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Astrology is a science

rjh01

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The Bombay High Court has ruled that Astrology is a science. So how about you guys start taking it seriously? What are the consequences of this ruling?


The judgment will be met with relief in India, where engagements are decided, wedding and election dates are chosen on the basis of detailed charts drawn up by revered astrologers. A day deemed "auspicious" by an astrologer can lead to thousands of weddings and traffic gridlock.
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Source http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/india/8303462/Astrology-is-a-science-court-rules.html


Other links on the subject
http://richarddawkins.net/articles/587946-astrology-is-a-science-bombay-high-court
http://jonathanturley.org/2011/02/04/court-astrology-is-a-science/

At least we can know for certain the people trying to get creationism taught as science in our schools have equally wacky friends around the globe.
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http://slashdot.org/slashdot-it.pl?op=discuss&id=1979262&smallembed=1

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Astrology-is-a-science-Bombay-HC/articleshow/7418795.cms
http://www.exbii.com/showthread.php?p=25729828
 
I don't think the ruling really matters that much. I mean astrology is so entrenched in Indian society, that if you want to remove it, you're basically removing years of culture. In the long run, astrology is bound to go out of date, as many people let go of their traditional values.
 
Reality is subject to popular opinion/desires/wishes is it? Take all the believers of the primary belief in India and the approximately billion muslims and billon christians etc etc and realise that what ever the truth, a minimum of 2 billion+ people are completely wrong about their basic beliefs that they take for granted is true. Some governments jail you for denying the existance of Allah - are their high courts correct?
 
rjh01 said:
The Bombay High Court has ruled that Astrology is a science. So how about you guys start taking it seriously? What are the consequences of this ruling?
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Will it affect customer service responses when my call is routed to India?

:D
 
Gytu said:
I don't think the ruling really matters that much. I mean astrology is so entrenched in Indian society, that if you want to remove it, you're basically removing years of culture. In the long run, astrology is bound to go out of date, as many people let go of their traditional values.
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Are you defining the long run as tens of years, hundreds of years, or thousands of years?
 
Gytu said:
I don't think the ruling really matters that much. I mean astrology is so entrenched in Indian society, that if you want to remove it, you're basically removing years of culture. In the long run, astrology is bound to go out of date, as many people let go of their traditional values.
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Sure, just like in the US, where no papers publish horoscopes any more and fortune tellers populate the unemployment lines.
 
So ... a bunch of old third-world men with no scientific training get to decide what is real and what isn't?
 
According to a 1997 study by Life magazine, 48% of Americans believe astrology is valid. I can't post URLs yet but if you Google "astrology believe percentage" it's in an Astrology FAQ on about com.
 
dbnp48 said:
According to a 1997 study by Life magazine, 48% of Americans believe astrology is valid. I can't post URLs yet but if you Google "astrology believe percentage" it's in an Astrology FAQ on about com.
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A full 49% of Americans are below average.

True story.
 
As I recall, the Vatican once effectively legislated that the earth is the center of the universe. How's that working out?
 
1757: During the papacy of Benedict XIV, the Congregation of the Index decides to withdraw the decree which prohibited all books teaching the earth's motion, although the Dialogue and a few other books continue to be explicitly included.

1758: The Catholic Church dropped the general prohibition of books advocating heliocentrism from the Index of Forbidden Books.

1820: The Congregation of the Holy Office, with the pope's approval, decrees that Catholic astronomer Joseph Settele can be allowed to treat the earth's motion as an established fact.

1822: The Congregation of the Holy Office decides to allow in general the publication of books treating of the earth's motion in accordance with modern astronomy...

1822: ... Pope Pius VII ratifies this decision.

1935: The Catholic Index of Prohibited Books for the first time omits the Dialogue from the list (Looks like your information is at least 76 years out-of-date).

1921: In a papal encyclical, Pope Benedict XV stated that, "though this earth on which we live may not be the centre of the universe as at one time was thought, it was the scene of the original happiness of our first ancestors, witness of their unhappy fall, as too of the Redemption of mankind through the Passion and Death of Jesus Christ."

1965: The Second Vatican Council stated that, "Consequently, we cannot but deplore certain habits of mind, which are sometimes found too among Christians, which do not sufficiently attend to the rightful independence of science and which, from the arguments and controversies they spark, lead many minds to conclude that faith and science are mutually opposed."

1992: Pope John Paul II addressed the Pontifical Academy of Sciences, expressing regret for the treatment which Galileo received.

In other news, Pilatre De Rozier launches the first hot-air balloon, the Wright brothers undertake the first powered flight, and Neil Armstrong is the first man to walk on the Earth's moon...

... and science marches on...
 
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Stray Cat said:
I look forward to seeing the falsifiable experiments that this new science will no doubt bring about...
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Who needs experiments when it has already been 'proven' in court?

A dark day for both Justice and Science...
 
Yes, but think about the peer reviewed papers astrologers will now be able to publish :D
 
Emet said:
Will it affect customer service responses when my call is routed to India?

:D
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Yes. Your chances of getting a result with your problem when you call BT will be improved if Mercury is in an auspicious position in your chart that day. Or in BT's chart. Or something. :boggled:
 
What a joke the Indian judiciary must be to think they can decide a scientific point in a court of law.
 
The part that I find frightning is the last quote in the op.
After all, wasn't a big part of the case of creationism in court was that if that goes by, they would have to teach astrology alongside astronomy?

I mean if astrology suddenly becomes "aceepted", who knows of the IDiots would try to get that dead horse back in the race.
 
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