At Least One Republican Hasn't Lost His Mind...

[Belz...]

In many ways I am a Schteaznegger Republican.
I live in Sacramento, and I saw he and his family when he was the Guvanator eating at Leatherby's a very popular ice cream parlor.
I have seen Jerry Brown there a couple of times, and no doubt will dee the next governor.
There Cookie Dough Ice Cream is to die for.

Who the hell is Schteaznegger?

 

[PhantomWolf]

This was already hashed out decades ago when there was some push to enact a bill to allow foreign-born to run for pres. Nothing ever came of it.

One of the main reasons for it was that it was being pushed by a group of people that wanted him to be President and wasn't really supported by Arnie himself. Then after he left office the whole affair and love child scandal blow up and effectively ended both his marriage and any chance of him running for President anyways.

 

[CORed]

It would take more then a bill, it would take amending the US Constition...the prohibition spelled out in the Constituion. Not impossible, but very difficult.

True. I would support such an amendment, but I don't think it would have much chance of passing. I think the requirement for the President to be a natural born citizen was originally enacted out of fear that some European power would try to get a puppet elected as POTUS, which might have been a reasonable fear then, but I don't really see it as such now. I see no reason a naturalized citizen shouldn't be allowed to run, and serve if elected.

 

[rdaneel]

True. I would support such an amendment, but I don't think it would have much chance of passing. I think the requirement for the President to be a natural born citizen was originally enacted out of fear that some European power would try to get a puppet elected as POTUS, which might have been a reasonable fear then, but I don't really see it as such now. I see no reason a naturalized citizen shouldn't be allowed to run, and serve if elected.

There's certainly no evidence that "natural born citizens" are immune to being puppets of Rus..., er, foreign powers.

 

[Stacyhs]

A foreign born president may have conscious or subconscious bias toward his former country and/or bias against historical enemies of his former country. I think the native born requirement should remain.

 

[xjx388]

A foreign born president may have conscious or subconscious bias toward his former country and/or bias against historical enemies of his former country. I think the native born requirement should remain.

What about a native born citizen of parents who immigrated from a hostile nation? It’s certainly possible that they could have the same kinds of biases you talk about.

I think there were good reasons to have the requirement when the Constitution was written but they don’t really apply anymore. We are a nation of immigrants after all so I see no reason why a naturalized citizen should be denied the opportunity.


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[Hellbound]

A foreign born president may have conscious or subconscious bias toward his former country and/or bias against historical enemies of his former country. I think the native born requirement should remain.

Conversely, it's just as likely that a native-born citizen will have business or other interests in foreign markets that also give him/her a conscious or unconscious bias towards another country.

I don't think the native-born requirement offers any protection.

I do like the residency requirement, though; has to have lived here 14 years before being eligible. Might be reasonable to up that to 20, even.

 

[Hercules Rockefeller]

 

[Stacyhs]

Conversely, it's just as likely that a native-born citizen will have business or other interests in foreign markets that also give him/her a conscious or unconscious bias towards another country.

I don't think the native-born requirement offers any protection.

I do like the residency requirement, though; has to have lived here 14 years before being eligible. Might be reasonable to up that to 20, even.

That's always possible but this is why US presidents are expected to divest themselves of such interests or put them in a blind trust. It is impossible to remove all conscious/subconscious bias but our Founding Fathers obviously felt differently about the native-born requirement offering protection.

 

[dudalb]

Anothere GOPer who seems to have to act his act together is the Governor of Maryland.
Maryland is a blue state, but he was easily relelected.
It is also noticeable that he keeps his distance as much as possible from Trumpy,

BTW I am interested ins seeing Arnie reunited with Linda Hamilton in the upcoming Terminator movie...it's the first one since T2 that James Cameron is heavily involved in.
One good sign;in this version none of the Terminator movies beyond T2 happened.

 

[Stacyhs]

Anothere GOPer who seems to have to act his act together is the Governor of Maryland.
Maryland is a blue state, but he was easily relelected.
It is also noticeable that he keeps his distance as much as possible from Trumpy,

BTW I am interested ins seeing Arnie reunited with Linda Hamilton in the upcoming Terminator movie...it's the first one since T2 that James Cameron is heavily involved in.
One good sign;in this version none of the Terminator movies beyond T2 happened.

I've never seen a single Terminator movie. Don't plan to, either. Not my cup of tea.

 

[TurkeysGhost]

Anothere GOPer who seems to have to act his act together is the Governor of Maryland.
Maryland is a blue state, but he was easily relelected.
It is also noticeable that he keeps his distance as much as possible from Trumpy,
.

Similar situation with Gov. Baker in MA. He may have an R by his name, but that's about as Republican as he gets. Compared to national politics, he's basically a conservative democrat. Makes for uncomfortable moments when he was supposed to be out supporting his fellow Republicans running for national politics, as they had little in common.

Pointing to these governors is not very instructive beyond their state borders, they are well outside mainstream Republican politics.

 

[Belz...]

I've never seen a single Terminator movie. Don't plan to, either.

The first one's a masterpiece of sci-fi thriller and the second possibly the best action movie ever made.

You should give it a go. Even if you don't like the first one, the second's quite different.

 

[lobosrul5]

Anothere GOPer who seems to have to act his act together is the Governor of Maryland.
Maryland is a blue state, but he was easily relelected.
It is also noticeable that he keeps his distance as much as possible from Trumpy,

BTW I am interested ins seeing Arnie reunited with Linda Hamilton in the upcoming Terminator movie...it's the first one since T2 that James Cameron is heavily involved in.
One good sign;in this version none of the Terminator movies beyond T2 happened.

Curious to see how they explain away Arnies' obvious aging.

 

[Hellbound]

Curious to see how they explain away Arnies' obvious aging.

Obviously he'll be an older model...

*Ba-dump-ching!*

 

[Belz...]

Curious to see how they explain away Arnies' obvious aging.

They could do like in Genisys and simply have his biological parts age normally.

 

[Stacyhs]

The first one's a masterpiece of sci-fi thriller and the second possibly the best action movie ever made.

You should give it a go. Even if you don't like the first one, the second's quite different.

I don't care for 'action' movies.

 

[PhantomWolf]

[qimg]https://i.imgur.com/fSJBzmD.jpg[/qimg]

Sadly I believe that this is faked.

The shot is a taken from a larger one of Arnold walking beside Harrison Ford, who is wearing a green flight suit, which you can just see on the right hand side. Other versions include two different "Han shot first" mock ups, and I found a third photo of the two of them, Ford wearing the same flight suit, while Arnold has on a blue jacket over the top of a plain black T-Shirt.

While I haven't been able to locate the actual original photo, I suspect that he has removed the jacket and is wearing just the plain black T-Shirt which others have them memed and uploaded as real.

ETA: As absolute proof that it's faked, the photo is from the set of The Expendables 3, which was released in 2014!

ETA2: Here's the original photo... https://www.slashfilm.com/patrick-hughes-the-raid-remake-update/

 

[WilliamSeger]

Sadly I believe that this is faked.

The shot is a taken from a larger one of Arnold walking beside Harrison Ford, who is wearing a green flight suit, which you can just see on the right hand side. Other versions include two different "Han shot first" mock ups, and I found a third photo of the two of them, Ford wearing the same flight suit, while Arnold has on a blue jacket over the top of a plain black T-Shirt.

While I haven't been able to locate the actual original photo, I suspect that he has removed the jacket and is wearing just the plain black T-Shirt which others have them memed and uploaded as real.

ETA: As absolute proof that it's faked, the photo is from the set of The Expendables 3, which was released in 2014!

ETA2: Here's the original photo... https://www.slashfilm.com/patrick-hughes-the-raid-remake-update/

One clue that immediately gives away most fakes with lettering: The yellow lettering is all exactly the same shade, and so is the white. That's virtually impossible in a photograph with natural lighting.

 

[Ladewig]

Nah, sure it is like Trump says about Birthright Citizenship, it would be easy to do, no neeed to worry about the Constitution. What? You mean he was lying? Who would believe it?

Well, technically, to call him a liar on this point would require showing that he knew what the truth was and that he deliberately chose to make a false statement with the intent to deceive.After all, it is possible that he is so ignorant of American civics that he believes he was telling the truth. On the other hand, one could also argue that it was less of a lie and more a matter of simply ********ting - i.e. having no respect for the truth and simply saying things with no concern for whether or not they are true.

I further suppose that it could be a strange mix of all three.