3. Go try and disagree with Rebecca or someone on that site (or off the site) and see how fast the skepchick network minions jump on you and eat you alive. Even writing this post my fiance said to me “you’re marking yourself as an enemy” because speaking out against the skepchick network puts a mark on you; it shouldn’t be that way. The skepchicks call for apologies from people all the time but I think they should apologize for being pretty nasty/silly to people (especially in comments; which… I don’t have the time or energy to sort through right now).
4. As an academic I value freedom of speech, good & rich discussions and logical conclusions; this is rarely found on the skepchick network. I don’t value hypocritical crap. They do realize that with the whole Ron Lindsay kurfuffle they are proving the exact point that Lindsay was trying to make, right?
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Skepchick runs on drama and I’m getting too tired for that and I no longer want to be associated with such irrational and strong reactions to legitimate concerns and questions arising in the skeptics community.
I don't dislike Watson. She was one of the reasons I listened to Skeptics Guide To The Universe for years. I hate the disgusting comments made to her and about her. I care about women's rights and I don't want women to be harassed anywhere. But there are reasonable people who disagree with her. I resent that she rhetorically puts everyone into one of two camps. Those who agree with her and misogynists. No hate from me.
I agree with you. When she wants to, she can be very good on SGU; she was on the last podcast. Unfortunately, she seems less and less interested in the show, and as she burns bridges, less tolerant of anyone but her clique.
Yes and no. It's complicated. Remember France is a Mediterranean country. It's more of a north/south divide, just like in and within the Americas. As I said before, most of our immigrants from the south are mostly Native American wrt ethnicity. Similar to the way mulattos in South Africa looked down on their fellow Africans, those in Latin America feel superior to their more directly/visibly related indigenous kin. For most Mexicans and mulattos further south, to be called an Indian (casino not slurpy ) is an insult. Seems to me this kind of thing always occurs in cases where a country is conquered and occupied by an outside group. :dunno:
Sup qwints! Is it just me or is the prior interaction requirement be cited more often over the last month or so? And yet lots of early comments are discouraged for not reading all in their basket, lol.
Doubt anyone noticed, but I was absent itt for a while. Hadn't even kept up with all the reading. Any new A+ers that have joined the discussion I missed? Big news like ceepolk not banning someone being dogpiled, yaknow, for like..disrupting the forum?
Trigger Warning: The following may be off topic, so for those who find derails traumatic be advised. It concerns adding another site to the ones being discussed itt. Jhunter please answer questions at end.
Reason I haven't been around much lately is I was watching a rather spectacular meltdown happening at talkrational.org. (TR) It began with a couple unbelievably rare suspensions in an attempt to address the exodus of active users. A+ style dogpiling/harassment on steroids has been the norm at TR for years. I only stick around as the wind cart thread landed there after it being put on mod status here and later running into trouble at RDF. Feels almost like coming home catching up itt. Like a kindergarten teacher after a rough day stepping into the teachers lounge and listening to adult conversation. What a long, strange trip it's been.
The latest TR drama has got it all. Members scoffing at PM warnings; mods pulling a mutiny and pushing buttons supposedly reserved for admins and unbanning a banned member; admins all in hiding; International art theft charges leading to the artist being banned but not the promoter who allegedly stole his 6 paintings and was a TR mod-natch-who after laying low amidst the furor was defrocked; recall votes on all 4 admins; cats and dogs, sleeping together!!!
Ravenscape, the ultra-dominant driving force at TR, lives in the Bay area and writes/edits software. Another co-founder is Febble, aka published cognitive neuroscientist Dr. Elizabeth Liddle. While not still on staff she has 37k posts on TR, Raven 80k. Sounds like a good plot for a book to me. Neuroscientist teams up with a silicon valley IT pro to create a kind of virtual Stanford Prison Experiment? Or perhaps Lord of the Flies was their model, with a different slant. Give the children (mentally anyway) an equal vote with the few adults on how to control infantile behavior, and see what happens.
A+ is p. much dead afaics, and just can't match this show. When the TR admins were faced with a revolt by a cadre of the resident chronic rule abusers, they caved. They have an A+ thread like this one, and quite a few who logged in at A+ were quickly banned based on comments made at TR. Sound familiar? The real irony is all the ways the two sites are similar, and now TR is even on the cusp of moving in the same direction wrt blaming the dogpiling targets for trolling and disrupting the forum. Staff discussions are public there, and I have quotes. Add the fact that any member can start a recall for any mod or admin, and it looks like good times are still a comin there.
The denouement of TR is in process now, with half the admins up for reelection. Much of the drama has abated, but many questions remain unasked, let alone answered. My reason for posting this here is to see if there is any interest in adding TR to the other sites being discussed itt. It is much larger and more active than A+, averaging about 50 logged over the day, even during it's current decline. But I realize it's not part of the SJW scene, so I'm not sure if it would fit here. If not, I apologize and request all the above about TR be deleted. Please also advise me what would be the correct forum for an analysis of TR thread. "Experiment in democratic moderation mutiny?" will be the tittle unless some of the wags here suggest a better one.
Lots of bad energy has developed in this remnant of the net's wild west days. The cart thread was p. insular there so it took me a long time to notice as that's where I spent like 90% of my time. Hate the thought of losing access to the nearly 5 thousand pages from this epic saga that began here at JREF in '08. It led to and witnessed 2 world records for wind powered vehicles-directly upwind and down-and countless experiments posted on YouTube. And TR as a whole might yet serve as an example of what happens over time when none of the rules are enforced. It sure ain't purty at times.
BIG problem in the SJ community wrt atheism. It seems that the FSM is a tool of the patriarchy. Yep, in FSM heaven, there's a stripper factory.
Even funnier is Setard's post where he proposes an alternative to FSM, an alternative to something that's supposed to be worshiped. Nooo that's not patriarchal at all now is it ?
And these invisible pink unicorns....Just what does that erect thing sticking out of a unicorn's head resemble ? They need something else fictitious, like a fur bearing trout, oh no wait..there could be all sorts of intonations wrung out of that. How about a right hand sidehill gouger...ummm nope, discriminates against lefties. Jackelope ?
• Take a 192-page book.
• Find the 8 sentences that make an obvious joke about something deemed problematic in SJ land.
• Based on that, send up a rallying cry to abandon not just just the joke, and not just the book, but the entire subject that the book is about.
Even funnier is Setard's post where he proposes an alternative to FSM, an alternative to something that's supposed to be worshiped. Nooo that's not patriarchal at all now is it ?
Chippendales are just female strippers with male skins, so they still degrade women. If I were an A+ Mod and said it first they'd all fall in line, "yep, yep, yep..."
BIG problem in the SJ community wrt atheism. It seems that the FSM is a tool of the patriarchy. Yep, in FSM heaven, there's a stripper factory.
Even funnier is Setard's post where he proposes an alternative to FSM, an alternative to something that's supposed to be worshiped. Nooo that's not patriarchal at all now is it ?
Atheism+ embodies one of the things that I always found oppressive and annoying in Christianity: the shunning of anything not approved by the community. Don't listen to that music, it's got Satan in it. Don't watch that TV show, it's got Satan in it. Throw out those comic books! There's scantily-clad women in there! Satan!
I should be able to enjoy life without having to feel guilty about everything I do. The A+ers are on a heavy, Christian-style guilt trip. It's just that instead of Satan, they have "the patriarchy". Don't watch that TV show, it objectifies women. So does that video game! Here's a list of "forbidden words", purge them from your vocabulary!
(FWIW, the Invisible Pink Unicorn predates the Flying Spaghetti Monster. I don't find it as entertaining, though, and it doesn't have pirates.)
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) is an insult. Seems to me this kind of thing always occurs in cases where a country is conquered and occupied by an outside group. :dunno:
