going to actually read my posts, I am going to ignore you". BANNED.
 
kbonn said:
I would like to see either quints or AA explain why Hamilton deserved to be banned for rightly pointing out to Setar that he never said what Setar claimed. Hamilton was completely mild in his rebuke of Setar "If you aren't going to actually read my posts, I am going to ignore you". BANNED.
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I'm guessing Setar was in the secret forum screaming about how he's being disrespected and demanding action be taken. The whole offense is in the eye of the beholder thing.

I see they've gotten some fresh prey in the past few days, any guesses as to who's going to get banned next ?
 
Since first posting in this thread, I've taken the time to check the online buzz about A+. From what I can tell, the consensus leans towards "I like these values, but not only is this unnecessary, it is promoted in a needlessly divisive way. No thanks". I predict it will eventually become nothing more than a memory.

It actually makes me proud of the atheist community. If everybody had only fallen in line and there was a huge purging of "undesirables" (as this Carrier guy wants), then a lot of the things critics say about atheists WRT them being dogmatic and like a religion would be more true.
 
Tony said:
Since first posting in this thread, I've taken the time to check the online buzz about A+. From what I can tell, the consensus leans towards "I like these values, but not only is this unnecessary, it is promoted in a needlessly divisive way. No thanks". I predict it will eventually become nothing more than a memory.

It actually makes me proud of the atheist community. If everybody had only fallen in line and there was a huge purging of "undesirables" (as this Carrier guy wants), then a lot of the things critics say about atheists WRT them being dogmatic and like a religion would be more true.
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Great post. Agreed.
 
Tony said:
Since first posting in this thread, I've taken the time to check the online buzz about A+. From what I can tell, the consensus leans towards "I like these values, but not only is this unnecessary, it is promoted in a needlessly divisive way. No thanks". I predict it will eventually become nothing more than a memory.

It actually makes me proud of the atheist community. If everybody had only fallen in line and there was a huge purging of "undesirables" (as this Carrier guy wants), then a lot of the things critics say about atheists WRT them being dogmatic and like a religion would be more true.
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A+ just proves that atheists are humans and subject to the same foibles as all of us thin haired monkeys. Not believing in a god doesn't endow one with a superior intellect or even a skeptical one.

A+ neither picks my pocket or breaks my leg so I try not to pay it any attention.
 
Tony said:
(I read political blogs more than atheist blogs).
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That's interesting. I somewhat lost interest in them when I realized that politics just boils down to opinions (coupled with factual analysis sometimes) and the habit of looking at opponents' viewpoints and adopt the contrary one. With science and religion we are at least dealing with matters of fact. It's possible to be wrong. I feel more comfortable arguing such subjects.

But of course, the US has basically just two political factions, one semi-sane and one ******* crazy, so it's probably easier to strongly align with such a binary choice.
 
Mr. Scott said:
From the mouth of global moderator ceepolk:

thhere's waaaay too much colonialism and white supremacy in our culture to even THINK about addressing the religion of brown people, the end.
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I don't believe anyone there challenged ceepolk's statement about hands-off the religions of brown people, thereby either agreeing, or being afraid of her banhammer. It's been said that ceepolk isn't even an atheist, which, if true, makes one wonder why she's there.
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Heh, that quote looks like a caricature made by the opponents of atheism plus. That's what I would suspect if I couldn't cross-check their forum by the link.

That thread is a goldmine btw. What a hillariously stupid joke the whole thing is.

These people apparently think the Celts are native to the British Isles. Hah! They are not, they migrated and replaced the pre-Celtic cultures there (though not the people really, as about 75% of all Englishmen are descended from the Neolithic peoples who lived there). I could go on about who the Celts were, that they were widely used as mercenaries all-over ancient Europe, northern Africa and western Asia, but I'll probably stop here.
 
Quinn shoots...he SCORES!! Nuthin but net!

Quinn said:
Tsukasa Buddha said:
Randomly, what's with the term "lived experience"?
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It's their term for what the rest of us call "an unintentional, unverifiable, undocumented experiment with no control group and a sample size of one."
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A true gem this definition, Quinn. Definitely sig worthy. :clap:

So where are Myriad and Luchog? I thought they'd have Apostate's text wall all parsed out by now! I'm too old for this kind of job. Damn, we've got A+er's right here willing to defend their opinions so why focus on setar and ceepolk's latest shenanigans? Has anyone here really not figured out how unbalanced they and their crew are already?
 
ApostateltsopA said:
And? Lets take your example. Lets say I'm talking to a christian who believes their fore bearers were horribly tortured for Christianity. They take offense at my desire for secular government. Would it be right for me to post my feelings all over their pro-christ in government chat board?
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I know this wasn't addressed to me, but I want to answer anyway. I will let others who have more history in this conversation address the rest. To answer your question, YES it would be right. As long as you were civil and rational.

Would you seek out such a place to rub secularism in their faces?
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I have and a lot of people here have as well.

Would you get up in arms if you were banned from the christian chat room for that behavior?
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I would only get up in arms if they claim to value critical thinking, free speech and the free exchange of ideas while banning people who dissented with their views or methods. Doing so would make them frauds and hypocrites. Otherwise, a banning would elicit an "eh, I expect religious people to silence ideas they don't like" and really only serve to confirm their insecurities with contrary views.

It seems we agree that more christ in government is bad, do you disagree with me that less sexism in government is good?
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I think less sexism in government is good.
 
Humes fork said:
Heh, that quote looks like a caricature made by the opponents of atheism plus. That's what I would suspect if I couldn't cross-check their forum by the link.

That thread is a goldmine btw. What a hillariously stupid joke the whole thing is.

These people apparently think the Celts are native to the British Isles. Hah! They are not, they migrated and replaced the pre-Celtic cultures there (though not the people really, as about 75% of all Englishmen are descended from the Neolithic peoples who lived there). I could go on about who the Celts were, that they were widely used as mercenaries all-over ancient Europe, northern Africa and western Asia, but I'll probably stop here.
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I know, it's worthy of The Onion. It was hard to google for the quote so I was worried that ceepolk had come to her senses and deleted it, but there it remains. Her "no, no, no, don't look at brown peoples' religion" makes me wonder if she actually follows one she doesn't want examined. The quote was brought up here before, and it was pointed out that Christianity, AFAIK, started as a brown people's religion. Correct me if I'm wrong.

However, I really don't think religions should be judged by the skin colors of their originators or adherents.
 
Hi Tony,

Phone post so brief, as opposed to my mighty text walls above.

I'm glad we agree about the last bit. What would you hope to gain by evangalizing atheism on a christian board? It seems to me you would be exporting hostility however politely you phrased it.

I leave the religious folk alone on their spaces. I engage with them in public and especially when their agends is negativly impacting others. However when they set up a forum I reguard it as an online version of their church. I have no desire to spend time in churches, see little gain in visiting without an invite and a purpose.

One notable exception, many churches contain amazing artwork and I'll seek that out when I'm touristing.
 
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