Astrology Readings.

[RoboTimbo]

A reading for Marek M from a cohort of mine.

And to show how generic these are again, I'll see how it applies to me.

your instinctive response is made with moderation, distance but in an assertive way, no impulsive reaction to wreck relations;

Yep, that's me.

in fact, if you are offended, you may not respond right away but may chew on it and plan your revenge. If needed you could be cruel and you definitelly use your sarcastic intelligence a lot;

About 85% there. Not so much with the revenge part but the rest of it is spot on. I like the sarcastic intelligence part.

you like to analise ideas, cut them to small pieces, then sort them out and won't accept anything until you feel it has been very well criticised and deeply scrutinised;

Hit.

you don't like superficiality and in spite of your want to have a flattering image you are often very hard on yourself;

Hit. Would anyone NOT want to have a flattering image of themselves?

your mental activity is so intense sometimes it turns into tension that makes your mind scattered and over solicitated; you can have ideas that seem to shock others so in order to keep being liked you stick to the conservative side you have;

Hit.

you may enjoy murder mysteries and getting the dirt on people.

1/2 point. I don't dig dirt.

you have a fear of doing things that may make you unpopular, and the chances of you smoking from a popularity and self destruction combined need are high.

Hit. I did used to smoke.

Since a child you may have appeared older or more serious; you may not be the most outgoing person all the time, and you have a lot of force of endurance and resistance; you often appear enigmatic, magnetic, and view yourself as very passionate, but not frivolous;

Direct hit.

your relation to women is respectful and in spite of your passionate nature, love seems to take much cooler stages; you like to feel you can serve the one you love; your love is generous, somewhat shy, and flare-ups do not characterise your affairs;

Too generic to judge. You're passionate but cool? Covering all the bases there, aren't you?

you like building a relationship. This makes you feel odd sometimes as you inner wishes long for fun yet intense connections, to satisfy your jealous nature but the seen connections are cooler; you may be very generous and loyal but if you break friendships your grudge can hold forever and you turn cold

Yes, except for the grudge part.

you probably have much pride to beg others and keep connections if you feel there is a practical sense to them; in mundane conversations you listen a lot but focus on saying the things to make a reputation as you are not the kind to say "I don't care what others think" at all.

Spot on.

you seem hard to understand at times, mysterious and secretive; you may chase a goal with fanatism; you should like theatrality and that may feed your ego but never quite lose grounding; you may also long to show your creative side but find you have better skill for tangible results.

Only a partial. No to feeding ego and theatricality, if that's the word that was meant. Also no to the creative side.

there is increased importance in your life concerning status and a lot of ambition, you long to shine and may occupy a position where you are in lead, are the boss.

Hit.

However this may happen in later years more; you are also a good executor and hard worker but you like being in charge and on top; through your work you gain and sustain yourself well, and do not like being dependent on others, you dislike that

Too vague. Wouldn't everyone say that was a hit?

your finances may suffer from sudden events, such an example being the time you need to help someone and your money vanish; or the need to break from routine, maybe take a trip and suddenly cease work; if your responsible nature prevents this you may show a lot of nervouseness; but soon the wheel turns; you may gain through desk work; you use modern devices a lot for paperwork

Miss.

your image of your mother is of a colder relation, one that was effective; yet she might have been a little manipulative (or manipulated); you should have a knowledge of medicines and drugs or use them more than the average person and have health/hygene concerns, and at least secretly worry about health

Total miss.

Hits - 9
Partial - 3
Miss - 2
Too vague even for astrology - 2

For it not being MY horoscope, this has been the best hit rate of any.

 

[paximperium]

You are deeply conscious of other people and the feedback they give to your behaviour and presence.

Partial hit.

You are deeply responsible and take care of others, however this can mean that often meddle too in the affairs of others becoming a control-freak.

Hit

You are very ambitious, your life revolves around success and failure first in education and later work.

Hit

Your qualifications and achievements are crucial to your self-esteem, to receive negative feedback or poor grades is particularly devastating to you.

Miss.

You are talented as a mathematician and also possess a strong artistic talent as well.

Hit

Computers seem to be particularly indicated here, you may well be or aim to become a graphics designer for computer software, unifying the computerised and the artistic. This does not rule out a separate artistic or computer related career, but it would combine both into one.

Miss

A strong interest either in law or science appears to be indicated, however this appears not to be your main ‘life-path’ which is something related to mathematics, computers or art.

Ridiculously vague-unknown.

This is a stretch but you tend to pessimism, the glass is usually half-empty. You tend to see the problems with things more readily than you accept them.

Hit

Your emotions are fickle, you do not tend to consistently feel the same way over time.

Too broad

Particularly since you are male, I would as a stretch conclude that you have difficulty sustaining a long-term relationship, since the way you feel towards any single woman will fluctuate greatly.

Miss.

You also likely have difficulty talking about your feelings.

Hit

You are prone to fight and/or argue with others, it does not take much to get you to ‘blow your fuse’ so to speak. While your demeanour is quiet and somewhat secretive most of time, you are easily provoked to anger. However, you tend to hide your anger for a long time until it suddenly explodes all at once.

Partial hit. I pick fights but am near impossible to provoke into anger.

As a stretch I would also say that a strong need for freedom is implicated also in your dealings with others which leads to rebelliousness, which is mainly expressed by voicing controversial or even offensive ideas to people.
You are a capable philosopher and have a strong imagination. This said in you those things are primarily concerned with practical things and the material world, rather than the abstract world of spiritual and metaphysical things.

Hit.

However something else appears that I cannot really make out so I’ll call it a stretch. It would appear that you face some sort of philosophical or religious crisis or a period of depression in your life. Given other indicators the latter appears most likely.

Too vague.

Hit-6
Partial-2
Miss-2
Unknown-4
I'm impressed by your ability to read me...oh wait it wasn't directed at me?

 

[Pixel42]

Because I am the Astrologer. I am the person who is engaged in such a study of human beings according to their Astrology.

Relatively speaking, I am the value neutral judge. Because I am studying people against their Astrology to determine how they do and don't fit it.

From http://www.rudolfhsmit.nl/u-case2.htm:

"Take sets of birth charts jumbled up with descriptions of their owners. Can astrologers match charts to owners? In astrology books they do it all the time. So we expect the proportion of successful matches to pile up close to 100%. To date a total of 54 studies have made this test using a total of 742 astrologers and 1407 birth charts. Despite these impressive numbers the average success rate was no different from the 50% expected by chance, see figure below. For these astrologers (many of them among the world's best) astrology performed no better than tossing a coin."

The higher the statistical element the better it is for Astrology.

You mean the easier it is to data mine the better it is for astrology.

Properly conducted statistical studies (like the time twins studies) show no significant correlations.

 

[krayon]

SlayerofCliffracers, it's been almost two weeks since I left a request for a reading in this thread. Does my low post count pose a problem?

 

[Hokulele]

Okay, it's just that I don't see what you are talking about. I see statistical studies for Astrology, human-dependant studies against Astrology and anecdotal evidence for it.

At the end of the day, Statistics trumps everything else.

I see a definate pattern to the studies which support Astrology against those that don't. They are particular TYPES of studies. The higher the human element, the worse it is for Astrology. The higher the statistical element the better it is for Astrology.

Please define "more often than chance" from a statistical perspective.

 

[six7s]

Please define "more often than chance" from a statistical perspective.

In astrology, that's easy:
Chance includes everything in the first quartile, with fire signs in the second quartile, air signs in the third, earth in the fourth and water in the fifth... but only when the sun is in Uranus

 

[Gord_in_Toronto]

In astrology, that's easy:
Chance includes everything in the first quartile, with fire signs in the second quartile, air signs in the third, earth in the fourth and water in the fifth... but only when the sun is in Uranus

I took a nap on a nude beach once. Let me tell you, you definitely don't want the sun to shine there.

 

[MarekM]

A reading for Marek M from a cohort of mine.

Awesome! Thanks! I'll give an honest review.

your instinctive response is made with moderation, distance but in an assertive way, no impulsive reaction to wreck relations;

I'd say this is a hit. I'm very reserved and don't act on impulses. Although my reactions are rarely assertive, they are distant. This kind of seems to be a catch all, but the rest works, so I'll agree with it.

in fact, if you are offended, you may not respond right away but may chew on it and plan your revenge.

This is definitely a miss. I'm very rarely offended, and if I am, I'll make it known. "Revenge" is not at all part of my character.

If needed you could be cruel and you definitelly use your sarcastic intelligence a lot;

This is a hit, but I'm not sure who couldn't be cruel if they needed to be. I am very sarcastic.

you like to analise ideas, cut them to small pieces, then sort them out and won't accept anything until you feel it has been very well criticised and deeply scrutinised;

This is correct, but it isn't really saying much given this is a skeptic's board. I would assume this would apply to nearly everyone here.

you don't like superficiality and in spite of your want to have a flattering image you are often very hard on yourself;

I'll give this a maybe. I don't much care for superficiality, yet I'm relatively easy on myself.

your mental activity is so intense sometimes it turns into tension that makes your mind scattered and over solicitated;

This is a miss. I almost never suffer from tension and my "mental activity" is not at all scattered but usually pretty well focused.

you can have ideas that seem to shock others so in order to keep being liked you stick to the conservative side you have;

This is absolutely false. If I have an idea that pertains to someone else, I rarely keep it to myself. I don't much care if my ideas shock others. Usually I don't want to be overly offensive, but I'm certainly not conservative when it comes to voicing my opinion.

you may enjoy murder mysteries and getting the dirt on people.

Not at all. In fact, murder mysteries might be my least favorite genre. Additionally, I couldn't care less about other people's business.

you have a fear of doing things that may make you unpopular, and the chances of you smoking from a popularity and self destruction combined need are high.

This is a miss. I don't much care about popularity. I do smoke, but it's because I like nicotine. It has nothing to do with popularity (I usually don't smoke around my friends) or self destruction (I'd smoke a lot more if this were the case).

Since a child you may have appeared older or more serious;

This is a maybe. I was pretty smart when I was younger, which gave the appearance of an older age, yet I've always been quite emotionally immature.

you may not be the most outgoing person all the time, and you have a lot of force of endurance and resistance;

I'd say this is pretty spot on.

you often appear enigmatic, magnetic, and view yourself as very passionate, but not frivolous;

This is too vague. I might be a little mysterious, but not so much. I don't see myself as magnetic or passionate, but I'm also not particularly frivolous. I think this line could slightly pertain to just about anyone and doesn't really say anything specific.

your relation to women is respectful and in spite of your passionate nature, love seems to take much cooler stages;

I'm not sure what is meant by "cooler stages," but I do consider myself to be respectful. The passionate part is wrong, but that was given in the last line so I'll consider this a hit.

you like to feel you can serve the one you love;

Too vague. This applies to everyone.

your love is generous, somewhat shy, and flare-ups do not characterise your affairs;

I'll call this a miss and a hit, because I'm usually quite selfish when it comes to relationships, but I am a bit shy and flare-ups are rare.

you like building a relationship. This makes you feel odd sometimes as you inner wishes long for fun yet intense connections, to satisfy your jealous nature but the seen connections are cooler;

Miss. I don't have a jealous nature, and I don't really have an inner longing for fun, whimsical relationships.

you may be very generous and loyal but if you break friendships your grudge can hold forever and you turn cold

Miss. I'm not particularly generous to my friends. I'm pretty loyal, but I rarely, if ever, hold grudges.

you probably have much pride to beg others and keep connections if you feel there is a practical sense to them;

Hit, but how many people don't have too much pride to beg others??

in mundane conversations you listen a lot but focus on saying the things to make a reputation as you are not the kind to say "I don't care what others think" at all.

Miss. There are many people that I really couldn't care less about what they have to say. I'm also open about making this clear. And I have difficulty listening in conversations that don't particularly interest me.

you seem hard to understand at times, mysterious and secretive;

Not so much secretive, but I'll give this a hit. Some of my views are difficult for others to understand.

you may chase a goal with fanatism;

Nope. Not at all.

you should like theatrality and that may feed your ego but never quite lose grounding;

I'm not sure what this is saying. If it's saying that I like to be theatrical, then it is definitely a miss.

you may also long to show your creative side but find you have better skill for tangible results.

This is a maybe. I do like to show my creative side, but I don't ignore it to pursue more tangible results. I'm constantly using my creativity all the time.

there is increased importance in your life concerning status and a lot of ambition, you long to shine and may occupy a position where you are in lead, are the boss.

I'll give this a hit. I am somewhat concerned with status, though I do lack ambition (something that I am concerned about). I don't know if I'll occupy a position as a leader.

However this may happen in later years more; you are also a good executor and hard worker but you like being in charge and on top;

This is a hit. I do like to boss people around.

through your work you gain and sustain yourself well, and do not like being dependent on others, you dislike that

This is a miss. I don't have a job right now and I don't mind depending on my family if they are willing to help out.

your finances may suffer from sudden events, such an example being the time you need to help someone and your money vanish; or the need to break from routine, maybe take a trip and suddenly cease work;

I'm not sure if this is predicting future events or what, but if not, it is a miss. I've never had money vanish, nor have I taken any unexpected trips.

if your responsible nature prevents this you may show a lot of nervouseness; but soon the wheel turns; you may gain through desk work;

This doesn't make any sense to me.

you use modern devices a lot for paperwork

I don't have a lot of paperwork, but I do try to avoid electronic filing, bills, etc. So this is a miss.

your image of your mother is of a colder relation, one that was effective; yet she might have been a little manipulative (or manipulated);

A lot of options here, but they are all misses. I have a very close relationship with my mother and she was never manipulative nor manipulated as far as I know.

you should have a knowledge of medicines and drugs or use them more than the average person and have health/hygene concerns, and at least secretly worry about health

This is overall a miss. No health/hygiene concerns. I don't secretly worry about my health at all. The only pill I take is a daily vitamin.


Overview:
Hits: 10
Misses: 16
Maybe/Too Vague: 6

Overall, this wasn't particularly accurate. Many of the hits were so vague or common that just about anyone would agree that they somewhat apply to them. I didn't see anything that was shockingly accurate and many of the assertions were flat-out wrong.

Let's see if yours is better....

 

[MarekM]

Marak M's reading from me.

To MarekM (or whoever else it may be).

Thanks again! And it is me. I'll give an honest review.

You are deeply conscious of other people and the feedback they give to your behaviour and presence.

This is a miss. I don't much care what others think. I also don't really pay more attention to feedback than your average person. I assume everyone is somewhat aware of what's going on around them.

You are deeply responsible and take care of others, however this can mean that often meddle too in the affairs of others becoming a control-freak.

This is very much the opposite of my typical behavior.

You are very ambitious, your life revolves around success and failure first in education and later work.

This is both a hit and a miss. I'm not ambitious, but my main concerns are work and school.

Your qualifications and achievements are crucial to your self-esteem, to receive negative feedback or poor grades is particularly devastating to you.

This is a hit. I do care a lot about my success in education.

You are talented as a mathematician and also possess a strong artistic talent as well.

I'm not sure where to go with this one. I'm probably better at math than most, but I'm certainly not a talented mathematician. I'm interested in art, but I have no background in it, so I can't say that I'm particularly talented.

Computers seem to be particularly indicated here, you may well be or aim to become a graphics designer for computer software, unifying the computerised and the artistic. This does not rule out a separate artistic or computer related career, but it would combine both into one.

This is a miss. I have not desire to pursue a career in graphic design. A good friend of mine is a graphic designer though. Does that count?

A strong interest either in law or science appears to be indicated, however this appears not to be your main ‘life-path’ which is something related to mathematics, computers or art.

This is a hit and a miss. I'm currently attending law school, so law is definitely an interest, but it is also my main 'life-path.'

This is a stretch but you tend to pessimism, the glass is usually half-empty.

This is a miss. I consider myself to be quite optimistic.

You tend to see the problems with things more readily than you accept them.

This is true.

Your emotions are fickle, you do not tend to consistently feel the same way over time.

This is wrong. My emotions are quite consisted and don't really fluctuate much over time.

Particularly since you are male, I would as a stretch conclude that you have difficulty sustaining a long-term relationship, since the way you feel towards any single woman will fluctuate greatly.

This is wrong. My interests in women are very consistent and the only relationships I've been in have been long-term.

You also likely have difficulty talking about your feelings.

Hit.

You are prone to fight and/or argue with others, it does not take much to get you to ‘blow your fuse’ so to speak. While your demeanour is quiet and somewhat secretive most of time, you are easily provoked to anger. However, you tend to hide your anger for a long time until it suddenly explodes all at once.

This is wayyyy off. I'm incredibly laid-back.

As a stretch I would also say that a strong need for freedom is implicated also in your dealings with others which leads to rebelliousness, which is mainly expressed by voicing controversial or even offensive ideas to people.

I'll give this a hit, because I do like to bring up controversial issues. I don't think it has anything to do with a need for freedom or rebelliousness.

You are a capable philosopher and have a strong imagination. This said in you those things are primarily concerned with practical things and the material world, rather than the abstract world of spiritual and metaphysical things.

Hit, but this is a skeptics forum.

However something else appears that I cannot really make out so I’ll call it a stretch. It would appear that you face some sort of philosophical or religious crisis or a period of depression in your life. Given other indicators the latter appears most likely.

I've certainly never had any crisis in any real sense of the word. I did recently struggle with a relationship, but to classify that as a period of depression might be a bit of a stretch. I'll give is a maybe.

Overview:
Hits: 7
Misses: 9
Maybes: 2

Again, not incredibly accurate. This was more detailed and less vague than your cohorts reading. There were a couple of specific things you got, such as my interest in law. But you were way off on a couple other areas, such as graphic design and my temper.

I am wondering if you gained anything from looking at my previous posts. Obviously I've given away a lot about myself on this forum and it would make a reading a lot easier.

Thanks for the reading!

 

[SlayerofCliffracers]

Thanks again! And it is me. I'll give an honest review.

I put that in just in case I'm being Postdicted.

This is a miss. I don't much care what others think. I also don't really pay more attention to feedback than your average person. I assume everyone is somewhat aware of what's going on around them.

You don't much care what others think? That you could be your Uranus square Venus. Ah I never join up the dots.

But the fact you assume that everyone is aware of what's going on around them sounds promising. Every sign tends to see it's own motives as universal.

This is very much the opposite of my typical behavior.

So you are somewhat reclusive then? That is Scorpio Ascendant trait maybe.

This is both a hit and a miss. I'm not ambitious, but my main concerns are work and school.

I guess that Saturn square would make you less ambitious than you would otherwise be.

This is a hit. I do care a lot about my success in education.

I am glad the 'core' of the chart holds up anyway.

I'm not sure where to go with this one. I'm probably better at math than most, but I'm certainly not a talented mathematician. I'm interested in art, but I have no background in it, so I can't say that I'm particularly talented.

I would take that as a hit, simply because I think it is Saturn-Square that is doing the speaking there. I reckon you are underestimating yourself.

The 10th House most definately covers interests, not just career. That you say you are interested in art despite having no background suggests that the Astrology stands. I deserve another hit I reckon.

The Astrological definition of 'career' also includes hobbies, special interests etc. While to the reader, these things are differentiated, Astrology itself draws little destinction.

This is a miss. I have not desire to pursue a career in graphic design. A good friend of mine is a graphic designer though. Does that count?

I never predicted that you would become a graphics designer. I simply said that it would combine the two indicators in your chart, Art and Mathematics/Computing together.

While art isn't a long stretch, computing however is. The reason that Mercury 'rules' both writing and mathematics. One has to make 3 stretches.

Mercury.
Mathematics.
Computer programming.
Graphics Design.

This is a hit and a miss. I'm currently attending law school, so law is definitely an interest, but it is also my main 'life-path.'

Oh why didn't I spot that! Your MC is squared by Saturn. I already made a prediction based upon a MC square before on this thread and yet I missed yours.

This is a miss. I consider myself to be quite optimistic.

You would rarely admit any character flaw to another. You are a Leo Sun.

This is true.

That's what I mean by 'pessimistic'.

This is wrong. My emotions are quite consisted and don't really fluctuate much over time.

My cohort is right!

This is wrong. My interests in women are very consistent and the only relationships I've been in have been long-term.

I said it was a stretch.

Hit.

Happy.

This is wayyyy off. I'm incredibly laid-back.

Are you interested in sports a lot then?

I'll give this a hit, because I do like to bring up controversial issues. I don't think it has anything to do with a need for freedom or rebelliousness.

You might not consciously recognise it.

Hit, but this is a skeptics forum.

And the Skeptics in the Skeptics forum tend to have something Astrological to explain why they are here. However I tried my best to keep it as neutral as possible.

I've certainly never had any crisis in any real sense of the word. I did recently struggle with a relationship, but to classify that as a period of depression might be a bit of a stretch. I'll give is a maybe.

Regardless that wasn't quite what I was thinking about there but I am still glad I didn't get a miss.

[QUOTE
Overview:
Hits: 7
Misses: 9
Maybes: 2

Again, not incredibly accurate. This was more detailed and less vague than your cohorts reading. There were a couple of specific things you got, such as my interest in law. But you were way off on a couple other areas, such as graphic design and my temper.

I am wondering if you gained anything from looking at my previous posts. Obviously I've given away a lot about myself on this forum and it would make a reading a lot easier.

Thanks for the reading![/QUOTE]

I gained nothing whatsoever from reading your posts. Everything I wrote, right or wrong was Astrologically derived.

You were a complete stranger pretty much. The only thing I knew about you was honestly your astrological information.

Yes my cohorts reading is vague. My cohort suffers from the opposite shortcomings than I do.

My tendancy is to make sweeping predictions from a single factor in a chart without taking into account the rest of the chart. For instance I got a miss because I failed to alter my reading of the 'Leo Sun' in order to take into account actually 2 other factors with opposite meanings.

My cohort is brilliant at taking more than one factor into account and weaving them all together. However she tends to consequently make her readings vaguer.

Our Astrological 'methods' and our blindspots are rather opposite.

 

[six7s]

Our Astrological 'methods' and our blindspots are rather opposite.

You're a graduate of the Robert the Bruce School of Arachnid Astrology?

 

[Gord_in_Toronto]

You're a graduate of the Robert the Bruce School of Arachnid Astrology?

Why the mockery?

I found this to be pretty accurate for me:

You have a need for other people to like and admire you, and yet you tend to be critical of yourself. While you have some personality weaknesses you are generally able to compensate for them. You have considerable unused capacity that you have not turned to your advantage. Disciplined and self-controlled on the outside, you tend to be worrisome and insecure on the inside. At times you have serious doubts as to whether you have made the right decision or done the right thing. You prefer a certain amount of change and variety and become dissatisfied when hemmed in by restrictions and limitations. You also pride yourself as an independent thinker; and do not accept others' statements without satisfactory proof. But you have found it unwise to be too frank in revealing yourself to others. At times you are extroverted, affable, and sociable, while at other times you are introverted, wary, and reserved. Some of your aspirations tend to be rather unrealistic.

The generic cold read from:
http://positron3.aps.org/units/fed/newsletters/spring2002/pdf/hall.pdf

 

[RoboTimbo]

Why the mockery?

I found this to be pretty accurate for me:

The generic cold read from:
http://positron3.aps.org/units/fed/newsletters/spring2002/pdf/hall.pdf

At one time you were shorter than you are now. If you live long enough you will be shorter again. As you've grown, you've become less dependant on parental figures. You have hidden depths and aspects of your personality that you choose to keep to yourself. You can be intimate with those close to you but be aloof with some strangers. You live in Canada.

How did I do?

 

[six7s]

At one time you were shorter than you are now. If you live long enough you will be shorter again. As you've grown, you've become less dependant on parental figures. You have hidden depths and aspects of your personality that you choose to keep to yourself. You can be intimate with those close to you but be aloof with some strangers. You live in Canada.

How did I do?

You have a computer connected to teh interwebs





How did I do?

 

[RoboTimbo]

You have a computer connected to teh interwebs


How did I do?

Now that's just spooky.

 

[Gord_in_Toronto]

Now that's just spooky.

Spooky for sure. 10,000,000,000 persons in the World. Only 10,000,000 on the InterTubes. Once chance in a thousand. I'm almost a believer.

 

[The Master Cat]

This is a stretch, but I'm guessing that all of you ate something that you didn't quite enjoy sometime after your 18th birthday.

This is also a stretch, but your mothers enjoy aerobics on Tuesday afternoons.

 

[six7s]

This is a stretch, but I'm guessing that all of you ate something that you didn't quite enjoy sometime after your 18th birthday.

A definite hit

How did you know?

This is also a stretch, but your mothers enjoy aerobics on Tuesday afternoons.

A miss, I'm afraid

I only have one mother

 

[Klimax]

A definite hit

How did you know?

A miss, I'm afraid

I only have one mother

My turn:
You have core2 duo as CPU in computer.

 

[dafydd]

If you are unable to accept the explanation then there is nothing that can be done. You complain about not getting an explanation and when I give you an explanation you complain.

You evidently want an explanation on your own terms. But you aren't getting any since on your terms there is no explanation possible.
You do not give me explanations,only descriptions.